Banter Who will be better in 2025, Carlton or Collingwood? Part 3

[South of the Yarra]

Where did Sydney build the core of their current list?

Heeney
Gulden
McCartin
Mills
Warner
McDonald
Amartey
Blakey
McInerny
Papley
Rowbottom

Were they looking to the future when they drafted all these blokes?

Thanks for proving our point. Another list not good enough to win a flag.

 

[Robertio]

But how often to Carlton have the opportunity to pick up these 'dual All-Australians that move clubs each year'?

Carlton are hitting the draft because they have no alternate option.

Where did you read that?

 

[Robertio]

I must have missed the 'facts' you've been posting...

Because here are the 'facts' as I understand them:
1. Houston met with Voss during the season and there was mutual interest re:Houston playing at Carlton;
2. Carlton were in the box seat to pick up Houston after he confirmed he was no longer interested in playing for Melbourne;
3. Collingwood swooped in and picked him up for around the same trade capital as Carlton had available.
4. There is no superstar at pick 3 (or 4) who will be a game changer in the short term.
5. Carlton's best players are in their prime right now, yet they're still a fair way off the better teams in the competition. If they want to contend for premierships, they need to improve their list immediately. Not plateau or go backwards as it appears they have done going into 2025.

So, how did Houston land at Collingwood again?

Carlton rejected him.

 

[Robertio]

Thanks for proving our point. Another list not good enough to win a flag.

Where did the Pies list finish in 2024? I'll give you a hint

 

[South of the Yarra]

Where did the Pies list finish in 2024? I'll give you a hint

Oh gee, you got me there. How could I possibly cope with a sledge that brutal.

 

[Robertio]

Oh gee, you got me there. How could I possibly cope with a sledge that brutal.

Just do what you blokes normally do and mention spoons and the last two decades because that's all you have.

 

[South of the Yarra]

Just do what you blokes normally do and mention spoons and the last two decades because that's all you have.

Nah happy with our Premierships in the last 14 years thanks.

 

[South of the Yarra]

Carlton rejected him.

Nope Carlton couldn’t get the job done.

Houston, who was one of the most highly sought-after players this trade period, opened up about his desire to reunite with Voss, who he had previously played under at Port Adelaide when Voss was an assistant coach. We had some open conversations, I have a good relationship with him [Voss], and I wanted to play for him, and he wanted to have me in the team,” Houston told 3AW.
‘It didn't look throughout the whole time like the Blues could get the job done and it sort of chopped and changed a bit. In the end, it was the Pies’

 

[Robertio]

Nah happy with our Premierships in the last 14 years thanks.

That was before moving to Mexico though.

 

[Robertio]

Nope Carlton couldn’t get the job done.

Houston, who was one of the most highly sought-after players this trade period, opened up about his desire to reunite with Voss, who he had previously played under at Port Adelaide when Voss was an assistant coach. We had some open conversations, I have a good relationship with him [Voss], and I wanted to play for him, and he wanted to have me in the team,” Houston told 3AW.
‘It didn't look throughout the whole time like the Blues could get the job done and it sort of chopped and changed a bit. In the end, it was the Pies’

Pies getting Carlton rejects.

 

[Scritchyscroony]

A summary of


Oh my goodness. This may be the best post in this entire thread.

His follow up which he deleted was even better.

 

[South of the Yarra]

His follow up which he deleted was even better.

Please share it with me. I wait in anticipation

 

[Scritchyscroony]

Just do what you blokes normally do and mention spoons and the last two decades because that's all you have.

5 spoons in 17 years no less.
A remarkable achievement worthy of ongoing discussion.

 

[South of the Yarra]

That was before moving to Mexico though.

You do realise the attempted Mexico sledge is really embarrassing. It is the most insipid sledge I have ever heard. I suppose you have nothing else to work with.

 

[South of the Yarra]

Pies getting Carlton rejects.

Please keep them coming.

 

[Scritchyscroony]

Please share it with me. I wait in anticipation

I'll let Fadge fill you in as he was the one replied to.
It was a doozy!

 

[South of the Yarra]

I'll let Fadge fill you in as he was the one replied to.
It was a doozy!

I look forward to Fadge making this beautiful morning even better.

 

[carlton_99]

It didn't look throughout the whole time like the Blues could get the job done

Exactly - Carlton were not willing to give up 12 in a deal for Houston so were not able to satisfy Port Adelaide. This was widely reported in the media throughout trade period

 

[South of the Yarra]

Exactly - Carlton were not willing to give up 12 in a deal for Houston so were not able to satisfy Port Adelaide. This was widely reported in the media throughout trade period

They failed badly. Player wanted to come, coach wanted him and the insipid admin could not deliver. No faith in Voss. Disgraceful

 

[carlton_99]

They failed badly. Player wanted to come, coach wanted him and the insipid admin could not deliver. No faith in Voss. Disgraceful

The list manager manages the list not the coach. The coach wanting someone does not guarantee a deal getting done at any cost - it's not a dictatorship

 

[Scritchyscroony]

They failed badly. Player wanted to come, coach wanted him and the insipid admin could not deliver. No faith in Voss. Disgraceful

Dual AA in his prime wants to come to a club but they choose to take 1 draftee instead and give up their F1 next year to do so. It was an admission from the list manager that the team is not a contender for the short term. But any way you cut it it was dumb. Sold the farm on a punt at a high draft pick.

 

[Robertio]

5 spoons in 17 years no less.
A remarkable achievement worthy of ongoing discussion.

If you're just going to repeat the same post all the time there won't be any discussion, anyway i don't speak Mexican.

 

[Robertio]

Dual AA in his prime wants to come to a club but they choose to take 1 draftee instead and give up their F1 next year to do so. It was an admission from the list manager that the team is not a contender for the short term. But any way you cut it it was dumb. Sold the farm on a punt at a high draft pick.

An elite midfielder compared to a nearly 30 year old HBF is a no brainer but geez I'm pissed off on missing Membrey lol.

 

[Fadge]

I look forward to Fadge making this beautiful morning even better.

Refer to post 9619 here

He challenged me to use my abacus to calculate the probability of Peter Daicos playing in a premiership.

It was a magnificent follow up...

 

[Robertio]

You do realise the attempted Mexico sledge is really embarrassing. It is the most insipid sledge I have ever heard. I suppose you have nothing else to work with.

Yet you felt the need to comment on it, job done.