Which side is closer to a premiership - Carlton or Essendon?

[CarmenSandiego]

How about now?
Carlton are meant to be in a premiership window while Essendon are meant to be a middle of the road side, yet Essendon are higher on the ladder.

It’s May..

 

[Yoda_]

Perhaps you should’ve finished year 12, as a closer look will reveal that we’re on the same amount of wins and that Carlton have a better percentage.

but isn't ladder position the truest indicator of how a team is travelling?

 

[CarmenSandiego]

Essendon.

Carlton heavily reliant on Curnow to make it through to a grand final.

Much more scope for improvement in the Bombers in the coming years.

Do you ever post about your own club?

How’d your Thursday night prediction go? Cats only 4 points ahead of blues, fairly embarrassing.

 

[Franc de Borges]

but isn't ladder position the truest indicator of how a team is travelling?

Not without context, which obviously includes the fixture, and certainly not after Round 9.

Good win today.

 

[Yoda_]

Not without context, which obviously includes the fixture, and certainly not after Round 9.

Good win today.

clearly im being facetious. Round 13 is going to be HUGEEE!!!!

 

[Franc de Borges]

clearly im being facetious. Round 13 is going to be HUGEEE!!!!

I’m most interested in discovering whether Harry and Ben are really the same person.

 

[T2B_]

I’m most interested in discovering whether Harry and Ben are really the same person.

That's an interesting one, how they will avoid playing in the same game this time

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Carlton

Just stupid to say otherwise

We are a lot younger. Our time will come, but not now

 

[Ambrosia]

Even with my Essendon hat on it’s hard to say that Carlton don’t have the edge top end talent wise which is in my opinion more important than ever when winning a premiership.

Would give us the edge as far as potential young top end talent though but to get Curnow type outcomes is rare

 

[boncer34]

And who takes Mckay? Laverde? Cox?

Who held him to 1 goal last year?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Who held him to 1 goal last year?

With how he was kicking at the time id say probably himself lmao

 

[boncer34]

With how he was kicking at the time id say probably himself lmao

Of course you would

 

[JayJ20]

It's still Carlton. Their window is now and they have a mature side compared to Essendon.

 

[JayJ20]

I mean, they need to prove they can win a final first.

Unlike previous years where we played soft and uncontested football, our brand of pressure football is perfect for finals so this is the best chance we've had in 20 years. I finally like our midfield mix and clearance game, but our foot skills are still not good enough for the contenders so maybe not this year.

 

[Engimal v3]

Carlton, as they aren't Essendon

 

[JayJ20]

People were calling Carlton the real deal after beating the Giants at Docklands.
Essendon beat the Giants at Docklands and they get discredited for it.

They beat GWS without Coniglio and Sam Taylor. We beat a near full strength GWS.

Let's not knee jerk any reactions.
Pies finished top 4 in 2022 with a low percentage of 104.3%.
Bombers aren't anywhere near what the Pies were in 2022.

Obviously this won't be their percentage at the end of the year and anything can happen between now and then.
GWS are a good scalp, but their other wins have been bottom sides in Hawks and Eagles, then inconsistent sides like Dogs, Saints and Crows and a draw.
They got thumped by Port and Swans.
Jury is still out.

Carlton beat GWS without Coniglio and Taylor by 19.
Essendon beat them near full-strength by 20.

Carlton lost to Adelaide at home. Essendon beat Adelaide away the next week.

Essendon drew to Collingwood and smashed their midfield. Carlton lost to Collingwood the next week.

And we weren't really smashed by Sydney. In fact, we smashed their midfield, but they are obviously premiership contenders for a reason. We are also a better team now than we were in the first couple of rounds.

I agree that we have a long way to go given what happened last year, but let's be honest. Carlton and Essendon have been pretty even based on form this year.

 

[Worm4]

It's still Carlton. Their window is now and they have a mature side compared to Essendon.

Essendon are close. They are going very , very well. Keep Draper away from 1st ruck coz Goldy just gives the midfield a lot better service in my opinion . Plus throw in McKay and the missing pieces are eradicated. They've ticked a lot of boxes.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Let's not knee jerk any reactions.
Pies finished top 4 in 2022 with a low percentage of 104.3%.
Bombers aren't anywhere near what the Pies were in 2022.

Obviously this won't be their percentage at the end of the year and anything can happen between now and then.
GWS are a good scalp, but their other wins have been bottom sides in Hawks and Eagles, then inconsistent sides like Dogs, Saints and Crows and a draw.
They got thumped by Port and Swans.
Jury is still out.

i don't disagree with the general message but thumped by Swans?

what?

we lost 101-131.............

 

[Worm4]

It's still Carlton. Their window is now and they have a mature side compared to Essendon.

Carlton have too many injuries. The replacements fill barely manage to fill holes on a weekly basis. We have players who spend half a season not playing due to hamstring tightness. A lot of questions need to be asked about the amount of injuries we continue to have had for the past 3 seasons and until that list is minimised, the window simply isn't there

 

[NoWuckingFurries]

Carlton easily. We're still yet to play Geelong, Melbourne and Carlton. That will show we're probably in the 8-5th zone (assuming we don't fade out again like every year)

 

[My Tilly]

Do you ever post about your own club?

How’d your Thursday night prediction go? Cats only 4 points ahead of blues, fairly embarrassing.

Yep, had a feeling it would be a close game and tipped Cats to just to get it done in the last quarter. We in a form slump right now but again, back to Essendon v Carlton.

Someone said who stops McKay, I don't know how many times I've now had to say it but McKay is not the player teams will fret about during the week. In fact, you will see they are happy to let him get his just as long as Curnow is taken out of the game. McKay is not a match winner.

 

[hoddo22]

It's still Carlton. Their window is now and they have a mature side compared to Essendon.

I think this is a bit of a fallacy. Carlton aren't that much older than the Bombers and some weeks, the team that plays is younger than Essendon's.

This may shock many, but for the majority of this season, Essendon's 23 have been in the oldest half of the league. They've been older than all of their opponents bar the Pies and the Bulldogs.

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[carnthedons]

I think this is a bit of a fallacy. Carlton aren't that much older than the Bombers and some weeks, the team that plays is younger than Essendon's.

This may shock many, but for the majority of this season, Essendon's 23 have been in the oldest half of the league. They've been older than all of their opponents bar the Pies and the Bulldogs.

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Significantly skewed by a geriatric ruckman no doubt

 

[Foucault1989]

Carlton easily. We're still yet to play Geelong, Melbourne and Carlton. That will show we're probably in the 8-5th zone (assuming we don't fade out again like every year)

I wouldn't say easily. Essendon are pretty good at the moment and we are not playing great. I think it'll be a good game when we play. I'm certainly not confident going into a game against Essendon at the moment. Brad Scott has got you guys playing much tougher footy.

 

[hoddo22]

Significantly skewed by a geriatric ruckman no doubt

Ok. I'll exclude him to make you feel better.

Also he has play out the season now. He's playing well though. He'd better because there's nothing behind him.

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