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Do tell us Fadge... How does Hardwick compare to Saad? Let me guess, Hardwick a miles better player?Yet another example of their gross overrating of their playing list.
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Do tell us Fadge... How does Hardwick compare to Saad? Let me guess, Hardwick a miles better player?Yet another example of their gross overrating of their playing list.
Moore Ramsden MacDonaldAll more reason to be confident in Hawthorn improving in 2025.
Sicily and Day, two of the Hawks most talented players, both had average seasons in 2024.
Lewis, their best KPF, couldn't get on the park.
Plus they add two quality defenders (top 6 players from respective clubs) in Battle and Barrass.
And then the "growth" from their kids.
Put it this way...Do tell us Fadge... How does Hardwick compare to Saad? Let me guess, Hardwick a miles better player?
Hardwick has had five top5 BnFs for the Hawks, including a 2nd in 2018 as a 21 yr old in a top 4 team and a 4th in 2024...pretty obvious why he is one of the first picked.I think hardwick or saad poll might be interesting from neutral supporters. As hawthorn supporter dimma is one of the first picked
Sicily dislocated his shoulder twice(missing games) and played out out the year with one arm.And Sicily didn't finish in the top 10 of the Hawthorn BnF. Must mean there were at least 180 players better than him in 2024!
Probably missing 6 games through the year in 2024... I'd imagine that may have played a partSicily dislocated his shoulder twice(missing games) and played out out the year with one arm.
What’s Saad’s excuse?
Hardwick has had five top5 BnFs for the Hawks, including a 2nd in 2018 as a 21 yr old in a top 4 team and a 4th in 2024...pretty obvious why he is one of the first picked.
But Carlton fans love going "woof" and pretending it is still 2022 (the last year when Saad was actually a real quality player).
For 2025 a no brainer to take Dimma who is in his prime over Saad who is over 30 and hasn't played great footy for a couple of years now.
You blokes are hilariousPut it this way...
I don't remember Saad influencing a game of footy more than Hardwick did in the first Hawthorn v. Collingwood match in 2024, when Hardwick was switched to the forward line and nearly won the game off his own boot.
Yep, I'm taking Hardwick.
You clearly haven't read my posts.Sicily dislocated his shoulder twice(missing games) and played out out the year with one arm.
What’s Saad’s excuse?
Not sure why picking the player, who is in their prime, who has consistently been better across their career, and who was better in 2024 is hilarious?You blokes are hilarious![]()
Was better based on what? We going back to the BnF finishes rubbish?Not sure why picking the player, who is in their prime, who has consistently been better across their career, and who was better in 2024 is hilarious?
Time for a footywire comparison as evidence?
I cannot be reading that rightwho has consistently been better across their career
No you are. All Australian player Adam Saad has been consistently worse than Blake Hardwick over their careersI cannot be reading that right
BnF the obvious start where you may get a nod that Hardwick had a strong year.Was better based on what? We going back to the BnF finishes rubbish?
You said consistently better over their careers. Based on what? Coaches votes, Brownlow Votes, AA's, the incredible thing that is 'Statistics'?BnF the obvious start where you may get a nod that Hardwick had a strong year.
2024 AFLCA votes Hardwick 21 Saad just 3
2023 Newman finished second in carltons b and f. That would make him equal to Nick for 2023 yeah ?Apologies, I must have been a bit delirious with joy after your Newman comment which proved the whole point I was making. Not often we agree on something - my hope in it ever happening was fading fast before tonight.
And Daniel Rioli was a top-18 player in the AFL in 2024.2023 Newman finished second in carltons b and f. That would make him equal to Nick for 2023 yeah ?
Love this logic ...
Having 1 single AA team (also his only squad year) is a nod that his best was great...but is irrelevant when talking about consistent performance. He has not got close to his 2022 form in recent years.No you are. All Australian player Adam Saad has been consistently worse than Blake Hardwick over their careers![]()
Poor Wormy...2023 Newman finished second in carltons b and f. That would make him equal to Nick for 2023 yeah ?
Love this logic ...
Never go full Worm.And Daniel Rioli was a top-18 player in the AFL in 2024.
So stats are completely misleading. Glad we are all on the same page again. Newman 2024 better than any collingwood player , bar Nick.Poor Wormy...
Finishing 2nd BnF for the premier is better than finishing 2nd BnF for a non-top4 team.
We are talking 2024, where Hawks were the better performed team compared to Carlton.
Reckon most people would agree that a player who finished 4th in the BnF, and also had more AFLCA votes in a stronger team had a better season than a bloke who couldn't make top 10 in his own BnF for a team who was worse.
Oh Wormy...So stats are completely misleading. Glad we are all on the same page again. Newman 2024 better than any collingwood player , bar Nick.
LOLLets have a look at the comparison... Since 2016 - When Hardwick debuted in the AFL
Clearly Hardwick the form player heading into 2025Saad left vs Hardwick right
Coaches votes:
2021 - 1 vs 8
2022 - 25 vs 14
2023 - 10 vs 10
20224 - 3 vs 21
Hardwick again clearly consistently better in recent times.BnF results:
2021 - 6th vs 2nd
2022 - 6th vs 4th
2023 - 8th vs 8th
2024 - DnF vs 5th
Yeah, Saad used to be good...he ain't been at that level for a couple of years.All Australian Squads:
Saad - 1
Hardwick - 0