Who is the best Key Defender of the 21st Century?

[Cleansweep17]

Only because you keep asking. This spectacular mark and booming 50 metre goal came at a vital moment in a classic final. It capped off a great performance that sent Geelong on their 4th premiership run in 16 years.

4 in 16 is cute let me know when you beat 5 in 14. We just keep beating you again and again it’s exhausting.

 

[Captain_Bender]

Only because you keep asking. This spectacular mark and booming 50 metre goal came at a vital moment in a classic final. It capped off a great performance that sent Geelong on their 4th premiership run in 16 years.

We're not talking about playing a mediocre Collingwood side here aren't we

 

[Captain_Bender]

And the best part is how he triggers you. As does Hawkins. Is there a reason Duncan misses out on the love? He was Geelong's best ball user that year (and every year) after all.

Duncan has never even made the All Australian squad, most people would say who? When he is brought up

 

[Mr Meow]

4 in 16 is cute let me know when you beat 5 in 14. We just keep beating you again and again it’s exhausting.

Where were you when that happened?

 

[Fadge]

I really need to better understand when All-Australian selections matter, and when they don't...

 

[Fadge]

Where were you when that happened?

This will be good.

 

[Cleansweep17]

Where were you when that happened?

In my dads left nut

 

[Mr Meow]

We're not talking about playing a mediocre Collingwood side here aren't we

They were a better side than any Richmond beat from their 3 flags this century. Their grand final side a year later pretty much just had Hill and Mitchell added.

 

[Mr Meow]

In my dads left nut

You enjoyed it then.

Thank god you weren't around from the mid 80s through to 2016.

 

[Fadge]

We're not talking about playing a mediocre Collingwood side here aren't we

I wouldn't say mediocre, but it was only the 4th best Collingwood side of the past 15 seasons.

For reference, the 2018 version that pantsed Richmond in 2018 comes in at #7.

 

[Captain_Bender]

They were a better side than any Richmond beat from their 3 flags this century. Their grand final side a year later pretty much just had Hill and Mitchell added.

Which shows that 2022 and 2023 were weak years

 

[Mr Meow]

Duncan has never even made the All Australian squad, most people would say who? When he is brought up

He was our best finals player a year later in 2020. Yet again your footy knowledge has sizeable limitations.

 

[Captain_Bender]

He was our best finals player a year later in 2020. Yet again your footy knowledge has sizeable limitations.

And yet with superstars such as Rohan and Duncan Geelong still couldn't beat Richmond in 2020

 

[Cleansweep17]

You enjoyed it then.

Thank god you weren't around from the mid 80s through to 2016.

You’re right it’s a shame. I would’ve like to see Geelong choke year after year after year. I would pay money to hear GAS norm smith speech live in person. What a loser.

 

[Mr Meow]

You’re right it’s a shame. I would’ve like to see Geelong choke year after year after year. I would pay money to hear GAS norm smith speech live in person. What a loser.

Where were you mid 80s through 2016?

 

[Mr Meow]

And yet with superstars such as Rohan and Duncan Geelong still couldn't beat Richmond in 2020

Different game, different circumstances. Geelong 2020 were a weaker side. Finished 4th compared to 1st in H&A for starters. And missing a top 5 Brownlow player in Kelly. Nowhere near the same level of first half scoring shot dominance.

It doesn't surprise me that you know none of these things.

 

[Mr Meow]

To get the thread back on track, even Gary Rohan

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Gary Rohan

Age

33

Ht

189cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.6

2star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.5

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.8

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.8

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

4.2

5star

G

1.2

4star

has had more strong finals than Alex Rance

Alex Rance

Age

34

Ht

194cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

8.9

3star

HB

7.7

5star

M

5.7

5star

T

2.4

4star

MG

226.9

3star

No current season stats available

D

17.0

5star

K

5.8

3star

HB

11.2

5star

M

5.0

5star

T

3.6

5star

.

Rance conceded 2 goals/assists or less in just 3 finals.

Rohan has had 3 goals/assists or more in 6 finals. So Rohan had twice as many finals where he had well above his season scoring average than Rance had finals of "blunting" his opponent.

 

[STPer18]

Gary 'REDEEMED' Rohan. Could've taken the easy option aka retire in disgrace like Rance after a putrid finals display, but instead he rose to the challenge and played a key role in Geelong's fourth 21st century flag. I'm inspired just thinking about it.

 

[Cleansweep17]

Where were you mid 80s through 2016?

I was born in mid 90s

 

[Cleansweep17]

To get the thread back on track, even Gary Rohan

23

Gary Rohan

Age

33

Ht

189cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.6

2star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.5

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.8

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.3

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.8

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

4.2

5star

G

1.2

4star

has had more strong finals than Alex Rance

Alex Rance

Age

34

Ht

194cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

8.9

3star

HB

7.7

5star

M

5.7

5star

T

2.4

4star

MG

226.9

3star

No current season stats available

D

17.0

5star

K

5.8

3star

HB

11.2

5star

M

5.0

5star

T

3.6

5star

.

Rance conceded 2 goals/assists or less in just 3 finals.

Rohan has had 3 goals/assists or more in 6 finals. So Rohan had twice as many finals where he had well above his season scoring average than Rance had finals of "blunting" his opponent.

I don’t think it’s a good idea to bring up the importance of finals and lecture to Richmond supporters about it when we have the two greatest finals players in the history of the game in KB and Dusty

 

[Mr Meow]

I was born in mid 90s

Okay that actually makes sense why you'd have a chip on your shoulder even after 3 recent flags.

Probably too young to even remember the only winning final before 2017 (in your 20s). The famous 2007 game (kick starting a dynasty) a prominent childhood memory. By mid 20s wondering if another 30 plus year period of irrelevancy is ahead.

With that in mind I apologise for teasing you.

 

[Mr Meow]

I don’t think it’s a good idea to bring up the importance of finals and lecture to Richmond supporters about it when we have the two greatest finals players in the history of the game in KB and Dusty

Rohan > Rance for finals performances though.

 

[Cleansweep17]

Rohan > Rance for finals performances though.

Which means? Keep going you’re almost there

 

[Captain_Bender]

Rohan > Rance for finals performances though.

Leon Davis medalist Gary Rohan

 

[Cleansweep17]

Okay that actually makes sense why you'd have a chip on your shoulder even after 3 recent flags.

Probably too young to even remember the only winning final before 2017 (in your 20s). The famous 2007 game (kick starting a dynasty) a prominent childhood memory. By mid 20s wondering if another 30 plus year period of irrelevancy is ahead.

With that in mind I apologise for teasing you.

All g I like the banter. It’s one of the best things about footy. Hence the endless shitfights we all partake in

Well unless you’re Phatboy