Why can't Adelaide retain players?

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I hate how he and Gunston have acted like free agents after three and two years at the club


Get ******

I hope Crows play Melbourne in Melbourne cos I will have a water balloon with urine with Jake's name on it

No mate. If they were no good you would happily delist them. They served out their contracts and you didn't offer them a new contract that made them happy, so another club came to the party. That's all it is.
 
No depth and yet our reserves side made the GF and yours didn’t even make the finals

Crows should model port because our history of retaining players have been far superior to Adelaide’s. Pretty simple, if you were good at retaining players you would had probably won the premiership this year

I am dumber for reading this.
 

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Lever tried to use the "family" reason as an excuse.

Unfortunately for Lever, Brett Burton, the Crows football boss, came out publicly today and said that Lever wanted the Crows to make him their highest paid player. So that basically killed off that excuse.
A little bit desperate from Burton.
This sort of public shaming of former players is noted and becomes a part of Their culture
 
Recruit more locals and only recruit Victorian kids from country towns except near Geelong so Adelaide seems big enough
 
Agreed-not sure what the Crows could do to prevent it

It's not about preventing it. I'm fine with Lever going back to Victoria. The problem is that the current system in place makes it difficult for the Crows to get fair value. Lever is easily worth two first rounders when you consider the team he's going to is going to pay him $900 000+ and likely has him as a future captain.

You also have to ask what's the point of having a Free Agency system when any player who's coming out of contract after 2 or 3 years basically has the same rights as a FA. Guys like Dangerfield who stuck it out for 6 or 7 years earned the right to an easy trade back home. Lever on the other hand is not a FA and shouldn't be given the same benefits. He can still go home ofcourse, but it shouldn't be cheap.
 
Nothing to do with culture. Except maybe it shows we have a good team first culture. OP go listen to Brett Burton speak. You wouldn't keep lever either after listening to Brett Burton. It's not that we can't retain them, it's the fact there's a salary cap and we can't pay a million dollars to every player that other clubs are willing to pay a million dollars.

What are we meant to do? Pay tippett a million? Pay Dangerfield a million? Pay lever a million? Pay Davis a million? Pay gunston a million? Pay bock a million? How do we retain the crouch brothers, talia, Sloane (out of contract next yr). It's not fair on the rest of the group as Burton said . And we aren't prepared to make lever our highest paid player. If Melbourne are and are willing to do a deal we are happy with then good luck to them .

But just cos Jake wants to go to Melbourne doesn't mean he will be. Button said we will be looking to deal with all 10 Vicco clubs as that as where lever wants to go, and we will walk with the club that offers the AFC the best deal.

If lever isn't happy with that he can go in to the draft and end up at Brisbane I'm guessing?

Whatevs. Seeya Jakey. Good luck getting to the club and the money you want.
 

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Nothing to do with culture. Except maybe it shows we have a good team first culture. OP go listen to Brett Burton speak. You wouldn't keep lever either after listening to Brett Burton. It's not that we can't retain them, it's the fact there's a salary cap and we can't pay a million dollars to every player that other clubs are willing to pay a million dollars.

What are we meant to do? Pay tippett a million? Pay Dangerfield a million? Pay lever a million? Pay Davis a million? Pay gunston a million? Pay bock a million? How do we retain the crouch brothers, talia, Sloane (out of contract next yr). It's not fair on the rest of the group as Burton said . And we aren't prepared to make lever our highest paid player. If Melbourne are and are willing to do a deal we are happy with then good luck to them .

Obviously you can't pay them all, but you can't let all of them walk either. Maybe Lever is the wrong one to offer overs to (in hindsight Jenkins obviously was), but at some point (probably next year) you have to stop the bleeding.

Plus you're in the window, if Lever goes this year and Sloane exercises his FA options next, you're probably out of it again.
 
I accept that Burton told the truth- I think it's a questionable long term strategy to publicly 'shame' a player.

You keep throwing around the word shame but I'm not sure you know what it means. Do you honestly think it's shameful for a player to chase a big contract?
 
I accept that Burton told the truth- I think it's a questionable long term strategy to publicly 'shame' a player.

Nah, f*** him, he's a mercenary and if he's underwhelming at his new club then he becomes a cautionary tale.
 
You can see the difference in approach between Adelaide and Port. Has nothing to do with culture or location.

Port overpay players which is why they have great retention. As a result, their depth is weak and they haven't been particularly successful recently. They also have inferior development so their picks don't become stars as readily, and therefore don't get targeted as often. On top if this, Port have spent big on recruits.

Adelaide generally don't over pay, so we don't pay overs to retain players. We also have decent development so our players tend to 'come good' reasonably often. As a result we have more players in demand and we don't want to spend to retain them. But due to this, we have been able to distribute our funds more sensibly, only paying fair prices, so we have better depth and a more even squad. We've become a quality side because of this.

Money talks. But Port supporters like to think it's down to their SANFL history
 
No he wanted you to match what he had already been offered elsewhere. What you pay other players isn't relevant.

If this we're true Dangerfield would have asked for more money when he went to the Cats. Instead he did the right thing and stayed within Geelong's pay structure thus not weakening the side he was going to.

If you don't believe me, here's an article explaining it.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...g/news-story/fedc05ab0b0f16bd9e488972ca04e1c2

Honestly if you think what other players is paid isn't relevant to the discussion, you have no idea what a salary cap is.
 
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