Welcome Welcome to Hawthorn : Calsher Dear! Rising star nom!

[I got the outside word]

outside of Brisbane (H), they haven't played a side higher than 15th

And the highest positioned team Box Hill have played is North, who were undefeated. Still early in the season but perhaps their VFL team is better performing than their AFL team and Gran just isn’t as good as you think.

 

[MrPremiership]

And the highest positioned team Box Hill have played is North, who were undefeated. Still early in the season but perhaps their VFL team is better performing than their AFL team and Gran just isn’t as good as you think.

Further reason why i'm not putting too much stock into what Calsher is doing yet.

Gran may be a list clogger, but she's all heart

 

[HedgeFund]

I know we're all looking desperately for a saviour, or at least a beacon of hope, but it's too early.

He won't be the saviour, but he certainly can be a great hope (and restore balance to the force) while developing at Box Hill.

 

[I got the outside word]

Further reason why i'm not putting too much stock into what Calsher is doing yet.

Gran may be a list clogger, but she's all heart

Calsher was spoken about being lucky to get a rookie spot after missing two years (?) and has come in as an 18 (?) year old against men and shown some very good ability on the field across more than just being a KPP. Stock certainly deserves to be put into what he has done and shown so far. I don’t think he should be debuting in the seniors anytime soon but all factors considered I am all future Calsher stock, filling up on it. Steal of the draft incoming.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Calsher Dear (Four goals, 15 disposals, six hit-outs, six inside 50s, five marks) ​

“Calsh took another step forward in the right direction. We need to be patient with Calsher. We know improvement’s not linear, it’s going to go up and down and we’re going to have to ride the waves of momentum. His contested marking and his ability to get up the ground and spend some time in the ruck were really pleasing. As a key forward, that’s a great return. He’s continually working on his contest stuff, he’s got to be stronger in those contests and not just get shoved off the line of the ball and get outmarked, so he’s working on those areas of his game. What we’re seeing with Calsher is really pleasing.”

 

[The Chad and I]

Calsher Dear (Four goals, 15 disposals, six hit-outs, six inside 50s, five marks) ​

“Calsh took another step forward in the right direction. We need to be patient with Calsher. We know improvement’s not linear, it’s going to go up and down and we’re going to have to ride the waves of momentum. His contested marking and his ability to get up the ground and spend some time in the ruck were really pleasing. As a key forward, that’s a great return. He’s continually working on his contest stuff, he’s got to be stronger in those contests and not just get shoved off the line of the ball and get outmarked, so he’s working on those areas of his game. What we’re seeing with Calsher is really pleasing.”

You have convinced me - bring him in NOW!

 

[Roger Rogerson]

I wouldn't be putting much stock in his performance against North's VFL team.

My gran would have kicked 4 against them, and she doesn't have any legs

How big are her hands?

 

[Goatie]

I wouldn't be putting much stock in his performance against North's VFL team.

My gran would have kicked 4 against them, and she doesn't have any legs

I think everyone is excited that he is showing qualities that will translate to the AFL considering he was a speculative pick. He has been doing this all year.

I never got excited when Emerson Jeka was kicking bags in the VFL because he was taking all his marks on the lead when our Box Hill listed players were dominating kids in the midfield. No contested marks, no second efforts, no ground ball, no pressure acts or pinch hitting in the ruck.

I’m not worried if he doesn’t play this year. If Calsher can build his tank over the next few years he will be serious player.

 

[The Chad and I]

I think everyone is excited that he is showing qualities that will translate to the AFL considering he was speculative pick. He has been doing this all year.

I never got excited when Emerson Jeka was kicking bags in the VFL because he was taking all his marks on the lead when our Box Hill listed players were dominating kids in the midfield. No contested marks, no second efforts, no ground ball, no pressure acts or pinch hitting in the ruck.

I’m not worried if he doesn’t play this year. If Calsher can build his tank over the next few years he will be serious player.

Nobody thinks he's coming in to dominate a game or that he's anywhere near a complete player.
Not ever Roughy and Buddy were expected to do that and neither were "complete" even by the end of their careers.

The whole effort to make those who of us who are enthused to sound like so much more than that is a bizarre form of gatekeeping, only to make themselves feel like the adults in the room.

Yeah guys, we know.
Dear has a long way to go.

 

[The German Hunter]

Lieutenant Gran has opted to become a shrimp boat captain and not a footballer.

 

[The Seaword]

I don't think many talls have the tank coming into their first season, and Calsher did say himself during an early interview that he wasn't aware of what it took to reach the fitness level required to play AFL. His tank is going to get bigger as the year progresses too, though he's probably going to need a break at some point if he's taking a full week to recover from games.

I'd still wager we see him this year if the performances keep stacking up. Maybe it's late like you say.

But we are a bottom side. It's not likely we'll have a great number of games that allow us to pick and choose who he comes in against if he continues this form or gets better.

Still have to be careful who you play him against, I’m not a cross every defender in the league but you don’t want him being frozen out of a game due to good systems or good backmen. Would rather him get a taste against an opponent that will allow him to take marks and kick a goal or 2 to give him the confidence he belongs

 

[play2win]

The lad has sticky fingers and I love his pack marking, great to see as we need stronger aerial presence

 

[mustang]

Hopefully we can get a Second Fwd to partner Dear it could be McCabe if not hopefully there is a Fwd in the draft for us.

 

[peetoo]

Anyone for light hearted speculation? For mine it’s v adelaide at MCG June 1st debut.

Based on nothing but it’s our only home game at MCG in two months

 

[peetoo]

Hopefully we can get a Second Fwd to partner Dear it could be McCabe if not hopefully there is a Fwd in the draft for us.

Hold my Guinness

 

[tommyk72]

Anyone for light hearted speculation? For mine it’s v adelaide at MCG June 1st debut.

Based on nothing but it’s our only home game at MCG in two months

And that it's Adelaide.

 

[suburb whispers]

Anyone for light hearted speculation? For mine it’s v adelaide at MCG June 1st debut.

Based on nothing but it’s our only home game at MCG in two months

The club have always loved a UTAS stadium debut… Remarkable when you look into it.

 

[TassieGrown]

Anyone for light hearted speculation? For mine it’s v adelaide at MCG June 1st debut.

Based on nothing but it’s our only home game at MCG in two months

Great idea, I will play.

Round 24 against the beggars

 

[matey]

During the first preseason intra club practise game I think it was Dear didn’t play was just doing repeat long runs along the boundary line. Obviously the coaches were working on his fitness. This was a few months ago now ……. at the end of the day only the coaches know whether he is ready to debut or not but he looks like a determined young man.

 

[Charchi]

I’m happy to wait until he is ready, but gee, I’m looking forward to him debuting, Beaumaris will be a ghost town that day. Punka was great person and a good, honest footballer in a team of stars.

 

[extractasam]

Gee he’s out some noticeable size on since he got to the club.

Looks like he’s got the Charlie curnow

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Charlie Curnow

Age

27

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

9.7

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

type of build.

Happy for him to play box hill tbh not against it at all, but a small part of me says we used to bring Kosi in off far less impressive games than what Calsher has put up so far. Kosi barely could kick goals at VFL level.

 

[kazzooka]

I’m happy to wait until he is ready, but gee, I’m looking forward to him debuting, Beaumaris will be a ghost town that day. Punka was great person and a good, honest footballer in a team of stars.

Pretty amazing that we have 3 Beaumaris players on the list now. Hopefully they can all play together at some stage this year before Gunners retires.

 

[rei154]

Gee he’s out some noticeable size on since he got to the club.

Looks like he’s got the Charlie curnow type of build.

Happy for him to play box hill tbh not against it at all, but a small part of me says we used to bring Kosi in off far less impressive games than what Calsher has put up so far. Kosi barely could kick goals at VFL level.

Genuinely reckon one of the benefits of bringing Chol and Gunston across is that we can afford to take more time before blooding someone like Calsher.

I don't mind us keeping him and McCabe hidden until next season- especially if Calsh's form keeps up and McCabe has a solid back end of this season.

 

[HedgeFund]

Genuinely reckon one of the benefits of bringing Chol and Gunston across is that we can afford to take more time before blooding someone like Calsher.

I don't mind us keeping him and McCabe hidden until next season- especially if Calsh's form keeps up and McCabe has a solid back end of this season.

Completely agree.

We now live in an age of instant gratification.

However the best clubs are willing (and usually able) to let their new kids develop in the state league until they are physically ready and knocking down the door with consistent dominant displays at that level.

It’s still the way to go IMHO, and as long as injuries aren’t horrific (meaning the other options dry up), we shouldn’t plug under developed kids into our AFL side just because the club isn’t winning lots of games.

 

[SSSSSS]

He will get his debut this year.

Another great outing minus conversion. Such a presence in the air and does the dirty things defensively.

Could be a Mihocek type.