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[X_box_X]

Who cares about the Brownlow. Its a tainted medal anyway

Me. I can remember watching every single Brownlow Medal since I was six (1992). I can tell you where I was for each of them. I make sure I always schedule work (requested R/D) around it.

It still remains the second biggest annual event for the bookies too, second only to the Melbourne Cup.

 

[compact72]

Me. I can remember watching every single Brownlow Medal since I was six (1992). I can tell you where I was for each of them. I make sure I always schedule work (requested R/D) around it.

It still remains the second biggest annual event for the bookies too, second only to the Melbourne Cup.

It's tainted bro

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[Champion_Data]

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but Sir Bont is a half decent game away from taking the #4 position in the player ratings. What an incredible feat! In utter awe that this superstar on the rise is in the RW&B.

1 Patrick Dangerfield
Geelong Cats
Points:
709.8
Trend:
NO CHANGE

2 Robbie Gray
NO CHANGE 620.5

3 Scott Pendlebury
NO CHANGE 613.6

4 Nic Naitanui
NO CHANGE 596.6

5 Marcus Bontempelli
CLIMBING 595.4

Needs 18.2 to overtake Naitanui this week. Averaging 16.7 for the year.

 

[X_box_X]

It's tainted bro

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I'll take your word for it and send a letter to Gil and get him to immediately cancel the Brownlow Medal from 2017. You'll just have to deal with it for the rest of 2016.

 

[ManOfClay]

Needs 18.2 to overtake Naitanui this week. Averaging 16.7 for the year.

Away from the numbers, what would constitute an extra couple of points?

Would it be, say, two goals? or x amount more disposals?

 

[Champion_Data]

Away from the numbers, what would constitute an extra couple of points?

Would it be, say, two goals? or x amount more disposals?

Hard to say because no two disposals or goals are the same. eg. A goal from 50m out is worth about 3.0 points, but a goal from the goal square after an uncontested possession is essentially worth no points because most of the points are given to the player who put you in a position where you can't miss. Likewise, possession + disposal depends on how and where you won the ball and the result (possession type and location).

Here's some examples of how different situations can be scored for a centre clearance (these are just single examples, not set point values, as it depends on how long the kick/handball was, what area of the ground it went to, whether it resulted in an uncontested mark, contested mark, turnover, etc):

• 0.4 points - Clanger kick after winning possession at ground level
• 0.5 points - Handball after gather from hitout to advantage
• 0.8 points - Handball after winning a free kick
• 1.1 points - Handball after sharking an opposition hitout
• 2.5 points - Effective kick after winning possession at ground level

 

[compact72]

I'll take your word for it and send a letter to Gil and get him to immediately cancel the Brownlow Medal from 2017. You'll just have to deal with it for the rest of 2016.

How can you say it's not tainted? A drug cheat still has the Brownlow. When it gets taken off him, I'll then change my mind.

 

[ManOfClay]

Hard to say because no two disposals or goals are the same. eg. A goal from 50m out is worth about 3.0 points, but a goal from the goal square after an uncontested possession is essentially worth no points because most of the points are given to the player who put you in a position where you can't miss. Likewise, possession + disposal depends on how and where you won the ball and the result (possession type and location).

Here's some examples of how different situations can be scored for a centre clearance (these are just single examples, not set point values, as it depends on how long the kick/handball was, what area of the ground it went to, whether it resulted in an uncontested mark, contested mark, turnover, etc):

• 0.4 points - Clanger kick after winning possession at ground level
• 0.5 points - Handball after gather from hitout to advantage
• 0.8 points - Handball after winning a free kick
• 1.1 points - Handball after sharking an opposition hitout
• 2.5 points - Effective kick after winning possession at ground level

Thanks, this is what I was after.

Also I laughed a bit at "a goal from the goal square after an uncontested possession is essentially worth no points because most of the points are given to the player who put you in a position where you can't miss."

Didn't see Clay Smith last weekend miss pretty much just that?

 

[BEaston]

How can you say it's not tainted? A drug cheat still has the Brownlow. When it gets taken off him, I'll then change my mind.

Right, because one cheater from one year still has the medal while an appeal is in process, every other winner of said medal is tainted... not an over the top viewpoint at all.

 

[ManOfClay]

Can't get too much more biased than this

Putting age and draft year aside, these are two very different styled players which makes it an odd comparison.

Bontempelli has more runs on the board currently due to playing in a stronger team and having been exposed to more senior action. He has played virtually a full season more than Cripps (as Cripps missed most of the first year) meaning he's had more continuity to his game and more chance to impress. He is largely a silky player who hits the scoreboard and impacts games without being a contested ball beast. Although he is more than adept at that as well.

Cripps has played 38 games. Has there ever been a player come in and dominate contested ball the way he does at this age and with this few games under his belt? I think not. He is genuinely elite in this category already as he absolutely dominates contested ball but needs to work on his outside running ability and conversion rate when pushing forward. Often pushes forward and takes marks but let's himself down with goal kicking. Seems to be carrying some kind of injury at the moment which has slowed him down a yard or two and is not allowing him to hit as many targets by hand.

Both are fantastic prospects who should turn out to be stars of the game. For what it's worth, I would choose an inside beast over an icing on the cake type guy every day of the week when hand-picking a team. Cripps strikes me as a player perfect for finals footy. Picture this.. scores are tied in a grand final with only a few minutes to go. Who do you bank on ripping the ball out of a pack, getting there hands high and hand balling to a teammates advantage, setting them up in space to drive the ball into the 50?

1. Bont 53 games, Cripps 38. 15 games more, hardly virtually a full season. And if Bont was playing in a stronger team, surely he wouldn't have been exposed to senior action so early? Maybe it was just because he is very good

2. Bont is largely a silky player who hits the scoreboard without being a contested ball beast? He's not Bryce Gibbs or Marc Murphy. He impacts the scoreboard because unlike Cripps he has versatility to his game. If Bont played solely at the bottom of a pack he'd get just as much as Cripps. Fortunately Bont is capable of playing elsewhere.

3. Bont is an icing on the cake type? He is the cake and the icing, that's why most think he's going to be the best.

4. That grand final scenario -- there are numerous examples of Bont doing that already. But on top of that there are examples of Bont being that outside player too.

 

[Ozil]

Cripps has less to his game, but he's solely an inside mid therefore you take him over the proven match winner, because he's the type who wins you matches.

Hysterical.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Cripps and Bontempelli both with a heap of the contested ball. Cripps' numbers are inflated because Beveridge has a tactic of rotating midfielders out of midfield more than the league average. Even so I'd still say that Cripps is fractionally better in stoppage/pack situations in the pure task of extracting the ball.

It's just that Bont is better at disposing through pressure and tackling, looks to kick rather than handball more, is a very accurate kick for goal, can rest forward at a higher quality, bursts away from packs more and is generally a more damaging player anyway.

Also would like to know in what to know how Bont isn't inside and is an icing player when he's had games this year with over 20 contested possessions for the match.

Cripps is a gun inside midfielder but he's only had 10 kicks twice this season. There's limitations to how much impact on a game you can truly have if you only have less than 10 kicks.

 

[immortalmike]

How can you say it's not tainted? A drug cheat still has the Brownlow. When it gets taken off him, I'll then change my mind.

Personally I think Brock Lesnar should give back his Brownlow too.

 

[Cemos]

Don't worry, I took my shoes off

 

[VogonProsthetnic]

How many close wins have we had this year- Crows, Eagles, Port, Sydney, Richmond, Collingwood. Have a look at replay and look at who was involved in the match winning plays. It's like Burgoyne or Cyril- you just can't measure how good these guys are with stats.

 

[doggies ftw]

Don't worry, I took my shoes off

Holy shit that video was incredible

 

[Substance]

Don't worry, I took my shoes off

Absolutely love your work, thanks for doing another Bulldog.

 

[House_of_Dahl]

Don't worry, I took my shoes off

A player of Bont's age has no right to have a highlights vid like that already!

 

[Yojimbo]

Top games played and pick number from 2013 draft.

Draftees.
1- Lewis Taylor, pick 28, games played 58.
2- Marcus Bontempelli, pick 4, games played 53.
3- Kade Kolodjashnij, pick 5, games played 53.
4- Zach Merrett, pick 26, games played 53.
5- Josh Kelly, pick 2, games played 52.
6- Luke McDonald, pick 8, games played 50.
7- Luke Dunstan, pick 18, games played 50.
8- Jarman Impey, pick 21, games played 49.
9- Ben Brown, pick 47, games played 49.
10- Sean Lemmens, pick 27, games played 47.

Promoted Rookies.
1- Dane Rampe, pick 90, games played 65.
2- Ed Curnow, pick 89, games played 53.
3- Rory Laird, pick 86, games played 50.
4- Jeremy McGovern, pick 74, games played 48.
5- Tom Bell, pick 94, games played 47.
6- Jonathon Ceglar, pick 59, games played 43.
7- Will Langford, pick 71, games played 42.
8- Justin Clarke, pick 75, games played 42.
9- Kyle Hartigan, pick 76, games played 40.
10- Matthew Taberner, pick 70, games played 38.
(games since promotion)

 

[Maddog1980]

Don't worry, I took my shoes off

You can leave your shoes on if you bring a video like that!

 

[Deadly Darcy]

Can't get too much more biased than this




1. Bont 53 games, Cripps 38. 15 games more, hardly virtually a full season. And if Bont was playing in a stronger team, surely he wouldn't have been exposed to senior action so early? Maybe it was just because he is very good

2. Bont is largely a silky player who hits the scoreboard without being a contested ball beast? He's not Bryce Gibbs or Marc Murphy. He impacts the scoreboard because unlike Cripps he has versatility to his game. If Bont played solely at the bottom of a pack he'd get just as much as Cripps. Fortunately Bont is capable of playing elsewhere.

3. Bont is an icing on the cake type? He is the cake and the icing, that's why most think he's going to be the best.

4. That grand final scenario -- there are numerous examples of Bont doing that already. But on top of that there are examples of Bont being that outside player too.

Pretty sure Bont plays in a good team because it has the Bont

 

[Fossie 32]

Don't worry, I took my shoes off

Awesome ta

 

[ScragCity]

You cant even seriously compare Cripps and Bont anymore. Bont has taken his game to a whole new level this year when he started getting 30+ possessions and just winning multiple games off his own boot. Cripps is still a nobody and Bont is a household name.

 

[compact72]

Don't worry, I took my shoes off

The more I watch this, the more I can't wait for Saturday to see his magic again

 

[Palace03]

I just drafted Lord Bontness in supercoach this week, inevitably he will suck this week. Apologies in advance... After watching that video, beyond this week I think he will be one of the best we've ever seen in the RW&B by the time he finishes up.