Which current coach do you dislike the most?

[longdonkey]

Stop the poll now Daddy Donuts has finally won something. Do a victory lap in your rented suit.

You're not going to win anything else.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Maybe it is Hinkley's time, but hes not a bad coach. I think hes been amazing.

Port people's confidence is wonderful, and I love our brother club, but this "Hinkley is the Problem" garbage is utterly delusional.

Port is a small club with not enough money or good enough facilities. The playing list is not the best albeit beautifully developed.

Similar profile to North, who blamed Brad Scott for failed runs. Once he left the lack of resources smashed them to the bottom.

Of course if Port fall when Ken leaves he can be blamed for that I guess.

Calling Port a small club with no money or good facilities (which I think is completely untrue btw) doesn't add any credence to the fact you think Hinkley is an amazing coach who Port fans should consider the Grand Poo Bah.

I feel like you are being (probably unintentionally) patronising and condescending towards Port Adelaide (and indeed North Melbourne) supporters.

 

[Freomaniac]

Maybe it is Hinkley's time, but hes not a bad coach. I think hes been amazing.

Port people's confidence is wonderful, and I love our brother club, but this "Hinkley is the Problem" garbage is utterly delusional.

Port is a small club with not enough money or good enough facilities. The playing list is not the best albeit beautifully developed.

Similar profile to North, who blamed Brad Scott for failed runs. Once he left the lack of resources smashed them to the bottom.

Of course if Port fall when Ken leaves he can be blamed for that I guess.

I look back at Brad Scott when he was coach at North for 10 seasons from 2010-19, I don't think he was a bad coach.

North Melbourne fans will have mixed views on him.

But Brad Scott wasn't an elite coach, but he didn't have a lot of money or resources either.

The playing list was solid. Not bottom 6 standard but not too 4 quality either.

Mind you, Brad Scott got North Melbourne to preliminary finals in 2014-5 from 5th to 8th. That means winning 2 finals

 

[Freomaniac]

Calling Port a small club with no money or good facilities (which I think is completely untrue btw) doesn't add any credence to the fact you think Hinkley is an amazing coach who Port fans should consider the Grand Poo Bah.

I feel like you are being (probably unintentionally) patronising and condescending towards Port Adelaide (and indeed North Melbourne) supporters.

I agree. Port are not a small club. They are in the middle.... Fan base wise and membership wise.

If this was 2008-12 , then I would say they would have a smaller fan base

For all the bashing Ken Hinkley has had, the bloke has won 5 finals. Not many coaches in the last 10-12 seasons has won that amount of finals

 

[Freomaniac]

Hopefully at the Crows

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You want Ken Hinkley at the crows? LoL

You want the crows to "suffer" like your team has had in the last 10 seasons under Hinkley?

He won't last 10 seasons under the crows management.

Crows from 1991-2014 have a history of sacking coaches for missing finals 2 seasons in a row.

So had the port Adelaide board been as ruthlessly nasty like the crows, Hinkley would of been sacked at the end of 2016

 

[Cyclops]

Sure.

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Nice to meet you, Im Cyclops.

This is utter garbage.

And this is Cyclops,, nice to meet you.

Who is responsible for developing the list? Are you suggesting we should sack Davies or Cripps? The same group of blokes have been there close to a decade at all senior administrative levels so who is at fault?

Clearly you know more about it than me, I'm just speaking as a baffled oitsider., and j dont get the hate Hinkley gets.

I think Port has refused to dive deep for multiple years high draft picks and rarely features in the mega Buddy/Danger tier trades,yet they regularly present. JHF was great get, biggest recruit since, who? Wanganeen?

Vicbias in the draw, (I guess SANFL bias toward the Crows too) yet this list (like ours) finished higher than their quality suggests. And they've done it repeatedly.

This year Dixon was on his last legs, ditto the rucks. You still finished top 4.

I feel like Port gets no advantages yet competes. That's partly healthy culture, and partly good leadership. I can accept Koch as a sensible money man but he's not the footy leader. Clearly Davies and Cripps are doing their jobs well but surely credit goes to the coaches, and especially the head coach.

My impression when we play Port is Hinkley stretches Fly. Usually it's us doing the stretching. Only Fagan gives us more tactical trouble.

 

[longdonkey]

Sure.

Nice to meet you, Im Cyclops.

And this is Cyclops,, nice to meet you.


Clearly you know more about it than me, I'm just speaking as a baffled oitsider., and j dont get the hate Hinkley gets.

I think Port has refused to dive deep for multiple years high draft picks and rarely features in the mega Buddy/Danger tier trades,yet they regularly present. JHF was great get, biggest recruit since, who? Wanganeen?

Vicbias in the draw, (I guess SANFL bias toward the Crows too) yet this list (like ours) finished higher than their quality suggests. And they've done it repeatedly.

This year Dixon was on his last legs, ditto the rucks. You still finished top 4.

I feel like Port gets no advantages yet competes. That's partly healthy culture, and partly good leadership. I can accept Koch as a sensible money man but he's not the footy leader. Clearly Davies and Cripps are doing their jobs well but surely credit goes to the coaches, and especially the head coach.

My impression when we play Port is Hinkley stretches Fly. Usually it's us doing the stretching. Only Fagan gives us more tactical trouble.

So 2 of the best midfields in the comp give you tactical problems - really and its the coaching, not the quality of players. Hmmmm.

 

[Del165198]

Sure.

Nice to meet you, Im Cyclops.

And this is Cyclops,, nice to meet you.


Clearly you know more about it than me, I'm just speaking as a baffled oitsider., and j dont get the hate Hinkley gets.

I think Port has refused to dive deep for multiple years high draft picks and rarely features in the mega Buddy/Danger tier trades,yet they regularly present. JHF was great get, biggest recruit since, who? Wanganeen?

Vicbias in the draw, (I guess SANFL bias toward the Crows too) yet this list (like ours) finished higher than their quality suggests. And they've done it repeatedly.

This year Dixon was on his last legs, ditto the rucks. You still finished top 4.

I feel like Port gets no advantages yet competes. That's partly healthy culture, and partly good leadership. I can accept Koch as a sensible money man but he's not the footy leader. Clearly Davies and Cripps are doing their jobs well but surely credit goes to the coaches, and especially the head coach.

My impression when we play Port is Hinkley stretches Fly. Usually it's us doing the stretching. Only Fagan gives us more tactical trouble.

Robbie Gray was an AFL MVP.
Chad Wingard as at one time the most exciting young player in the comp.
Ollie Wines is a Brownlow medallist.
Travis Boak is 21st all time for Brownlow votes.
Zac Butters and Connor Rozee are 2 of the best mids of the comp.
Dixon should be better than he is due to a career of terrible forward structure and coaching.
We've had defenders who while not being stars, except maybe Aliir have been serviceable enough to do a job.

I don't buy the poor list crap. Compare it to Brad Scott's list at North and ours has been miles better.

It's coaching to prioritise regular season wins and a game plan that doesn't pass finals heat.

This year he literally had 2 of the best 5 mids in the comp, and couldn't win a final, or even get close. Flogged in both games.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Sure.

Nice to meet you, Im Cyclops.

And this is Cyclops,, nice to meet you.


Clearly you know more about it than me, I'm just speaking as a baffled oitsider., and j dont get the hate Hinkley gets.

I think Port has refused to dive deep for multiple years high draft picks and rarely features in the mega Buddy/Danger tier trades,yet they regularly present. JHF was great get, biggest recruit since, who? Wanganeen?

Vicbias in the draw, (I guess SANFL bias toward the Crows too) yet this list (like ours) finished higher than their quality suggests. And they've done it repeatedly.

This year Dixon was on his last legs, ditto the rucks. You still finished top 4.

I feel like Port gets no advantages yet competes. That's partly healthy culture, and partly good leadership. I can accept Koch as a sensible money man but he's not the footy leader. Clearly Davies and Cripps are doing their jobs well but surely credit goes to the coaches, and especially the head coach.

My impression when we play Port is Hinkley stretches Fly. Usually it's us doing the stretching. Only Fagan gives us more tactical trouble.

My point is if you have a new coach, a new director of football and list managers, then you can look at a coach and go... "its the lists fault, its just not good enough". Nobody is blaming Nicks or Mitchell for taking over basketcase clubs so early on for example, they just want to see progress.

When the same blokes have been there a decade, and the most responsible bloke has been there 11 years, any issues with the list are on him and them.

Example: "But Port dont have a ruck....."

Why?

We had Ladhams and let him loose for nothing because he didnt want to murder dogs, we have Dixon but for some reason he wants to be a forward and gets to call the shots, we have Hayes but never backed him in enough to develop him, we had Frampton but never gave him a chance, we had Lycett but we ran him in to the ground with poor management, we had many opportunities to see these problems coming and recruit blokes like Naismith. All these things are on the selection panel and head coach.

I could easily make a similar post about our defensive stocks. In fact tell me one tall thats been developed at Port in the last 11 years that isnt Todd Marshall. Hinkley has no foresight, no ability to plan, no strategic nous to develop a plan b and c, no understanding of the value of different player roles beyond "More pressure acts! Work harderer!"

 

[Del165198]

I agree. Port are not a small club. They are in the middle.... Fan base wise and membership wise.

If this was 2008-12 , then I would say they would have a smaller fan base

For all the bashing Ken Hinkley has had, the bloke has won 5 finals. Not many coaches in the last 10-12 seasons has won that amount of finals

Adam Kingsley in 9 months of being a coach has won as many finals as ken has in the last 9 years.

The same Adam Kingsley who Korn canes said last year "who would ya rather have? Ken Hinkley or pffffrt Adam Kingsley lol"

 

[Reg Grundy35]

Goodwin projects a rather obnoxious personality. Could be wrong about him but he'll do

 

[Pistol Night]

Adam Kingsley in 9 months of being a coach has won as many finals as ken has in the last 9 years.

The same Adam Kingsley who Korn canes said last year "who would ya rather have? Ken Hinkley or pffffrt Adam Kingsley lol"

Coaching or arm wrestling im going with Kinga

 

[Stax on the mill]

Goodwin projects a rather obnoxious personality. Could be wrong about him but he'll do

No, your first impression was correct. Accurate character assessment and choice.

 

[Seattle Mariners]

No, your first impression was correct. Accurate character assessment and choice.

Wow shocking! A couple of Collingwood supporters being negative to Melbourne.
Didn’t see that coming.

Having said that, I can’t stand Goodwin and I‘m a Melbourne supporter.

 

[JimmyBC]

I agree. Port are not a small club. They are in the middle.... Fan base wise and membership wise.

If this was 2008-12 , then I would say they would have a smaller fan base

For all the bashing Ken Hinkley has had, the bloke has won 5 finals. Not many coaches in the last 10-12 seasons has won that amount of finals

We always will be in the middle with Koch, Richardson & Hinkley driving the bus.

2008-12 was dire, however Football Park was a dated on the nose wasteland by that time it's all connected.

He's won two finals in the last nine years it's putrid don't kid yourself.

 

[edgie]

Stop the poll now Daddy Donuts has finally won something. Do a victory lap in your rented suit.

You're not going to win anything else.

His rented cult leader black on black suit that he wore to the BnF

 

[EskimoPAFC]

We always will be in the middle with Koch, Richardson & Hinkley driving the bus.

2008-12 was dire, however Football Park was a dated on the nose wasteland by that time it's all connected.

He's won two finals in the last nine years it's putrid don't kid yourself.

Yeah I don't think many Port supporters would question that Hinkley was at minimum a "good" coach in 2013 and 2014 and the three finals we won in those years were very good - beating Collingwood and pushing the Cats in 2013 and then smashing Richmond, beating Fremantle in Perth and getting within a bees dick of premier Hawthorn in a prelim in 2014.

The question isn't whether those years were coached well or not, but more how long can a bloke use those close but no cigar seasons to pad his record a decade after they've happened. We have not won a knockout final or big, season-defining game since 2014, which was 9 years ago. Nothing more really needs to be said.

 

[Cyclops]

My point is if you have a new coach, a new director of football and list managers, then you can look at a coach and go... "its the lists fault, its just not good enough". Nobody is blaming Nicks or Mitchell for taking over basketcase clubs so early on for example, they just want to see progress.

When the same blokes have been there a decade, and the most responsible bloke has been there 11 years, any issues with the list are on him and them.

Example: "But Port dont have a ruck....."

Why?

We had Ladhams and let him loose for nothing because he didnt want to murder dogs, we have Dixon but for some reason he wants to be a forward and gets to call the shots, we have Hayes but never backed him in enough to develop him, we had Frampton but never gave him a chance, we had Lycett but we ran him in to the ground with poor management, we had many opportunities to see these problems coming and recruit blokes like Naismith. All these things are on the selection panel and head coach.

I could easily make a similar post about our defensive stocks. In fact tell me one tall thats been developed at Port in the last 11 years that isnt Todd Marshall. Hinkley has no foresight, no ability to plan, no strategic nous to develop a plan b and c, no understanding of the value of different player roles beyond "More pressure acts! Work harderer!"

Yeah you explain it well, and its reasonable put that way. It may be his time, although I think he did give it a good shake.

The coach does carry the can for his group, hopefully he calls the shots that get him hired or fired.

I still have Port top 4 next year, maybe I have overestimated Ken.

 

[Schulzenfest]

For all the bashing Ken Hinkley has had, the bloke has won 5 finals. Not many coaches in the last 10-12 seasons has won that amount of finals

That's because most coaches would get sacked after going five years in a row without a finals win before they get a chance to win any more. Not our Kenny though.

 

[Rod Stroker]

I don't get the Kenny hate. He's a decent coach with a good record and seems like an alright bloke. Not his fault if the Port leadership keep retaining his services.

 

[arrowman]

Not many coaches in the last 10-12 seasons has won that amount of finals

How many of those coaches kept their jobs for 11 years, then got a 2 year extension?

 

[Freomaniac]

That's because most coaches would get sacked after going five years in a row without a finals win before they get a chance to win any more. Not our Kenny though.

Well you have a point....

Damien Hardwicks years from 2010-16 was interesting.

Didnt make finals in 2010-12. Mind you they were bottom 2 in 2010, 12th or 13th in 2011 with 8 wins, 1 draw and 13 losses, then 12th with 10 wins, 1 draw and 11 losses. So yeah Slow gradual improvement.

Made finals in 2013-15. Elim final loss in 2013 vs Carlton at the mcg. Elim final loss in 2014 vs Port in Adelaide, Elim final loss in 2015 vs North.

Of those 3 elim finals, you can make an argument Richmond should of beaten either carlton or North or Both. they were never gonna beat Port in 2014.

2016 the tigers had a bad year and nearly sacked Hardwick. 2017, they beat the crows to win a flag.

 

[JimmyBC]

I don't know how anyone can do the mental gymnastics on Hinkley's tenure he is the longest serving coach at one club to not make a GF in history lol not one of you would want him near your club & we are supposed to be what? grateful?

The guy is a complete loser when it matters & always will be.

 

[Freomaniac]

I don't get the Kenny hate. He's a decent coach with a good record and seems like an alright bloke. Not his fault if the Port leadership keep retaining his services.

I dont get it either. Only knock on him was not getting a grand final at Port.

Its like the Brad Scott situation at North Melbourne. You would get mixed views about him in his North Melbourne coaching stint from 2010-2019. You would be no exception.

4 finals wins in 10 seasons isnt too bad. North didnt finish top 4 ladder wise in those 10 seasons. yet made prelim finals in 2014- and 2015. North won 2 finals in 2014 and 2 finals in 2015 to make a prelim.

 

[Freomaniac]

So Hinkley has delivered us amongst the lofty heights of North. What a guy.

According to the AFL, this is equalization mate. lol

North are struggling, won 12 games and a draw from 2020-23. So their reward is priority picks.

Port are decent but are hamstrung with Ken Hinkleys coaching.

According to North fans, this is fair and reasonable. lol