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Think we were reluctant to play 2 rucks with 4 on the bench, the best mix being a number 1 who plays 70% and a fwd/ruck to give chop out. Problem for us was Ned struggled to play the 70% due to fitness & dodgy shoulder.

If the afl moves to 5 on the bench, think most teams who don’t have a quality fwd/ruck option (us) will play 2 genuine rucks.

Think Ned can give some shock value up fwd but it’s probably more floating fwd rather than starting there or catching opposition off guard.
Reluctant? We were lucky to have a single fit ruck available for selection last season. I'm sure we'd have played a ruck + ruck/fwd setup with a bit more luck with injury.
 
I’m in the glass half full camp on rucks.

If Reeves keeps developing the way he has and Meek can use his size and strength we’ll have one of the best ruck divisions in the comp in a couple of years.

Fingers crossed Lynch just had a very very unlucky year, and Ramsden(sp?) looks to have potential. Looking forward to watching them develop
 

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Think we were reluctant to play 2 rucks with 4 on the bench, the best mix being a number 1 who plays 70% and a fwd/ruck to give chop out. Problem for us was Ned struggled to play the 70% due to fitness & dodgy shoulder.

If the afl moves to 5 on the bench, think most teams who don’t have a quality fwd/ruck option (us) will play 2 genuine rucks.

Think Ned can give some shock value up fwd but it’s probably more floating fwd rather than starting there or catching opposition off guard.
We were reluctant to play 2 rucks cause they were injured all the time.
 
Is anyone else stupidly optimistic about our current ruck group? I'm thinking our first pairing of Reeves and Meek can rival Melbourne's and Freo's in the coming years.
I mean one can dream. Melbournes ruck pairing in 2023 is pretty close to West Coasts pairing of Nic Nat and Cox.

I’d love for Meek and Reeves to become that good.

Freo is an interesting case because Darcy and Jackson should compliment each other but we will have to see how it goes.

We have the potential to be in the top handful of ruck pairings in 2025 onwards. Up to our boys to live up to the potential.
 
Certainly keen to see how they compliment each other and structure up / gel together.

Reeves with the unusual height, Meek seemingly with the physically more developed body.

Hopefully they and the mid cohort get plenty of time to work as a group and can stay on the park next year.
 
We have the potential to be in the top handful of ruck pairings in 2025 onwards. Up to our boys to live up to the potential.
Agreed. In 2025 the ruck division may be a strength.

At the moment they have a total of 42 games between them across a collective 17.5 seasons (380 games) in the competition……and a lot of room for improvement. 😉
 
wtf is that?


EDIT: Google tells me it's a character from one of the 87 Marvel films released last year.
Pretending Season 5 GIF by The Simpsons

Getting a bit on in the years are we, Eldo?
 

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Meek 203cm and 110 kg and Reeves 2.11 and 105kgs can match it with the mature bodied Rucks.

Lynch needs another 10kg, Hes only 98kg

Max Ramsden needs to put on 20kg. He’s only 86kg.

Gawn, NicNat, Darcy, are 110kg+ and use their weight to advantage.
 

He and Reeves look absolutely primed to have breakout seasons next year.

McEvoy and Hale were a great duo but I never felt their ruck work was anything special. It was their around the grounds work and forward craft that made them dangerous. Reeves and Meek on the other hand are built like brick shithouses and look like they have the potential to be dominant stoppage rucks - and still capable of being influential outside of stoppages.

It's very exciting because ruck dominance could completely transform the side. Providing first use to our midfield instead of them running around trying to win it back all the time. That first use then has the benefit of meaning the backline aren't under as much pressure from the opposition midfield, and the forwards would get better and more frequent delivery inside 50.

Can already picture round 1, first centre bounce. Meek clean tap down to the advantage of Stephens who bursts away and after a couple steps drives it long to the goal square where Reeves stands tall and takes the most uncontested contested mark.
 
He and Reeves look absolutely primed to have breakout seasons next year.

McEvoy and Hale were a great duo but I never felt their ruck work was anything special. It was their around the grounds work and forward craft that made them dangerous. Reeves and Meek on the other hand are built like brick shithouses and look like they have the potential to be dominant stoppage rucks - and still capable of being influential outside of stoppages.

It's very exciting because ruck dominance could completely transform the side. Providing first use to our midfield instead of them running around trying to win it back all the time. That first use then has the benefit of meaning the backline aren't under as much pressure from the opposition midfield, and the forwards would get better and more frequent delivery inside 50.

Can already picture round 1, first centre bounce. Meek clean tap down to the advantage of Stephens who bursts away and after a couple steps drives it long to the goal square where Reeves stands tall and takes the most uncontested contested mark.
This may sound like a strange question but what year in the future are you writing from?
 
The best thing about Reeves is that he's shown a bit playing deep forward, something that plenty of his peers have yet to do. I think a forward line of Lewis, Reeves and a bunch of swarming short people with Meek as the no.1 ruck will be formidable

*Edit my non pc description got changed to short people by the filter haha fair play
 
You’d think Mitch Lewis will benefit from opposition not being sure who to put their tallest defender on when either Meek or Reeves rest forward.
I think after what he's shown this year teams will still prioritise stopping Lewis next year. The resting ruck up forward will probably just be a headache match up that the opposition will need to respect if they prove dangerous. It's that additional tall forward whether it be Kosi/Jeka/Ramsden/Serong/etc that could threaten to get off the leash.
 
I think after what he's shown this year teams will still prioritise stopping Lewis next year. The resting ruck up forward will probably just be a headache match up that the opposition will need to respect if they prove dangerous. It's that additional tall forward whether it be Kosi/Jeka/Ramsden/Serong/etc that could threaten to get off the leash.
Or Greene!
 

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