Who will be the last team to be beaten by GC and GWS?

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With Port, we had a long stretch were we didn't play them at AAMI, that probably helped.
 
Tas said:
With Port, we had a long stretch were we didn't play them at AAMI, that probably helped.
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Yep played you at Princess Park (97), Footy Park (98), Manuka (98), MCG (99), MCG (99 final), SCG (00), Manuka (01), Football Park (Rd 1 02 just post Carey resignation game) and finally Football Park in 2003. I attended all the bolded games.

Choco said we lost so many games before the win because of Carey. He was half right. We spent so much time worrying about Carey that we forgot about all the other bloody players North had.

MCG Rd 10 1999 - Schol and Kent Kingsley kicked 6 against us, who else did they ever kick goals against?, and ****en Boomer Harvey who always cuts us up got an easy ball out wide between the centre square and arc after a shit umpiring decision, when the scores were tied with 40 seconds to go. He kicks a pt, we then do a hail mary kick in and Bell gets the ball off the pack and goals on the siren and we lose by 7 pts. But we kicked 18.18 (to 20.13) that day and it was Rd 10 of our 3rd season and I knew we had arrived as we pushed the best team in the league at their home ground right to the final siren. We made the finals that year. Stewie Dew kicked 5 or 6 pts that day, no goals, our most reliable kick at the time.

I remember the day well as I was at the SCG and saw Lockett break Coventry's record and then went to the Olympic Hotel across the road and watched the last 2.5 quarters on the big screen. the pub was packed and a few Port mates and I were cheering every goal we kicked. Some other blokes decided to cheer every North goal just to stir us up. The last quarter was pretty charged up.

Up until then we had beaten 12 of the 15 sides. Beat West Coast in 2000 and St Kilda in 2001.
 

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North / Coll / Ess

Pies will steal the stars, Essendon will attract the younger guns.

in 2017 GWS will beat North. bookmark it :)
 
GC are a good chance to beat Essendon tonight.

Last team to be beaten by GC will be Sydney.
Last team to be beaten by GWS will be Fremantle.

OP also needs North Melbourne to be added to the teams that GC have beaten.
 
Magic Mike said:
After joining the AFL in 1997, Port Adelaide had managed to register a win against every team by Round 8, 2003 with North Melbourne being the last team they registered a win against. The first team they registered a win against was Geelong.

In summary, it took 6 seasons for Fremantle, and 7 seasons for Port Adelaide.

Will it take GC and GWS longer than that to notch up wins against each of the other 16 teams in the league? Keep in mind that Fremantle and Port Adelaide were competitive from the get go, rather than spending their early years in the cellar.
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North Melbourne were actually the last Victorian club Fremantle notched a win against, not doing so until Round 5, 1998. The Dockers beat Geelong, St. Kilda and Footscray in 1995, Carlton, Melbourne, Richmond and Collingwood in 1996, Hawthorn in Round 2 of 1997 and Essendon (by their record winning margin of 97 points) in Round 12 of 1997.

So, one would expect that it would have to be the big guns of the current competition, such as:
  • Hawthorn
  • Geelong
  • Fremantle
  • Essendon
  • West Coast
  • Sydney
as the last team to lose to Gold Coast or Greater Western Sydney. Who knows how long it will take for Greater Western Sydney to become as competitive as even Fremantle were in their debut season?? The problems Melbourne, St. Kilda and perhaps the Bulldogs face may be such that an 18-team competition will prove as tough to maintain as late 2000s critics suggested. Melbourne seem to be a “permanent underclass” since 2007 and St. Kilda are headed that way with a tough draw likely to keep them at 3-19 this year. With no evidence of priority draft picks even in that scenario, St. Kilda will likely join the Demons in the “permanent underclass” category for the rest of the 2010s, and keeping those clubs in the AFL could potentially cost money, especially since the league has shown no evidence it has the will to encourage a merger.

Under this scenario, Greater Western Sydney’s priority choices may not be so effective if those clubs the Demons and Saints are competing. This could set back the Giants’ development, and potentially for some time unless they move out of the “underclass”.
 
RodneyMaynard said:
But then I remembered that Port have already lost to both expansion teams. And I laughed, and I laughed and I laughed.
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The Gold Coast debacle fair enough, to cough up a 40 point lead at home to a club that had lost its first 3 games by an average of 93.3 points was the stuff nightmares are made of.

But if Port wins that GWS game there's no Ken Hinkley, no Alan Richardson and probably no Darren Burgess or even David Koch at Alberton in 2013 and beyond.

I smiled all the way through that last quarter.
 

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mattymac said:
GWS will fold without ever having beaten us
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I have to point out that GWS are propped up by the AFL where as Adelaide and Port currently have the life sucked out of them by the SANFL.

I don't think Swans will be the last teams to beat GWS because of the Derby games doubling GWS's opportunities to beat us, but I reckon we'll be the last team to lose to Gold Coast. Even when GC are up and at it they don't seem to be able to play out four quarters against us, though the swans do seem to be GAbletts bitches. GC seem to prefer the roll back approach to escaping contested situations which I don't think works against the swans as well.

GWS I think will be Hawthorn. You need a really strong back six to beat the hawks and I don't think the Giants will have that for a few more years. I don't think Freo will be allowed to continue playing them at Subi and Freo's Whole-of-team defence can be beaten by the right midfield and forward line. I'm personally of the opinion Jeremy Cameron could beat four of any back six singlehandedly given any amount of space to work with. So Freo will fall to the Giants sooner rather than later IMO.

With all of that said every team has that one club they can't shake (Kennett Kurse, the ****ing Collingwood, etc...) and it's to early to tell for GWS and GC.
 
First2Bomb said:
You forgot about Adelaide.

They haven't lost to an expansion team either.
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I din’t actually mean that, rather I meant they will do so before those other teams do in all likelihood. Their good form in 2012, almost reaching the Grand Final against a below-par Hawthorn performance, may not represent what is ahead for them in the 2010s.
Charles Reich said:
Last team to beat Gold Coast:

Richmond
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That’s curious in a sense, but then Sydney were the last team to beat Fremantle, and that at a time when the Swans made a Grand Final and might have done so but for injuries in 1997. Apart from Fremantle, who were indeed the last team to beat the Power after the latter were admitted, Brisbane (with two draws) and the Western Bulldogs took the longest to beat Port Adelaide (both did so in 1999). Thus, being a good team does not exclude upsets from “expansion” clubs.
 
SydneyGoose said:
I have to point out that GWS are propped up by the AFL where as Adelaide and Port currently have the life sucked out of them by the SANFL.

I don't think Swans will be the last teams to beat GWS because of the Derby games doubling GWS's opportunities to beat us, but I reckon we'll be the last team to lose to Gold Coast. Even when GC are up and at it they don't seem to be able to play out four quarters against us, though the swans do seem to be GAbletts bitches. GC seem to prefer the roll back approach to escaping contested situations which I don't think works against the swans as well.

GWS I think will be Hawthorn. You need a really strong back six to beat the hawks and I don't think the Giants will have that for a few more years. I don't think Freo will be allowed to continue playing them at Subi and Freo's Whole-of-team defence can be beaten by the right midfield and forward line. I'm personally of the opinion Jeremy Cameron could beat four of any back six singlehandedly given any amount of space to work with. So Freo will fall to the Giants sooner rather than later IMO.

With all of that said every team has that one club they can't shake (Kennett Kurse, the ****ing Collingwood, etc...) and it's to early to tell for GWS and GC.
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Do you think that might be because we as a team have yet to complete what is considered a full AFL preseason? Even last summer our preseason load for our younger players under 22 was only considered 80% of a normal preseason. Our next preseason will step up our fitness levels a notch again and we should be able to compete for the full four quarters. We are nowhere near our peak yet.
 
mianfei said:
I din’t actually mean that, rather I meant they will do so before those other teams do in all likelihood. Their good form in 2012, almost reaching the Grand Final against a below-par Hawthorn performance, may not represent what is ahead for them in the 2010s.
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West Coast are yet to play Gold Coast in 2013.

I expect Gold Coast to exploit the Eagles lack of leg speed like Richmond and Carlton have done this year.

Adelaide will definitely be the next cab off the rank after that.
 

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