What They're Saying - The Bulldogs Media Thread - Part 2

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True but still the Sydney audience was down about 50% on last year( 740 thousand vs 370) , which was the highest Sydney audience since they won in 2012, the next best being 2005-6 when they were last in. I agree that our story was probably more popular than Richmonds for neutrals and we did rate better in every state including Melbourne but Sydney GFs have outrated other GFs involving an interstate team, exactly because of what you said. They’re not interested in sport unless they’re involved. So it wasn’t the only reason but Sydney participating did help the overall ratings.


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Gary Buckenara analyses Western Bulldogs list after the 2017 season
GARY BUCKENARA, Herald Sun
26 minutes ago
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THE Bulldogs would be bitterly disappointed to not make finals after the fairytale premiership last year but the club shouldn’t make any rash decisions.

Great expectations come with winning a premiership and what the Bulldogs have learnt this year is just how much hard work it takes to stay at the top, which is often underestimated externally especially when talking about a young team like this one.

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There is no such thing as an easy game in the AFL anymore and that has never been truer than in season 2017, one of the tightest in the game’s history. The Bulldogs players likely just struggled going from the hunter to the hunted and backing up every week when you know your opposition is going to throw everything at you — their work ethic goes up at least five per cent — because they want to knock off the premiers.

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As individuals, the young group would no doubt be questioning whether they may have been just a bit satisfied with what they achieved last year. Did they actually train and prepare and were they as professional as what they were a year or two ago?

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Marcus Bontempelli won the Bulldogs best and fairest but he didn’t reach the same heights as his form in 2016. Picture: Michael Klein
There is no doubt players like Tom Liberatore, Jake Stringer, Luke Dahlhaus, Clay Smith, Jordan Roughead and even Marcus Bontempelli, despite winning the best and fairest, didn’t reach the same level of performance they did in 2016.

But that doesn’t mean these guys are bad players or that last year was just a flash in the pan.

I expect the Western Bulldogs to bounce back and bounce back really hard in season 2018 and be a top-four side and premiership contender.

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Luke Beveridge said the club and Stringer reached a mutual decision to part ways but I wouldn’t be rushing out to do a deal despite the forward nominating Essendon as his preferred new home.

There are obviously personal issues that have been written and spoken about and it seems Stringer is all but gone but I would urge the Bulldogs not to make any rash decisions based on one sub-par year and off-field dramas. There is no club out there that knows Jake Stringer as well as the Bulldogs.

And that goes for Tom Liberatore as well.

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Players of the quality of Jake Stringer are hard to find and that’s why the Dogs must be compensated appropriately despite his off-field issues. Picture: Michael Klein
Stringer is an All-Australian, a premiership player and he has so much talent and x-factor it’s worth trying to work with him to get him back to that form we saw in 2015. It’s hard to find players like Jake Stringer.

The Bulldogs need to get the forward structure right with Jack Redpath, Tom Boyd, Travis Cloke, Tory Dickson and Stewart Crameri so it can release Stringer to play further up the ground as that midfield wildcard who can burst out of packs and use his explosiveness. That is the role he should be and needs to be playing. That’s when he’s at his most dangerous.

Having said that, if Essendon offered a top 10 pick — they currently hold No.11 — then I would consider doing the deal. Or a 2018 first-round pick given the strength of next year’s draft pool. Anything less than that then I’d be saying ‘OK Jake, we’re going to keep you and now it’s on you to get yourself right.’

While some might think that is overs for a guy who is coming off a disappointing season and has some off-field concerns, the facts remain that Stringer was a pick No.5 back in 2012, is still just 23 years of age and he is already an All-Australian and premiership player.

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A second-round pick isn’t enough for Essendon to secure Jake Stringer. Picture: Michael Klein
To get a second-round draft pick in return for your investment just isn’t enough despite the off-field issues. Can the Dogs really replace Stringer with a player it gets in the second round? Not in this draft.

Liberatore spent time in the VFL this year and was under pressure for his performances basically for the entire season but what people don’t realise is he was doing roles for the side late in the second. He was playing shutdown roles on the opposition’s playmakers in the last month or so.

So while he might have only been getting 14 or 15 disposals, down from 30-odd last year, that’s because his role wasn’t to be a ball winner it was to stop his direct opponent from getting it. You’re not going to get big numbers when you’re doing that role.

I don’t think the Bulldogs would be entirely unhappy with him. Yes, at times his body language wasn’t great because maybe he would have preferred to have been playing a different role but he did the job and he did it for the team. That would be acknowledged by Beveridge, the coaches and his teammates.

This year will no doubt have provided the players with a huge learning experience, going from that euphoria of a premiership to the disappointment of missing finals will ground a lot of those players. They will be better for it and they should come back hungry to achieve that ultimate success again.

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Tom Liberatore spent time in the VFL this year after battling for form. Picture: Michael Klein
There are a lot of talented players on the list who are still in the infancy of their careers. We saw the development of Bailey Dale who turned into a good player, Caleb Daniel didn’t have a great year but he’s a real professional and I think he’ll bounce back, Toby McLean is turning into a good player, Josh Dunkley missed a lot of the year with injury, Marcus Adams was a mature-age pick-up but has had two injury-riddled seasons and Lewis Young showed good signs late.

Add them to Lin Jong coming back from injury, another pre-season into Mitch Wallis after his serious leg injury, Jack Redpath back fit after his knee reconstruction, Roughead hopefully having a clear run at it, Tom Boyd back from his personal issues and a fit Tory Dickson after his injury problems.

Then consider Bontempelli, Dahlhaus, Stringer (if he’s there), Liberatore, Easton Wood, jack Macrae, Lachie Hunter, Matt Suckling and Jason Johannisen — that is a talented team with plenty of depth.

This isn’t going to be a team on the slide.

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Jackson Trengove would be a huge get for the Bulldogs. Picture: Roger Wyman
WHAT THEY NEED

If the Bulldogs could lure Jackson Trengove, and the talk is that they will, to play as a key defender from Port Adelaide as a free agent and then also nab a ruckman then those are really the missing pieces of the puzzle. That helps their structure enormously.

The Bulldogs desperately need to shore up their defence and help veteran Dale Morris and Trengove fits the bill because I believe playing down back is his best position so I hope that’s the role they have in mind.

Zaine Cordy and Fletcher Roberts aren’t really No.1 defenders, they’re more second or third talls and Kieran Collins is still developing so that is definitely an area requiring attention.

Beveridge’s team was probably the most affected by the third-man up rule and I think it’s time the club invested in a genuine ruckman. Tim English will develop but he’s not ready yet so an experienced ruckman is on the shopping list, which would allow Jordan Roughead to be released into a key defensive role, which I think he’s best suited. If the Bulldogs could get a Todd Goldstein or Stefan Martin or even Matthew Lobbe from Port Adelaide that would be ideal.

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Stewart Crameri is under the pump next year if he stays at the Kennel. Picture: Michael Klein
UNDER THE PUMP

Stewart Crameri, Clay Smith, Mitch Honeychurch and Kieran Collins are all under the pump but for different reasons.

Crameri had an injury-interrupted year coming off the 12-month suspension for his role in the Essendon supplements saga and if he stays at the Bulldogs he will need to put in a big pre-season, get his body right and get back to his best. If he can’t, then at 29 years of age, turning 30 next year, his place becomes vulnerable. He’s in a race against time to reproduce his best footy, which is really important given the struggled the Bulldogs had up forward this year.

Did Smith enjoy the premiership a bit too much last year? Obviously he’s had a history of serious knee injuries and had to endure some personal tragedy but he really didn’t produce what we expect of him. He’ll need to put in a big pre-season of training and games to make sure he’s back in that side for Round 1.

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Clay Smith was one of a number of Bulldogs to struggling this year. Picture: Getty
Honeychurch played a few games this year but still failed to cement his spot in the side despite plenty of opportunities, given the team’s struggles this year, that presented. He might look for another club.

Collins is a young key defender who I rated really highly in the 2015 draft but has had some injury concerns and will need to show something next year. The Bulldogs are crying out for a big full back and he’s exactly that but despite Cordy and Roberts failing to lock down that spot, he didn’t get a look in. Kieran is Brian Lake reincarnate and I expected more from him because he’s already got a big, strong body and I thought he’d make an impact straight away.

BUCKY’S LIST CHANGES

Bob Murphy and Matthew Boyd have retired, while Declan Hamilton, Josh Prudden and Tristan Tweedie have been delisted and I wouldn’t be making any other changes outside of trade ins or outs (depending on requests and list spots) given that is four changes already from in the primary list. This is a young list and the Bulldogs are still finding out which players can or can’t make it at the level.

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The Bulldogs’ premiership window is still open according to Gary Buckenara. Picture: Getty
CYRSTAL BALL

I hope the Bulldogs players sat down and watched the finals series and the Grand Final in particular so all those emotions of what it was like to run on the MCG in the final game of the year came flooding back. That provides hunger and will drive this group through pre-season and I expect the Bulldogs to be challenging for top four and for the premiership next year.

The premiership window is wide open.

Gary Buckenara helped build Hawthorn’s three-peat premiership list and now he runs a rule over club lists in an exclusive column for the Herald Sun.

Buckenara was a major part of Hawthorn’s recruiting team between 2004-2015 and was responsible for bringing Lance Franklin, Jarryd Roughead and Jordan Lewis to the Hawks in 2004 when he was the Hawks’ sole full-time recruiter.
 

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Every single one of his articles are like that. I can't see him changing now
Funny how they've got to make sure to add that disclaimer about his history as a recruiter at the end to try and trick people into thinking his articles aren't just unresearched dribble. It must work for the casual fan seeing as he's somehow still got the gig.
 
He clearly has a lot of knowledge about the ins and outs of managing lists, which is the part that interests me when it comes to his articles, but his research on individual players and lists is always lacking.
 
Top four and premiership contenders.

I hope so, bad sadly I think he is kidding himself.
I certainly think that's within the realms of possibility. In fact I wouldn't rule out finishing anywhere from first to 15th. I have absolutely no idea what to expect next year, and I'm yet to decide whether that's exciting or terrifying.
 
Can we as a fan base not listen to Trade Radio.
A: they hate the dogs and bag us out at every opportunity
B: it's pathetic level journalism
C: so many ads

How about a Bulldog fan ban.... see if people power will change their tune.


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It's absolutely terrible, but surely you don't think that a boycott from dogs fans will change anything.

I don't know why any of you bother listening anyway. News will come out approximately 2 minutes after they say it on there anyway.

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It's absolutely terrible, but surely you don't think that a boycott from dogs fans will change anything.

I don't know why any of you bother listening anyway. News will come out approximately 2 minutes after they say it on there anyway.

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Alienating 8% of your audience can mean the difference between bonus payments for audience size.
 

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Every dollar counts.
Alienating 8% of your audience can mean the difference between bonus payments for audience size.
I'm willing to bet dogs fans don't make up even 3% of their audience.



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Bont is captain apparently.

Could Port Adelaide’s Jarman Impey follow mate Jackson Trengove to Western Bulldogs?

Michael Randall, Herald Sun
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IF new Western Bulldog Jackson Trengove has his way, speedy teammate Jarman Impey will be joining him at Whitten Oval next season.

Trengove, who this morning lodged paperwork with the AFL to move from Port Adelaide to the Dogs, wants to take his housemate with him.

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Could Jarman Impey land at the Dogs? Picture: Michael Klein
“I’m working on it,” Trengove said on AFL Trade Radio.

“He’s in a unique situation where he has to make a decision and I can’t make it for him.

“It’s sort of an awkward position that I’m in, obviously I’d love for him to play with me again.

“I’d love to make it for him and I know where he’d end up if I was making it, but he’ll make his decision in the coming weeks and he’ll make the right decision for what’s best for him.”

Impey is under contract at the Power until the end of 2018, but both the Dogs and Hawthorn have been mentioned as potential trade suitors for the 177cm livewire.

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Jackson Trengove hopes mate Jarman Impey will join him at the Dogs. Picture: Getty Images
Bulldogs list manager Jason McCartney said the club had kept an eye on Impey.

“Jackson does have a pretty good relationship with Jarman Impey,” McCartney said.

“Jarman is a player that’s in contract.

“We like Jarman, we’ve tracked him pretty closely this year, but being contracted, there is a lot to play out there.

“Some other clubs are interested, we’d like to be able to do something there, but being in contract, there is a fair bit of water to go under the bridge there.”

Trengove opened up on the pair’s dinner date with Western Bulldogs captain Marcus Bontempelli, which was snapped by a Twitter user.

“Bont’s a great bloke, he did pick up the bill, which was terrific,” Trengove said of the meal.

“We just caught up for a beer and some dinner, it was actually Grand Final weekend so we had some stuff on down in Melbourne.

“It’s quite funny how a photo gets taken and everyone reads into it a bit too much.

“Jarman is the same age bracket as Bont and knew him previously.

“You can’t go anywhere without a photo taken these days.”

The Shepparton product has played 75 games with the Power across four seasons and is reportedly keen to return home this summer.
 
Brad Johnson is the guest programmer on Fox Footy at the moment. They just had Round 4, 1997 against Melbourne. Obviously according to Bruce and Watson it was #freekickbulldogs even way back then.

Schwarz looking devastated in the coach's box, must have backed the Dees.
 


I don't think its as bad as what some have made out but some of things Wallace says left me confused as to whether he watched us.

Apart from the end where he makes a prediction, everything else he said was pretty accurate.
He missed the glaringly obvious though and that is pace. That's our biggest concern in my book.
 
Can we as a fan base not listen to Trade Radio.
A: they hate the dogs and bag us out at every opportunity
B: it's pathetic level journalism
C: so many ads

How about a Bulldog fan ban.... see if people power will change their tune.


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They used to have Cam Luke on there in past years, pretty sure he was a dogs supporter. That would help a bit
 
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