What They're Saying - The Bulldogs Media Thread - Part 2
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Not saying the stats are incorrect, but a kick can be effective if they're 40m distance and it goes to a pack, whilst shorter than 40m, it has to hit the target to be effective. My guess is Dahl has thrown it on the boot more than the first three.
In any case, there's not much you can understand from 8 games when any given individual player is only kicking it inside 50 a couple of times. Macrae has 16 inside 50's, Hunter 24, Libba 12, Dahl 29 and Bont 36. Not all of them are kicks where running or handballing the ball over the line counts as well. Even if we say Libba's 33% means that 4 of his 12 kicks (out of 12 inside 50's) were effective. Increasing that to 5 out of 12, which could have happened very easily, increases him to 42%. Reducing him to 3/12 decreases him to 25%. It's nice stats but from a club perspective they're better off getting the match footage and looking at each kick individually (where it wouldn't actually take that long if it takes you 60 seconds to interpret every I50, it would take 12 minutes for Libba...) rather than use stats like that with low sample size it doesn't really mean anything.
i know that this stat is just for 2017, but watching the dogs last year i can recall that our mids butcher the ball i50 on a regular basis
interesting to see what was the stats for 2016
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Yep. Not denying we butcher the ball. I'm just saying it's kind of pointless to "rank" players like Hunter and Libba's kicking inside 50 against each other when one kick here and there can vary their percentages so wildly. That's why statisticians love large sample sizes.
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Did you superimpose Tom boyd's hands in that photo?
Yeh I agree. But that's how they make an article.
It's a combination of forwards and mids
I guess this could be a factor as to why we struggle to kick big scores
Not the commentators though
You could've played three games & kicked two behinds and they'll call you a bad kick for goal based off of that
Its pretty stupid
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This is getting ridiculous
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I don't think this is factually correct. As I understand it different foods pass through the body at different rates so it possible that what you are tasting is last nights dinner not this mornings breakfast.
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Should the discussion about rim jobs be moved to the non-footy talk thread?
Probably. I am getting pretty tyred of it already in this thread.
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Mitch Wallis says he will ‘buck the trend’ of players struggling on return from major injuries
GLENN McFARLANE, Herald Sun
23 minutes ago
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WESTERN Bulldogs midfielder Mitch Wallis is confident he can “buck the trend” of players struggling following lengthy injury layoffs after a stunning return to AFL football on Friday night.
Exactly 300 days after suffering an horrific broken leg last July, the 24-year-old made an inspiring comeback to the highest level in the Bulldogs’ 23-point loss to Geelong at Simonds Stadium.
He was clearly his team’s best player, having 26 disposals (20 of them contested), reeling off 12 clearances and kicking two important goals after replacing his good mate Tom Liberatore in the midfield.
But while he was relieved to get through his return match unscathed, Wallis was more frustrated with the team’s inability to capitalise when it had the momentum rather than content with his own considerable output.
“It felt like we had the momentum, but things can change really quickly in footy,” Wallis told the Sunday Herald Sun.
“We felt like we had our noses in front and had control of the game, but it is a four-quarter game and we didn’t play the four quarters.”
Mitch Wallis in action during his comeback to the AFL.
“It was such a high-paced game and we gifted them a couple of goals early in the last (quarter) which gave them the momentum back. It was just so disappointing that we didn’t really give a yelp after that.”
The return of Wallis was an overwhelming success and part of a strategic approach from the Bulldogs’ coaching and fitness staff of not pushing him too early into an AFL return.
The plan was to ensure he had at least three games in the VFL to make sure he was ready to perform at the elite level.
Wallis said as frustrating as it was for him to have to wait a few extra weeks, he knew it was in his best interests as he looks to make up for lost time by having a big second half of the season.
“There is a fair bit of documentation that people coming back from long-term injuries have a slow (first) six months,” he said.
“I am going to buck that trend, I am not going to fall for that.”
Mitch Wallis cradles his leg after suffering a horrific break last year.
“I am impatient at the best of times. It was (strategic). We pushed the limits, obviously within the boundaries, to get back within nine months, and we did. I still needed the confidence of a few VFL games, but I got through unscathed.
“There is always a bit of a question mark to see if you can get through a game and I have ticked that box now, but I am very eager to get onto the next one (against St Kilda), so that we can celebrate a win.”
Wallis sought plenty of counsel from those around him about returning from a badly broken leg, an injury that was not dissimilar to those suffered by Nathan Brown and Matt Maguire, players who never recaptured their best form after their incidents.
“‘Moz’ (Dale Morris) has been the most important one for me (in terms of advice),” Wallis said. “He has been through it.”
“There was a lot of support for me there initially, but it got to the point where I had to take the reins and it was more about how eager I was and how much I wanted it. I did work my butt off for a long time.”
Wallis, whose injury cost him the chance to play in the club’s flag last year, says the Bulldogs are as hungry as ever and will progressively get better as the season further unfolds.
Mitch Wallis and Marcus Bontempelli watch on at a VFL game last year. Picture: Wayne Ludbey
“We are not that far away. It is still pretty raw, but we take some positives away from the game, even though we are disappointed with the result,” he said. “When we play good footy and we have done that in patches, it is good enough to beat anyone.”
“We have proven that. It is just about the continuity of doing to for four quarters. We are still searching to find that.”
Wallis said Geelong’s star midfielders Patrick Dangerfield and Joel Selwood came to the fore when it mattered and that was the challenge confronting the Dogs going forward.
“(Geelong’s tacking) was off the charts,” he said. “We knew it was coming. They were challenged (during the week) and we were challenged, too.”
“They probably adapted to the conditions better than we did. They were a bit harder around the footy for a bit longer.
“He (Dangerfield) is a star player. He had a great night. We think he is a bit hurt at the moment, but he is a star player. To see him respond and react the way he did shows how good a player he is.”
GLENN McFARLANE, Herald Sun
23 minutes ago
Subscriber only
WESTERN Bulldogs midfielder Mitch Wallis is confident he can “buck the trend” of players struggling following lengthy injury layoffs after a stunning return to AFL football on Friday night.
Exactly 300 days after suffering an horrific broken leg last July, the 24-year-old made an inspiring comeback to the highest level in the Bulldogs’ 23-point loss to Geelong at Simonds Stadium.
He was clearly his team’s best player, having 26 disposals (20 of them contested), reeling off 12 clearances and kicking two important goals after replacing his good mate Tom Liberatore in the midfield.
But while he was relieved to get through his return match unscathed, Wallis was more frustrated with the team’s inability to capitalise when it had the momentum rather than content with his own considerable output.
“It felt like we had the momentum, but things can change really quickly in footy,” Wallis told the Sunday Herald Sun.
“We felt like we had our noses in front and had control of the game, but it is a four-quarter game and we didn’t play the four quarters.”
Mitch Wallis in action during his comeback to the AFL.
“It was such a high-paced game and we gifted them a couple of goals early in the last (quarter) which gave them the momentum back. It was just so disappointing that we didn’t really give a yelp after that.”
The return of Wallis was an overwhelming success and part of a strategic approach from the Bulldogs’ coaching and fitness staff of not pushing him too early into an AFL return.
The plan was to ensure he had at least three games in the VFL to make sure he was ready to perform at the elite level.
Wallis said as frustrating as it was for him to have to wait a few extra weeks, he knew it was in his best interests as he looks to make up for lost time by having a big second half of the season.
“There is a fair bit of documentation that people coming back from long-term injuries have a slow (first) six months,” he said.
“I am going to buck that trend, I am not going to fall for that.”
Mitch Wallis cradles his leg after suffering a horrific break last year.
“I am impatient at the best of times. It was (strategic). We pushed the limits, obviously within the boundaries, to get back within nine months, and we did. I still needed the confidence of a few VFL games, but I got through unscathed.
“There is always a bit of a question mark to see if you can get through a game and I have ticked that box now, but I am very eager to get onto the next one (against St Kilda), so that we can celebrate a win.”
Wallis sought plenty of counsel from those around him about returning from a badly broken leg, an injury that was not dissimilar to those suffered by Nathan Brown and Matt Maguire, players who never recaptured their best form after their incidents.
“‘Moz’ (Dale Morris) has been the most important one for me (in terms of advice),” Wallis said. “He has been through it.”
“There was a lot of support for me there initially, but it got to the point where I had to take the reins and it was more about how eager I was and how much I wanted it. I did work my butt off for a long time.”
Wallis, whose injury cost him the chance to play in the club’s flag last year, says the Bulldogs are as hungry as ever and will progressively get better as the season further unfolds.
Mitch Wallis and Marcus Bontempelli watch on at a VFL game last year. Picture: Wayne Ludbey
“We are not that far away. It is still pretty raw, but we take some positives away from the game, even though we are disappointed with the result,” he said. “When we play good footy and we have done that in patches, it is good enough to beat anyone.”
“We have proven that. It is just about the continuity of doing to for four quarters. We are still searching to find that.”
Wallis said Geelong’s star midfielders Patrick Dangerfield and Joel Selwood came to the fore when it mattered and that was the challenge confronting the Dogs going forward.
“(Geelong’s tacking) was off the charts,” he said. “We knew it was coming. They were challenged (during the week) and we were challenged, too.”
“They probably adapted to the conditions better than we did. They were a bit harder around the footy for a bit longer.
“He (Dangerfield) is a star player. He had a great night. We think he is a bit hurt at the moment, but he is a star player. To see him respond and react the way he did shows how good a player he is.”
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Bit of a nothing article. Doesn't say anything monumentally insightful that we haven't been discussing here all season.
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