Dewnior
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primary goal isn't to win games?
these are very driven ppl wanting to play & win.
The primary goal is to win premierships.
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primary goal isn't to win games?
these are very driven ppl wanting to play & win.
Yes and to do that u must win gamesThe primary goal is to win premierships.
Not this year. Getting games and development into our squad is more important. The wins will come.Yes and to do that u must win games
You don't pick and choose when you want to win. You go out there with that intent every time. We had a strategy this year to win as many games as we can. We are not throwing that out after four games. Players have plenty of time to show something at box hill to force their way into the side. Just like Seamus this week there will be others that will come in through injury or form and get a chance at AFLNot this year. Getting games and development into our squad is more important. The wins will come.
It's important to keep in mind we fielded the youngest squad last weekend. This group forms the core of any premiership tilt this decade.
We have to get it right because if we don't it will be the first time in most of our lives that we won't have claimed a flag in every decade.
And don't underestimate what a win does for the club. It gives everyone a huge lift. The players were gutted after the loss on Sunday. Have a win and the players can celebrate and sing the song. The supporters can celebrate while here on BF we go over the top with praise and start talking about premierships.You don't pick and choose when you want to win. You go out there with that intent every time. We had a strategy this year to win as many games as we can. We are not throwing that out after four games. Players have plenty of time to show something at box hill to force their way into the side. Just like Seamus this week there will be others that will come in through injury or form and get a chance at AFL
Yes we did that, last year and the year before. At the start of this season both McCartney and Sam came out and said that selection would be on merits and not on playing kids just because they need exposure. We have a bunch of kids currently in the side that need AFL exposure and we will continue to develop them form and injury permitting. The days of trying out kids for the sake of it are over. They will need to earn it.Of course any time a player steps on to field they are going 100% for a win. But doesn’t mean club doesn’t make selection and list management decisions with an eye to the future - particularly where we are. We did it last 2 years (eg playing Mitchell and JOM out of position to expose our mids)
Back to Lewis - his injuries are becoming an issue - his body just doesn’t seem to stand up. Dunno if was carrying something already as was well down. Can we build a forward line around him? Or is just going to be one of those tall types who plays 10-15 times a year etc.
You don't pick and choose when you want to win. You go out there with that intent every time. We had a strategy this year to win as many games as we can. We are not throwing that out after four games. Players have plenty of time to show something at box hill to force their way into the side. Just like Seamus this week there will be others that will come in through injury or form and get a chance at AFL
Basically I think the main aim of any team should be to finish top 4 which gives you the best chance to make a preliminary final.Yes and to do that u must win games
It could but from what has come out of the club it wont. Every player that comes in or out of the side will be through form or injury. If we 0 - 15 things may change but i just dont see that atmI think what we are both saying can co-exist.
It's more than just the players we field. It's the roles they play and the game plans and tactics being tested among other things.It could but from what has come out of the club it wont. Every player that comes in or out of the side will be through form or injury. If we 0 - 15 things may change but i just dont see that atm
Agreed. Sam said in his post match conference that Lewis is having more scans tomorrow, & then they'll know if it's a couple of days or something else. This is just absolutely terrible to hear. Effectively, this season has almost mirrored '23 in terms of Lewis' reliability, and there may be even more delays. Just can't count on him. It's imperative we target a key forward who can stay on the park. His prospective partnership with Chol was such a massive part of our rebuild. It ain't happening & our ineffectiveness in the F50 is having massive repercussions. Love the bloke, but hate his body.Unfortunately, Lewis being a late out was never a surprise.
Fingers crossed for next week, but will believe Lewis can get up for a game when he actually runs out onto the park.
A couple of caveats on the following post below:
- Chol continues 1.5-2 goals a game. - Dear continues trajectory of improvement. I give each an 80% chance.
Lewis - if he doesn’t get on the park consistently this season and put up +40 goals I’d be inclined to trade him while his value is high.
I have rated Lewis highly since his first/second season but he just hasn’t put it together.
If rumours of a JUH play are true it makes his position especially tenuous if the first two conditions play out.
People won’t like this but it’s optimal.
Dear is gonna change a lot of our plans about the forward line imo.
One obvious candidate is Brisbane. Desperately need another key forward, in the window, don't need their first round draft pick this year.Posted this 1 month ago.
I've gained stronger conviction on this since.
There could a club in need who thinks their program can get more out of Lewis than ours.
The club should play hard to get and extract max. value in a trade.
Lewis could be our Thommo/Hay and expedite our rebuild.
One obvious candidate is Brisbane. Desperately need another key forward, in the window, don't need their first round draft pick this year.
If we get nothing out of him this year, but he doesn't miss a game for the next two I'd say that's definitely worth it.If he needs surgery, put him in now. Our season is already in tatters anyway.
It kinda makes you think why players for e.g. like Lewis (knee) or Weightman (elbow) don't get these injuries sorted out properly in the offseason rather than waiting and seeing if they settle down when it's been kind of obvious that they won't. In Lewis' case there was an incident when he slid for a mark after coming back 1/4 of the way through last season. Whilst going for the mark his knee bashed into the turf and from there he missed multiple games again until he was put on ice for the rest of the season.If he needs surgery, put him in now. Our season is already in tatters anyway.