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Not trying to put unfair expectations on Calsher - but Buddy’s first season yielded 21 goals from 20 games. Calsher is now at 19 goals from 14 games - it’s very bloody exciting.
Remember Mark Williams kicked 63 goals in Buddy’s first season.

Dixon had 27, then Buddy 21, and Everitt 17 (Roughy only 6 as he played in defence a fair bit).

Only 4 players kicked more than 14 goals all year.

This year we have 8 players who have done that. A much deeper and more even spread of contributors.

Very different forward line for sure.
 
Oh dear.
I was castigated early on in the Wizard thread for suggesting the possibility of better than Cyril.

But better than Buddy... oh mai!

Being better than Buddy in his first year is not the same as being better than Buddy at the end of his career. There's a qualifier there that you're ignoring (first year).

I hope he is. Buddy was a freak though, and he didn't really get going for a couple of years.

Nobody has said that they are the same type of player, with the same electric speed, ability to do the same freakish things, or talent to kick as many goals over the career that Bud had .
 
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Please don’t compare Calsher to Buddy. That is ridiculous. Very different players. Calsher has done brilliantly at playing his role and he will improve no doubt, but more like a crashing CHF with great defensive pressure that helps those around him. Buddy grew up in very different structure and has very different skills. For instance he was not great overhead while Calsher shows huge promise there… however Calsher will never run the boundary with 5 bounces and kick a goal .
 
Please don’t compare Calsher to Buddy. That is ridiculous. Very different players. Calsher has done brilliantly at playing his role and he will improve no doubt, but more like a crashing CHF with great defensive pressure that helps those around him. Buddy grew up in very different structure and has very different skills. For instance he was not great overhead while Calsher shows huge promise there… however Calsher will never run the boundary with 5 bounces and kick a goal .


Nobody has said that Calsher is better than Buddy, or that he plays the same way.

Go back and read this whole thread, not one person has even suggested it.

Better and more impactful as part of the team in his first year, yes.

Better than one of the all time greats over the career that Bud had?

No-one is that dumb.
 
Nobody has said that Calsher is better than Buddy, or that he plays the same way.

Go back and read this whole thread, not one person has even suggested it.

Better and more impactful as part of the team in his first year, yes.

Better than one of the all time greats over the career that Bud had?

No-one is that dumb.

He won't be bigger than Buddy

But he'll be the best Calsher in existence. And he'll inspire Hawthorn fans to name their children after him

BOOM
 
Oh dear.
I was castigated early on in the Wizard thread for suggesting the possibility of better than Cyril.

But better than Buddy... oh mai!
This is pretty plainly different to the comparisons between Wiz and Cyril that were made in that thread. Particularly if you're saying that "Could easily be better than Cyril" is just a mere suggestion of a possibility.

One is suggesting that Wiz could easily be better than Cyril, can do things he can't do. This is just stating the objective truth that Calsher is having a better first season on measures for a key forward. He averages more goals, more contested marks and more marks inside 50 despite averaging 65% TOG to Buddy's 80%.

You need to forget about all of the amazing footy Bud played post Year 1, and remember in that first year there would be almost no one - credible at least - that would have predicted Bud having the career that he did. Kepler Bradley recieved more Rising Star votes.
 

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Tough day today for key forwards today (ask Larkey) but what I loved was that he just persisted all day and ends up with a couple. He is extremely agile for a tall bloke on the ground which keeps him in the game no matter the conditions. As many have said, this kid has the potential to be a superstar!
 
Tough day today for key forwards today (ask Larkey) but what I loved was that he just persisted all day and ends up with a couple. He is extremely agile for a tall bloke on the ground which keeps him in the game no matter the conditions. As many have said, this kid has the potential to be a superstar!
As with all his other games. So many deft contests, tap ons and such. More score involvements than disposals, can't imagine that has happened too many times.

An absolute keeper.
 
Copped a big (accidental) shoulder late in the game, was very clearly groggy afterwards.

Was surprised nothing was said - the camera was damning, showing his vacant stare. The ball nearly hit him in the next contest, and he barely reacted.
Saw it live and thought he was concussed. Surprised there has been nothing made of it.

Lucky there is a week off
 

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