Which team out of Adelaide, North and Hawthorn has the better youth?

[Danger in Texas]

Why don’t you read back why he’s being discussed if you’re so confused.

You reckon Nash would finish 3rd in the Crows B&F? Ahead of Tex and Rankine?

 

[Eddie Murphy]

Why don’t you read back why he’s being discussed if you’re so confused.

What is confusing is why you suddenly mention “midfielders 25 and under” as if it serves any purpose other than filter out three crows midfielders who are significantly better than Nash. Nash isn’t young, his age is irrelevant. On top of that, there are youth prospects I’d rather give midfield time to than Nash. The idea we’re creaming for him is downright comedy.

 

[krrzr]

You must be part of the Crows list management team, with such a disregard for big bodied mids.

Nash is 198cm.

Disregard? We've added Dawson (191cm) into the midfield and drafted Dowling (187cm) Curtin (197cm) and Edwards (191cm) in the past 12 months

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Adelaide is the only team out of the three that is going to be in finals contention next season, so I am still not sure why they should be in this discussion anymore.

Going to take a couple more years of Clarko to instill a winning culture and mindset in North's young and talented core, and Hawthorn will improve next season, I think finishing around 10th or 11th on the ladder is a reasonable expectation.

 

[naysayer]

Aaaaaaand the winner of the 2023 AFL Best Youf award is.....

"Nobody cares because it's irrelevant to winning premierships"! Wow! They win every year!

 

[Caligo]

He was good but didn't even win his own clubs best and fairest
And they finished almost bottom
Which is problematic

Bnf often gives weird results. You don't think he was absolutely immense though?

 

[WillHayward]

Everyone thought it was North 2 years ago. The problem is they still have to develop all this talent which has been an issue at North

True.
"On paper" doesn't count for much...

 

[WillHayward]

Bnf often gives weird results. You don't think he was absolutely immense though?

Yep
Ridiculous he didn't win b and f.

Felt like they rigged it to keep up the fans "we have the best yoof ever" fantasies

 

[Caligo]

Yep
Ridiculous he didn't win b and f.

Felt like they rigged it to keep up the fans "we have the best yoof ever" fantasies

Bnf also measures lots of stuff we as basic fans aren't aware of. But gosh I was impressed by him. And kpf often don't even peak at his age.

 

[the big lebowski]

What a strange turn this thread has taken when hawks fans are talking up Nick larkey

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Nick Larkey

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3.9

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3.3

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1.4

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[Judd2Sewell]

What a strange turn this thread has taken when hawks fans are talking up Nick larkey.

Larkey is a gun. Why wouldn't any poster talk him up, irrespective of who they follow?

 

[Judd2Sewell]

We keep spending our first picks on forwards or tall defenders when premium mids have been our obvious weakness for ages.

Do you reckon Curtin has been picked to play as a midfielder, or as a defender? I'm presuming the former.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

You reckon Nash would finish 3rd in the Crows B&F? Ahead of Tex and Rankine?

Walker, unlikely. It would depend on how the votes are considered. Nash was able to go head to head with players like Bontempelli and beat him, crows might not evaluate players like that.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

What is confusing is why you suddenly mention “midfielders 25 and under” as if it serves any purpose other than filter out three crows midfielders who are significantly better than Nash. Nash isn’t young, his age is irrelevant. On top of that, there are youth prospects I’d rather give midfield time to than Nash. The idea we’re creaming for him is downright comedy.

The thread is about youth and a crow was potting Nash, so of course I’d reference his age and younger.

 

[1970crow]

Do you reckon Curtin has been picked to play as a midfielder, or as a defender? I'm presuming the former.

There’s a lot of wing and prayer about it if that’s what we’ve done.

 

[Caligo]

What a strange turn this thread has taken when hawks fans are talking up Nick larkey.

When the facts change so do my opinions.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Further to above to compare
Hawks 9 over 26 years of age
North 5 over 26
Crows 11 over 26

having a mixed demographic helps. Sydney’s mini rebuild is an example of the latter. For example Kennedy was a spent force by end of 21 but was kept on another year. Possible this was helpful to Gulden, Campbell, Warmer, Blakey and co.

nmfc may have more youngsters than Adelaide or Hawthorn but are they any good and if yes, will they stay? Having some older quality experienced players helps. Again but Shiels and Larkey aside, the others are not much chop. It was a pity they could not accommodate Goldy.

Think the Hawks were smart getting Gunston back to add quality experience and mentoring to their team. Will also give without fear or favour views to the Coach and assistants. Sicily is a terrific player but am not sure having a bag of door knobs as skipper sends the right message or helps their youngsters.

I am no big wrap for Tex and Sloane has entered Cotchin limping to retirement, but both have probably influenced development of the younger players.

I still have the Crows in front, just ahead of the Hawks.

In some ways it was telling Adelaide backed their system and took Curtin in the draft. He is obviously a terrific prospect. Seems Clarko and nmfc put a lot of time into the lad but finally accepted he would not stay.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

having a mixed demographic helps. Sydney’s mini rebuild is an example of the latter. For example Kennedy was a spent force by end of 21 but was kept on another year. Possible this was helpful to Gulden, Campbell, Warmer, Blakey and co.

nmfc may have more youngsters than Adelaide or Hawthorn but are they any good and if yes, will they stay? Having some older quality experienced players helps. Again but Shiels and Larkey aside, the others are not much chop. It was a pity they could not accommodate Goldy.

Think the Hawks were smart getting Gunston back to add quality experience and mentoring to their team. Will also give without fear or favour views to the Coach and assistants. Sicily is a terrific player but am not sure having a bag of door knobs as skipper sends the right message or helps their youngsters.

I am no big wrap for Tex and Sloane has entered Cotchin limping to retirement, but both have probably influenced development of the younger players.

I still have the Crows in front, just ahead of the Hawks.

In some ways it was telling Adelaide backed their system and took Curtin in the draft. He is obviously a terrific prospect. Seems Clarko and nmfc put a lot of time into the lad but finally accepted he would not stay.

Or North were simply trying to talk Curtin up to try make the Eagles panic/blink and trade pick 1 to them ?

NMFC have the 2nd best/most talented kid in the draft anyway in McKercher.

I don't know if they should have taken Duursma, but time will tell.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Or North were simply trying to talk Curtin up to try make the Eagles panic/blink and trade pick 1 to them ?

NMFC have the 2nd best/most talented kid in the draft anyway in McKercher.

I don't know if they should have taken Duursma, but time will tell.

McKercher does look good. Whether he turns into an A grader and stays, remains to be seen.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

McKercher does look good. Whether he turns into an A grader and stays, remains to be seen.

If Sheezel can in his first season at a struggling North, LDU has and Wardlaw well on his way, i see why no reason why he won't at Arden St either.

Whether North can keep him from the clutches of Tassie once they enter the AFL is another story altogether

North definitely have more A grade young talent than Hawthorn though, but that is also because they have had access to better draft picks as well.

 

[Engimal v3]

North

Might have to change my username to Nostradamus

 

[The Nostradamus]

Might have to change my username to Nostradamus

You can be my other disciple

 

[Engimal v3]

You can be my other disciple

I assume the other is Nostradumbass

 

[The Nostradamus]

I assume the other is Nostradumbass

That one is all yours

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

What Hawthorn have done better than the Crows or North is find and develop players outside from the first draft and used their fine VFL/reserves program at Box Hill.

That means they will have a pretty deep list once they are ready to contend (fix up their KPP holes)

That approach probably is the slower 'burn' but I also think it means they will a more resilient team with also a strong work rate and culture (those later two qualifies Clarko really needs to instill into North)