Society/Culture Why I blame Islam for the fact it's raining today....

[Maggie5]

Edited for shits and giggles.

I do wonder why you grouped "Muslim" with "Sudanese" and "Chinese"?

Just another group for Pauline to include (Sudanese)?

 

[Maggie5]

The stupidest thing written post-Kruger gate came from Fairfax , arguing she didn't know what she was talking about blaming Islam for the wave of violence in France. Apparently its not Islam its the French people fault, because most Muslims don't have jobs and despite being approximately 10% of the population make up 70% of prisoners there/ So being responsible for most of the crime and 100% of terrorism in France is of no consequence?

Link?

 

[Drakescoffeecake]

Where's the outrage for the personal attacks on Kruger? Will Larissa Waters apologise to Sonia for feeling uncomfortable simply for giving her opinion?

 

[CM86]

See that's the problem. No one can actually discuss the problems with Islam without being labelled a racist bigot.
someone makes a comment about their concerns with Islam and you jump down their throat.
Lefties are so concerned with taking the moral high ground that being even slightly critical of Islam will be interpreted as intolerable racism.

Discuss the problems with Islam then.

I'll get you started.
It's an idiotic religion (all religions are, but currently Islam is the most idiotic).
I think the requirements on dress and the majority of Sharia law, have no place in the 21st century.
It's a sexist, bigoted, and completely outdated piece of trash.

Where's the outrage for the personal attacks on Kruger? Will Larissa Waters apologise to Sonia for feeling uncomfortable simply for giving her opinion?

I'm completely shocked all over.
1. You ignored my response to your hyperbole. (To be fair... it crushed your argument...)
2. I was critical of Islam, and no one called me a racist or a bigot.
3. You're still outraged at your free speech being stifled, even though I've literally demonstrated that you can be completely critical of Islam, without resorting to bigotry. And without 'the left' calling you a bigot for it.

 

[Gough]

I'm unsure as to why being a mother gives you special insight into these things, maybe she should be given a special role in the foreign office, bringing the perspectives that Julie Bishop clearly can't.

 

[Ruck Machine]

Sonia Kruger should be applauded for her bravery.

Not only has stood up against a society/media inebriated on the drug of Political Correctness but has also made herself a target for violent Islamic radicals.

Would not be surprised if we hear about a Fatwa being put on her.

As a society we need to stand against Islam and the homophobia, misogynism and violence that it purports.

Well Done Sonia. Hopefully we hear much more from other public figures in the coming weeks/months.

 

[Drakescoffeecake]

I'm completely shocked all over.
1. You ignored my response to your hyperbole. (To be fair... it crushed your argument...)
2. I was critical of Islam, and no one called me a racist or a bigot.
3. You're still outraged at your free speech being stifled, even though I've literally demonstrated that you can be completely critical of Islam, without resorting to bigotry. And without 'the left' calling you a bigot for it.

I was talking about being critical of Islam in mainstream media, not on a 6 page thread on bigfooty.

 

[Unknown Identity]

huh? You mean someone who is newly arrived, and has not become an Australian citizen yet?

Yes sorry.. not yet an australian citizen..

Just like when i start a new job i'm on probation, i **** up.. job gone..

I cannot fathom we have people on a terrorist watch list, they have links to Syria by sending money over there but we will watch them in case they decide to do something.. I'm sorry but as soon as it's proven there is any link to funding terrorism in another country, deport immediately with all family members.

The stakes need to be high.

This apex gang which is made up primarily of those who have immigrated from Sudan, i do not want them in Australian jails, deport.

We are far too soft in this country and it's time to take a harder stance, i am all for peaceful multiculturalism, my 2 best mates in primary school and early high school were Sri Lankan, 2 of the best blokes i've ever come across.

The more people you help salvage from poverty and allow into Australia, the crime rate will continue to grow.. it's a harsh reality but we are getting to a tipping point, there needs to be restrictions on who we let into Australia..

 

[CM86]

I was talking about being critical of Islam in mainstream media, not on a 6 page thread on bigfooty.

Oooooh OK.

So the fact that you were complaining about posting on bigfooty, means that you were talking about general mainstream media being critical of Islam.

Seems legit...

You are aware that plenty of mainstream columnists are very critical of Islam, and immigration, and dark skinned people in general, right?

But sure... it's not freedom of speech, unless it's in an MSM article...

 

[CM86]

Sonia Kruger should be applauded for her bravery.

Not only has stood up against a society/media inebriated on the drug of Political Correctness but has also made herself a target for violent Islamic radicals.

Would not be surprised if we hear about a Fatwa being put on her.

As a society we need to stand against Islam and the homophobia, misogynism and violence that it purports.

Well Done Sonia. Hopefully we hear much more from other public figures in the coming weeks/months.

It's amazing that you say that, but at the same time condemn Anne Aly...

You putz.

 

[Unknown Identity]

Edited for shits and giggles.

I do wonder why you grouped "Muslim" with "Sudanese" and "Chinese"?

Muslims - Terrorist links (sending funds back to Syria etc..)
Sudanese - Apex Gang
Chinese - Drugs

These are 3 very real issues in Australia and groups/races associated with them, Yes Australians could very well be part of all 3 of these problem area's, let them rot in Australian jails but taking in immigrants for them to just wind up in Australian jails is counter productive and is a burden on tax paying Australian's who abide by the law.

Then we can work on fixing our own shit in our own backyard, and it needs to start with giving our Youth the support they require to get them away from a path that so many seem to take.

 

[Ruck Machine]

It's amazing that you say that, but at the same time condemn Anne Aly...

You putz.

When did I condemn Anne Aly?

 

[CM86]

When did I condemn Anne Aly?

Do you support her, neutral, or condemn her?

 

[Maggie5]

Where's the outrage for the personal attacks on Kruger? Will Larissa Waters apologise to Sonia for feeling uncomfortable simply for giving her opinion?

Huh? What does she need to apologise for?
Need more people like Larissa in politics.

 

[Ruck Machine]

Do you support her, neutral, or condemn her?

Neutral.

 

[CM86]

Muslims - Terrorist links (sending funds back to Syria etc..)
Sudanese - Apex Gang
Chinese - Drugs

These are 3 very real issues in Australia and groups/races associated with them, Yes Australians could very well be part of all 3 of these problem area's, let them rot in Australian jails but taking in immigrants for them to just wind up in Australian jails is counter productive and is a burden on tax paying Australian's who abide by the law.

Then we can work on fixing our own shit in our own backyard, and it needs to start with giving our Youth the support they require to get them away from a path that so many seem to take.

I think the problem is, that we have now successfully dehumanised them.

Banning all Muslims from coming into Australia... This could have been your.
While death cannot be stopped completely. Do we really need to condemn a child to death, simply because they were born with Muslim parents? Or because they were born in a war torn nation?

These are literally human lives we are talking about.

So when we say "let's solve our crime rate first, before bringing in more of these dangerous types".
What we are actually saying is, let's allow innocent people to die needlessly, while we don't actually do anything about the underlying cause for crime and death.

 

[CM86]

Neutral.

So, you are applauding Sonia for her bravery...

But you're neutral for Anne Aly?


Seems legit...

 

[Ruck Machine]

So, you are applauding Sonia for her bravery...

But you're neutral for Anne Aly?

Seems legit...

I haven't looked into Anne Aly in enough detail to form an opinion yet.

So as a matter of course I am neutral.

Very Legit.

 

[telsor]

Yes sorry.. not yet an australian citizen..

Just like when i start a new job i'm on probation, i **** up.. job gone..

I cannot fathom we have people on a terrorist watch list, they have links to Syria by sending money over there but we will watch them in case they decide to do something.. I'm sorry but as soon as it's proven there is any link to funding terrorism in another country, deport immediately with all family members.

The stakes need to be high.

This apex gang which is made up primarily of those who have immigrated from Sudan, i do not want them in Australian jails, deport.

We are far too soft in this country and it's time to take a harder stance, i am all for peaceful multiculturalism, my 2 best mates in primary school and early high school were Sri Lankan, 2 of the best blokes i've ever come across.

The more people you help salvage from poverty and allow into Australia, the crime rate will continue to grow.. it's a harsh reality but we are getting to a tipping point, there needs to be restrictions on who we let into Australia..

In relation to this.

Switzerland has had some recent incidents...Basically for their citizenship, you need to show you're fitting in and becoming part of their society (local friends, knowledge of the local area, customs, etc).

A couple of Muslim kids in school didn't take the compulsory swim classes because they were mixed gender. The citizenship application for their family was thrown out because they're not willing to follow the law and do what all other Swiss are required to do.

 

[CM86]

I haven't looked into Anne Aly in enough detail to form an opinion yet.

So as a matter of course I am neutral.

Very Legit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Aly
http://www.news.com.au/national/fed...e/news-story/93e39acf4d072649fec72aa571b53563

Have a google, then have a read...

Get back to me after that.

 

[Drakescoffeecake]

Huh? What does she need to apologise for?
Need more people like Larissa in politics.

She apologised to the Muslim woman in the crowd last night for supposedly feeling uncomfortable for coming into the studio. Fair enough. But what about the personal attacks and threats against Sonia?

 

[Drakescoffeecake]

Oooooh OK.

So the fact that you were complaining about posting on bigfooty, means that you were talking about general mainstream media being critical of Islam.

Seems legit...

You are aware that plenty of mainstream columnists are very critical of Islam, and immigration, and dark skinned people in general, right?

But sure... it's not freedom of speech, unless it's in an MSM article...

The fact that you're being deliberately patronising and sarcastic is just proving my point.

 

[Nikita Blue]

Sonia Kruger should be applauded for her bravery.

Not only has stood up against a society/media inebriated on the drug of Political Correctness but has also made herself a target for violent Islamic radicals.

Would not be surprised if we hear about a Fatwa being put on her.

As a society we need to stand against Islam and the homophobia, misogynism and violence that it purports.

Well Done Sonia. Hopefully we hear much more from other public figures in the coming weeks/months.

Good grief spare me the brave warrior who only speaks the truth line. She has plenty of cheerleaders in the Murdoch press and commercial radio.

 

[Partridge]

.............and the secular world is much better because? Sorry I don't get that argument either. Hatred, drug abuse, domestic violence, child abuse, murder sex crime, greed, war etc all exist and are thriving in the secular world. Have a look around. Yet people target religious groups particularly Christians for example because they do not fight back. Why? Just because they have a different moral code? Big deal. Why the fear and intolerance?

They're not thriving. A good number of those are all in decline, and have been for some time. The more secular the society is, the healthier it is.

 

[telsor]

Huh? What does she need to apologise for?
Need more people like Larissa in politics.

Does politics have a shortage of PC social worriers that I'm not aware of?