Society/Culture Why are young males now more right wing then older males?

[nobbyiscool]

Yeah good points.

Is there any real understanding of issues? We used to have quality shows like 7:30, Sunday, Lateline that would interview Left and Right alike. You'd gain an understanding of issues and viewpoints.

No one has time for that shit now, it's just slogans and memes and bullshit. Facts don't matter. It's the information age but we are less informed than we have been in ages.

To quote Blackadder "to you, the Renaissance was just something that happened to other people"

It's just ignorance

I don't have all the answers - I do know that it's frustratingly asinine when lefties say that we need to create a version of Joe Rogan for progressives. Because most of the people saying it don't understand why/how he gives them something to understand and to believe in - it's nowhere near as simple as advertising someone as the progressive Joe Rogan and having Obama guest appear. And it's also such an intergenerational issue I think it's nigh impossible for one person to have the breadth of personal experience to truly understand it.

Those are parts of the problem. But I don't know what the solution is. I don't know how we make them understand modern masculinity. I don't know how we teach men that we're the solution to problems like domestic violence and the gender pay gap without "conservative voices" shouting at them that they're being demonised for being men (ie. "not all men.")

I consider myself someone that should know - progressive issues and comms are things that, theoretically, I know about - but neither I, nor plenty of people smarter than I, have cracked that nut yet.

 

[smelly cat]

So your 0% of Catholics not accessing gay hookups or pr0n is kinda just projection on your part then?
Hmmn

Nah, most mick priests are practicing homosexuals.
I’d reckon they spend the majority of their day thinking about gay stuff!
You are wrong, let’s see your stats to suggest otherwise?!

Maybe you're right. I'm no authority on this.

You seem to know what you're talking about.

 

[carltonchelsea]

Maybe you're right. I'm no authority on this.

You seem to know what you're talking about.

I’m not interested in your opinion, I do regard however, data.
You claimed that 0% of Catholics had no predilection to homosexual thought.
Can you provide any evidence, data, peer review for me to review?
Your obsequiousness has been noted though…..
Hand over the evidence or be done?!

 

[Blackhawk42]

Legit question, man to man. What problems do young men have and how are we disenfranchised?

I haven't been part of this conversation, but I feel like there are some glaring answers to this.

Overrepresented in suicides.
Overrepresented in workplace deaths and injuries.
Under-represented in family court victories.
Under-represented in university graduate numbers.

And are growing up in a society that tells young women they can achieve anything, while simultaneously telling young men that their masculinity is a toxic trait.


The real world is FAR more nuanced than this, especially on a person to person basis. However, it's still definitely a reality to these young blokes.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

It's a bit weird how old conservative men wearing makeup are telling these young males that masculinity is back.

Not sure why they are falling for it.

 

[sr36]

It's just cyclical rebellion and fashion. Each generation stamps itself by being contrary to the ones that came before. We had the hippy movement of the 70s. It was followed by an entirely different sentiment - the preppiness of the 80s and Gordon Gecko's "greed is good." Which was llowed by grunge, etc...

This time the counter culture rebellion is coming from the right. Joe Rogan, etc have pitched themselves as counter culture rebels of their time and rebellion is attractive to kids.

 

[errant bounce]

It's a bit weird how old conservative men wearing makeup are telling these young males that masculinity is back.

Not sure why they are falling for it.

What's wrong with wearing makeup?

Genuinely?

There have been plenty of men who went to war, played high level football, raised great families who enjoyed cross dressing.

If a bloke wants to wear mascara or use nice products on his face or even a frilly pair of undies to work, I don't give two shits. for a wee while I used to work in a bar with a very nice guy, a very well established lawyer with two nice children and a loving wife, who'd come in for a Coopers yellow every afternoon and chat the house down. we had drag nights on Mondays and it took me a few weeks to realise he was also coming in on the Mondays too.

He wasn't even gay, he just enjoyed it. he was not a picture of health and I imagine he's passed now, but that's a man: a provider, sure of himself, and ultimately happy.