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I have faith in Wright and the club to make this a win for the Hawks. Watch this space guys we will not be bent over and ****ed! WE ARE HAWTHORN!
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Why don't we match the Swans' deal?
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Wonder if my son's #23 guernsey will roll up small enough to fit my suit pocket on Saturday night? Might come in off the long run and peg it at his head 
Seriously though, if what Robbo is reporting is true - I can't see him even attending the crimmins medal.
Seriously though, if what Robbo is reporting is true - I can't see him even attending the crimmins medal.
I agree with you I suppose (let's not forget, 9 years is complete hearsay by Robbo at the moment). And i'm probably just hypothesising all this to make myself feel better about it all. At least let me live in a world where we'll be better off without buddy (at least until friday).
What we must acknowledge though, is that Sydney will be losing Mummy and Reid. In fact, I'd say that losing these two is critical to their plans on actually paying buddy. Why can't we just request those two as part of the deal (further on trade them to GWS)? Sydney get their man, lose the two players that they've known they'll be losing for a while and free up cap space to actually pay Buddy. The other fact is that Buddy actually wants to live in sydney. Not melbourne. I doubt he'd accept the offer from hawthorn after all of this.
We can use Reid and Mummy to get Adams and Longer, who actually want to come back to melbourne and we'll still end up with enough cash to front end their contracts.
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Chance of this happening is literally zero. Franklin would probably tell them straight also. He wont do it.
Roll the Dice!
What if we match it and he goes on the psd to swans? then we don't even get a comp pick.
No one is gonna touch him on a 9 year deal.
Our only hope is the AFL find this 9 year thing is dodgy and veto it. Then they may do a trade to stop us matching it.
The 9 years has to be dodgy in some way
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No one is gonna touch him on a 9 year deal.
Our only hope is the AFL find this 9 year thing is dodgy and veto it. Then they may do a trade to stop us matching it.
The 9 years has to be dodgy in some way
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The 9 years is clearly a dodgy attempt to lock in their COLA benefit for 9 years
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Nup, dont' do it. Be the bigger person, handle it with class. Let him go, either get a trade or take the compensation and just work on getting additional players into the club. The beauty is, we have managed to turn him into a role player this year as opposed to be the whole game plan. He's easier to replace now and we can now push towards maintaining our list at the current level for longer.
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how the **** can they sign him on a 9 year deal? Like seriously how is that even legal. I'm assuming Vlad is doing it somehow
of course
of course
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didn't we offer Nick Holland a five year deal? Great offer that was!
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They can offer him whatever they like. but geez nine years is a big risk.
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But I mean it's bullshit that they can offer him 9 years knowing fully well that they're gonna alter it/he's gonna retire/they can cut it or some clause like that.
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He won't be eligible for verteran status at Sydney until 2024
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What do you mean get a trade? The only way we can be in a position to trade is if we match the offer. Otherwise he's out the door fo pick 19. There is a 3 way deal involving GWS/Haw/Syd and Adams /Buddy/Mumford just waiting to happen, but it wont if the Swans dont have to do it to get their man. Only leverage we have is to force the trade. The risk is that he walks and we lose pick 19. So be it. There is literally zero risk that we would be burdened with a 9yr contract. Zero.
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It is what it is. Hopefully we get decent compensation (I.e. a first rounded or end of first round).
While it is easy to get frustrated - there is no point. The only thing that annoys me a little is the additional salary cap they get. In the past we have traded well to the frustration of others and in the future this will occur again. At the end of the day what goes around comes around, and it will come around to us at some stage.
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The club will make the best decision based on the pros and cons. They do have some experience in these matters.
Sydney back out of chasing Buddy for whatever reason or is offering less if he goes through the PSD. No other club is willing to offer him anywhere near a $10mil 9 year deal. Buddy shrugs his shoulders, and accepts the offer Hawthorn have matched that they can't back out of unless the player agrees.
Minute risk, but still a risk.
No point, the veteran's rule is no longer a percentage, it's a lump sum of 100k/year (or so).
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This ^^
The Swans realise that in 2019-23 $1.1mill a season will be a LOT less than it is now. Plus with the inevitable demise of the COLA allowance they want to lock in $1million of "outside the cap" player payments now before it gets scratched. The guys on SEN confirmed that even if COLA was scrapped all contracts that were formulated under the current rules would be honoured.
Nine Year Deal For Buddy
Buddy Franklin's deal with Sydney will be for nine years, according to Triple M News' Duncan McKenzie-McHarg.
It's believed the deal will include a playing contract for at least five years and a mentor/coaching component for the remainder.
This came from Triple M site. It certainly makes it easier to match, then trade him to Sydney for something better than pick 18 at present.
Buddy Franklin's deal with Sydney will be for nine years, according to Triple M News' Duncan McKenzie-McHarg.
It's believed the deal will include a playing contract for at least five years and a mentor/coaching component for the remainder.
This came from Triple M site. It certainly makes it easier to match, then trade him to Sydney for something better than pick 18 at present.
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Of course, no trade can happen. My apologies. I hadthought Sydney were going to trade with us, but just noticed they are taking him under the free agency clause
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I dunno.
Blood money or something like that. Hopefully the police make an inquiry into the AFL and find Vlad's stash of secret money that he's gotten illegally (think Shawshank Redemption) and he gets a life ban.
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