Which clubs have the best 25 and under team?

[PhatBoy]

Need players to get Knevitt and Bruhn out of that centreline.

Knevitt yes. Bruhn has had his moments. He will be ok with a bit of consistency

 

[Footy Smarts]

Need players to get Knevitt and Bruhn out of that centreline.

Knevitt is clearly a make or break year. He's got some strengths but needs to improve a lot from what he's shown to make it. I have my doubts.

Bruhn is going fine. He's an exceptional clearance player (top 30 in the league on low game time) and a really good kick. He just needs to take another step forward with his outside game and stop getting niggly injuries that held him back last year. He'll be a solid long-term player. The question is whether he can become an A-grader.

 

[bzparkes]

Not sure why people are including draftees from this year when none of them having played a single minute.

Weird thing to flex over when many of them will be complete busts.

 

[Rich01]

Knevitt yes. Bruhn has had his moments. He will be ok with a bit of consistency

To contend at the pointy end, no. Bhuhn shouldn’t be a starting square player.

 

[PhatBoy]

To contend at the pointy end, no. Bhuhn shouldn’t be a starting square player.

Right now, no, I probably agree with you. But I don’t see why that can’t change within a season or two.

 

[weltschmerz]

Not sure why people are including draftees from this year when none of them having played a single minute.

Weird thing to flex over when many of them will be complete busts.

Only way to get to 22.

 

[Rich01]

Right now, no, I probably agree with you. But I don’t see why that can’t change within a season or two.

Sure, all players under 25 have the ability to change within a season or two. I just don’t see it with Bruin. He’s a decent second string mid in a side contending for a flag in my view.

Geelong would turf him out in a heartbeat if it meant any of Rowell, Oliver, LDU or Harley Reid go into the centre. He’s way off.

 

[bzparkes]

Only way to get to 22.

Then supporters should just list players who've been on the list for at least a season and list draftees separately.

Would give a far better indication than listing a bunch of kids who haven't even stepped foot onto an AFL field yet.

In fact, it'd give a far better idea of how big some team's gaps may be by not covering them up with brand new draftees, as well as indicating how far along teams are in a rebuild phase, or from falling off the cliff entirely.

 

[PhatBoy]

Sure, all players under 25 have the ability to change within a season or two. I just don’t see it with Bruin. He’s a decent second string mid in a side contending for a flag in my view.

Geelong would turf him out in a heartbeat if it meant any of Rowell, Oliver, LDU or Harley Reid go into the centre. He’s way off.

Take out the two games where he was subbed out early and one of them he was injured - the other one he may have been or he may have just been playing genuinely shit, I really don’t remember - he was getting his 19 touches, 5 tackles a game, that was decent enough for me for a young guy turning 22 midway through the season. You don’t have to be a superstar to be holding down a starting midfield spot you just have to be doing a job. If he does that I’m happy enough. That also depends of course on other players doing a job too, that’s not lost on me: you wouldn’t want him being your ‘best’ or something.

 

[weltschmerz]

Then supporters should just list players who've been on the list for at least a season and list draftees separately.

Would give a far better indication than listing a bunch of kids who haven't even stepped foot onto an AFL field yet.

In fact, it'd give a far better idea of how big some team's gaps may be by not covering them up with brand new draftees, as well as indicating how far along teams are in a rebuild phase, or from falling off the cliff entirely.

Fair enough. With draftees removed:

FB: Busslinger, Croft, Cleary
HB: Gallagher, O’Donnell, X
C: Poulter, Sanders, Freijah
HF: West, JUH, X
FF: Weightman, Darcy, X
R: Smith, Garcia, X
IC: Jones, Khamis, McNeil, X

Draftees: Jaques, Davidson, Dolan, Hynes, and Kennedy, who slip into those X spots

 

[bzparkes]

Fair enough. With draftees removed:

FB: Busslinger, Croft, Cleary
HB: Gallagher, O’Donnell, X
C: Poulter, Sanders, Freijah
HF: West, JUH, X
FF: Weightman, Darcy, X
R: Smith, Garcia, X
IC: Jones, Khamis, McNeil, X

Draftees: Jaques, Davidson, Dolan, Hynes, and Kennedy, who slip into those X spots

See that's pretty good, considering how many of them already play seniors, or are on the brink of it.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

FB: Michalanney/Keane/Worrell
HB: Jones/NMurray/Nankervis
_C Sholl/Draper/Dowling
HF: Rachele/Curtin/Berry
FF: Rankine/Thilthorpe/Pedlar
_R: TMurray/Soligo/Peatling
IN: Cook/Taylor/Borlase/Bond
SU: Schoenberg
EM: Edwards/Ryan/Welsh

Strengths are definitely key position defenders and lots of quality in the forward line.

Midfield is a weakness but with Draper and Peatling coming in it looks less dire. Plus Curtin would’ve been in there if not that I needed a chf and Curtin can play there.

Rucks is a genuine issue, Toby Murray at 200cm is only a part timer at this stage.

Another positive is that a lot of these players are in our best 23 anyway.

Nice side... if I'm picking for now...

B: Bond, N Murray, Keane
HB: Michaelanny, Worrell, Nankervis
C: Sholl, Soligo, Peatling
HF: Rachele, Curtin, Dowling
F: Cook, Thilthorpe, Pedlar
R: T Murray, Berry, Rankine
I: Ryan, Jones, Draper, Taylor
Sub: Schoenberg
E: Edwards, Borlase, Welsh

 

[Lingsface]

Nice side... if I'm picking for now...

B: Bond, N Murray, Keane
HB: Michaelanny, Worrell, Nankervis
C: Sholl, Soligo, Peatling
HF: Rachele, Curtin, Dowling
F: Cook, Thilthorpe, Pedlar
R: T Murray, Berry, Rankine
I: Ryan, Jones, Draper, Taylor
Sub: Schoenberg
E: Edwards, Borlase, Welsh

Would love to see Charlie Edwards get some opportunities, I think his game suits AFL more than the lower competitions.

 

[SC_Power]

25 and under, no draftees or players with zero games

B: Evans, Bergman , Williams
HB: Jones, Farrell, Burgoyne
C: Sinn, Horne-Francis, Rozee
HF: Lorenz, Lukosius, Richards
F: Lord, Georgiades, McEntee
R: Visentini, Butters, Mead


Weaknesses are
Plenty of small-mid defenders (why Houston isn’t as big a problem as it could be), but light on for any KPDs, Ratagolea and Zerk Thatcher are 26
Inexperienced Ruck, Sweet is 26
One small forward short, Powell Pepper is 26
One on baller short, Drew is 26
Inexperienced 3rd tall, Marshall is 26.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Not sure why people are including draftees from this year when none of them having played a single minute.

Weird thing to flex over when many of them will be complete busts.

I would think this is a weird thing to get your panties in a twist about.

Many of those who have played a single minute will also be complete busts. Yet you seem OK with them being listed.

Then supporters should just list players who've been on the list for at least a season and list draftees separately.

Or, here’s a thought. They could just post whatever they want, and pay no attention to what some random dude going by the username bzparkes thinks they should do?

Would give a far better indication than listing a bunch of kids who haven't even stepped foot onto an AFL field yet.

You can keep pretending that these guys aren’t on AFL lists and under the age of 25, but they are.

In fact, it'd give a far better idea of how big some team's gaps may be by not covering them up with brand new draftees.

What a ridiculous thing to say. They would have in large part recruited these guys precisely to fill these gaps.

Again, for some bizarre reason, you’re trying to pretend they don’t exist. Some will make it, some won’t. Just like the ones who have played.

 

[Bald]

Richards & Naughton are too old for this team.

And Darcy is too tall.

Naughton and Richards are 25 or under though? Richards turns 26 in July next year so I can accept him but Naughton will be 25 for the entirety of the 2025 season.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Naughton and Richards are 25 or under though? Richards turns 26 in July next year so I can accept him but Naughton will be 25 for the entirety of the 2025 season.

How old was he when he started walking though? That comes into it.

 

[Bald]

How old was he when he started walking though? That comes into it.

Have you seen how awkward he runs? It wouldn't shock me if it were somewhat recent.

 

[BrutThough]

I forgot about Jack Carroll in mine. Have added him now. Peeps are really liking what they’re seeing of him on the track so far.

Higgins, Clark and Dow were all born in 1999 through, so they don’t qualify. It’s only for those born in the 2000’s.

B: Stocker Caminiti Schoenmaker
HB: Wang-mil Tauru Travaglia
C: Wilson Phillipou Byrnes
HF: Henry Sharman Owens
F: Collard King Keeler
R: Dodson Carroll Windhager
I: Garcia Hastie McLennan Boxshall
S: Hall

E: Heath Barrat O’Connell Said

Lots of potential in that forward line if we can keep them all healthy.

 

[Golumless]

My own version:

FB: Michalanney - Keane - Worrell
HB: Ryan - NMurray - Nankervis
C Curtin - Draper - Dowling
HF: Rachele - Fogarty - Berry
FF: Welsh- Thilthorpe - Pedlar
1R: TMurray - Soligo - Rankine
IN: Peatling - Edwards - Butts - Bond (Sholl)
EM: Cook, Schoenberg, Borlase

Good amount of talent on every line at this point. Depending on T.Murray year (and he's bulked up big-time over the off-season), it could desperately do with a ruck though

 

[NeutralFan]

Did a fun exercise and rated each player born 2000 onwards to get a list 1-18

1. Fremantle - Carried by Young, Serong, Jackson and Treacy

2. Hawthorn - Think Hawthorn's list is more well rounded but Freo's top players beat out the Hawks

3. Adelaide - Little bit surprised I rate their youth lead by Rankine and Thilthorpe

4. Gold Coast - Scary thing is this isn't even accounting for potential for guys like Lombard, Walter, Humphrey, Read

5. St Kilda - Same as Adelaide I was shocked how many Saints players make at least decent-good AFL players. Problem is they still don't have the 'superstar/s'. Might be Ross Lyon effect where he gets the best out of players when I watch

6. GWS - Green, Callaghan then a huge gap honestly

7. Port Adelaide - Butters, Rozee, Horne-Francis is ridiculous but rate the depth after for GWS a lot higher

8. North Melbourne - Ended up the same rating as Port but less top quality. Side note Paul Curtis is a little underrated

9. Sydney - You can interchange Cats and Bombers for this position. However Gulden and Warner as a pair beat out any pair from the other two teams

10. Geelong - Smith, Holmes, Henry extremely good but not better than the pair above

11. Essendon - Similar to St Kilda where I don't really see a superstar player there yet

12. Melbourne - Pickett best player then probably Windsor for mine(?) Not 100% sold on likes of Chandler, Sparrow, Rivers, van Rooyen, McVee to be more than decent best 22 players right now

13. Brisbane - Lions have the equal second least number of 25 and under players yet still end up 12th. Without whatever L. Ashcroft becomes. Headlined by Lohmann, W. Ashcroft and Morris

14. West Coast - Would be equal last without Harley Reid Needs someone to come along. I have faith that Hewett can rise, liked what I saw first year

15. Western Bulldogs - Losing Smith hurts a lot for this exercise. Carried by their forward line of Darcy, Ugle-Hagan and Weightman, minimal output everywhere else

16. Richmond - Equal most amount of 25 and under with GWS. However see absolutely no one before this previous draft that's even threatening becoming a star, maybe just a bunch of nice role players like Brown, Ross, Campbell, Banks, Rioli, Ralphsmith but at the same time I can see any of those not make it past 100 games. At least Gibcus can potentially take a key spot. That group of players is extremely worrying to me. The positive is they have 8 draftees including 6 first rounders after this year with a chance to hit and completely shoot up this list. Potential controversial Richmond rant over

17. Collingwood - Least amount of 25 and under players. Only reason they beat out Carlton is No. 35

18. Carlton - Walsh then a grand canyon sized gap to get to the likes of Cottrell, Motlop, Hollands brothers

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Did a fun exercise and rated each player born 2000 onwards to get a list 1-18

1. Fremantle - Carried by Young, Serong, Jackson and Treacy

2. Hawthorn - Think Hawthorn's list is more well rounded but Freo's top players beat out the Hawks

3. Adelaide - Little bit surprised I rate their youth lead by Rankine and Thilthorpe

4. Gold Coast - Scary thing is this isn't even accounting for potential for guys like Lombard, Walter, Humphrey, Read

5. St Kilda - Same as Adelaide I was shocked how many Saints players make at least decent-good AFL players. Problem is they still don't have the 'superstar/s'. Might be Ross Lyon effect where he gets the best out of players when I watch

6. GWS - Green, Callaghan then a huge gap honestly

7. Port Adelaide - Butters, Rozee, Horne-Francis is ridiculous but rate the depth after for GWS a lot higher

8. North Melbourne - Ended up the same rating as Port but less top quality. Side note Paul Curtis is a little underrated

9. Sydney - You can interchange Cats and Bombers for this position. However Gulden and Warner as a pair beat out any pair from the other two teams

10. Geelong - Smith, Holmes, Henry extremely good but not better than the pair above

11. Essendon - Similar to St Kilda where I don't really see a superstar player there yet

12. Melbourne - Pickett best player then probably Windsor for mine(?) Not 100% sold on likes of Chandler, Sparrow, Rivers, van Rooyen, McVee to be more than decent best 22 players right now

13. Brisbane - Lions have the equal second least number of 25 and under players yet still end up 12th. Without whatever L. Ashcroft becomes. Headlined by Lohmann, W. Ashcroft and Morris

14. West Coast - Would be equal last without Harley Reid Needs someone to come along. I have faith that Hewett can rise, liked what I saw first year

15. Western Bulldogs - Losing Smith hurts a lot for this exercise. Carried by their forward line of Darcy, Ugle-Hagan and Weightman, minimal output everywhere else

16. Richmond - Equal most amount of 25 and under with GWS. However see absolutely no one before this previous draft that's even threatening becoming a star, maybe just a bunch of nice role players like Brown, Ross, Campbell, Banks, Rioli, Ralphsmith but at the same time I can see any of those not make it past 100 games. At least Gibcus can potentially take a key spot. That group of players is extremely worrying to me. The positive is they have 8 draftees including 6 first rounders after this year with a chance to hit and completely shoot up this list. Potential controversial Richmond rant over

17. Collingwood - Least amount of 25 and under players. Only reason they beat out Carlton is No. 35

18. Carlton - Walsh then a grand canyon sized gap to get to the likes of Cottrell, Motlop, Hollands brothers

**** off NeutralFan. Until you have a club for us to laugh at you are unwelcome here. I am sick of unbiased people appearing on this site.

 

[NeutralFan]

**** off NeutralFan. Until you hav a club for us to laugh at you are unwelcome here. I am sick of unbiased people appearing on this site.

Deleting my account as we speak

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

Day, Newcombe, Weddle, MacDonald, Ginni, Watson, Massimo, Mackenzie, Dear, Ward, Maginess

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[The Nostradamus]

Did a fun exercise and rated each player born 2000 onwards to get a list 1-18

1. Fremantle - Carried by Young, Serong, Jackson and Treacy

2. Hawthorn - Think Hawthorn's list is more well rounded but Freo's top players beat out the Hawks

3. Adelaide - Little bit surprised I rate their youth lead by Rankine and Thilthorpe

4. Gold Coast - Scary thing is this isn't even accounting for potential for guys like Lombard, Walter, Humphrey, Read

5. St Kilda - Same as Adelaide I was shocked how many Saints players make at least decent-good AFL players. Problem is they still don't have the 'superstar/s'. Might be Ross Lyon effect where he gets the best out of players when I watch

6. GWS - Green, Callaghan then a huge gap honestly

7. Port Adelaide - Butters, Rozee, Horne-Francis is ridiculous but rate the depth after for GWS a lot higher

8. North Melbourne - Ended up the same rating as Port but less top quality. Side note Paul Curtis is a little underrated

9. Sydney - You can interchange Cats and Bombers for this position. However Gulden and Warner as a pair beat out any pair from the other two teams

10. Geelong - Smith, Holmes, Henry extremely good but not better than the pair above

11. Essendon - Similar to St Kilda where I don't really see a superstar player there yet

12. Melbourne - Pickett best player then probably Windsor for mine(?) Not 100% sold on likes of Chandler, Sparrow, Rivers, van Rooyen, McVee to be more than decent best 22 players right now

13. Brisbane - Lions have the equal second least number of 25 and under players yet still end up 12th. Without whatever L. Ashcroft becomes. Headlined by Lohmann, W. Ashcroft and Morris

14. West Coast - Would be equal last without Harley Reid Needs someone to come along. I have faith that Hewett can rise, liked what I saw first year

15. Western Bulldogs - Losing Smith hurts a lot for this exercise. Carried by their forward line of Darcy, Ugle-Hagan and Weightman, minimal output everywhere else

16. Richmond - Equal most amount of 25 and under with GWS. However see absolutely no one before this previous draft that's even threatening becoming a star, maybe just a bunch of nice role players like Brown, Ross, Campbell, Banks, Rioli, Ralphsmith but at the same time I can see any of those not make it past 100 games. At least Gibcus can potentially take a key spot. That group of players is extremely worrying to me. The positive is they have 8 draftees including 6 first rounders after this year with a chance to hit and completely shoot up this list. Potential controversial Richmond rant over

17. Collingwood - Least amount of 25 and under players. Only reason they beat out Carlton is No. 35

18. Carlton - Walsh then a grand canyon sized gap to get to the likes of Cottrell, Motlop, Hollands brothers

im surprised you have saints that high

Bias but i'd swap them with us