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Opinion Why is Trent Cotchin hated by so many ?
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I would suggest its not different to how so many people (tigers supporters inc) hate Joel Selwood, yet true Football fans love the way he goes about it. Cotch the same, both stupidly brave and hard with alot of success.
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Because he was a good player and good players get under the skin of opposition supporters.
He also played on edge and hurt players fairly imo but people will always say he was dirty but he just played old school footy.
He also played on edge and hurt players fairly imo but people will always say he was dirty but he just played old school footy.
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Cotchin is fine, Hardwick is who everyone should be hating on.
Vast majority of players worth a damn are going to be disliked by opposition supporters.
It's a competition remember and most if not all achievements players get comes at the expense of others.
It's a competition remember and most if not all achievements players get comes at the expense of others.
I'd say 50% of the hate is his idiot wife, and 50% his stupid haircut. Personally, it's the idiot wife.
edit: but champion footballer.
edit: but champion footballer.
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Of course he's a championHe captained a very ******* s**t team first and he is one of the main reasons we became what we did. Without Cotchin there wouldn't have been a 'very good team'.
300 games, Brownlow medalist, 3 x premiership captain, coaches association player of the year, 3 x BnF winner and an All-Australian. Not many resumes better than that....
He had his one elite season in 2012 and captained a great team from 2017 onwards, where he was never one of your best players.
It’s great that he is a Richmond legend. But he is no star of the competition.
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You’re a pretty reasonable poster. Your buddies not so much. He is heavily overrated as a player but fairly rated as a leader.
He was 4th in the BnF in 2017 and his finals series that year was phenomenal - He finished 2nd in the Gary Ayers medal votes, behind Dusty.
He was a star of the competition when he was getting 25-30 a week for a few seasons there but he eventually realized that wasn't what best served the team and become one of the most selfless and inspirational leaders for them which is probably the biggest feather in his cap.
Find me one 300 gamer that has won multiple flags and multiple BnFs that isn't a star. Get off it. There's more to being a great footballer than getting 30+ disposals with 10 one-two handballs a game.
These threads are all the equivalent of "Why don't neutral supporters adore such and such Richmond player as much as I do?". Have never had an issue with Cotchin - he was an important captain for their dynasty as Harley was for Geelong (Ling got the last one but Harley was the initial backbone). Was also a very, very good player for a while as have been many Richmond players the past decade. Is that what the OP is after? Never felt the desperate need to do it with past champion Geelong players myself.
No, the drug cheat got disqualified. Cotchin and Mitchell won it fair and square.
You're right that in amongst Martin mania Cotchin was about as impressive that 2017 finals series. Maybe a bit less standout in the GF but that match became a walkover earlier so his efforts against Geelong and GWS when the games were close stood out. The same happened with Prestia in 2019. Huge, but not recognised that much. Maybe that is why quite a few Tigers from that period are somewhat underrated, because of the saturated obsession with Martin by the media etc.
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A star of the competition has more than one elite season.
A Richmond great for sure.
It's really not. He gets belted from pillar to post by neutrals any time his name is mentioned in the media. **** me even some losers in here are clipping him because his side business made a deal with a school. What's the issue? Because he already has plenty of money? I mean who gives a **** about that? Do those people think whoever else got the contract wasn't likely wealthy already too? Tall poppy syndrome is all that is.
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I do like when people call it the *Brownlow. It's awarded to the 'best and fairest player(s)'. In 2012 that was Trent Cotchin and Sam Mitchell.
People will find anything to strip players down with. I wouldn't worry about it too much. Has happened to pretty much every Geelong player I can think of, and if there isn't much to cling onto, a general "this player is overrated blah blah blah" routine sets in. The media aren't much better although they will generally stick clear of low hanging fruit as far as irrelevant personal things. A fair chunk of footy fans like to be venomous and the media controversial, just got to filter through to the ones who are willing to discuss things minus the mouth frothing.
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I don’t think he is hated that much… but if there is an issue would have something to do with 3 cups…. I liked how he turned his game around and became a wrecking ball for the tigers in midfield. Respect from me!
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Between this and the Dusty thread I guess we can look forward to another 30 years of Richmond people bringing up their flag heros ad nauseum while they wait for their next premiership era.
People overlook Cotchin won the Coaches MVP comfortably that year(2012) with 107 votes. Watson was 6th on 89.
Dangerfied(drafted the same year as Cotchin) and Ablett got 92 votes each.
Cotchin's 107 votes would have won this award in 11 of the 17 seasons in which it has been given, including all 3 times Gary Ablett Jnr won it.
So Cotchin has doubtless had a significantly strong season in 2012.
He has been a terrific player Cotchin. No doubt he could have kept chasing kicks and looked a whole lot better in the eyes of many, but the most significant thing he achieved in the game was changing to a total team orientated focus in 2017. He will retire likely this year, and forever be a revered figure at Richmond. He is one of only 8 players in 126 years of history to Captain 3 or more flags, no player has skippered more than 4, and this list is a compelling one.
4 Tuck, Reynolds, Syd Coventry
3 La Fontaine, Hodge, Voss, Nicholls, Cotchin
After starting as a cadet captain in a rabble of a team, and going through all sorts of public ridicule - something I am not sure any of the others on the above list could say - before ultimately working out just what was required, Cotchin's contribution to his club cannot ever be seriously questioned.
I actually think Cotchin is quite widely admired by supporters, it is only that he is living through the clickbait age that some people seem to get triggered about him. One interesting thing will be whether he ever turns to coaching, as only Reynolds and to some extent Nicholls from the above list have done this successfully.
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We have to pass the time somehow Bush, but if I hear you campaigners banging on about Charlie Sutton one more ****ing time so help me.
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Yes he was one of our best players your clueless..
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BnF results 2017 onwards
4th, 7th, 19th, 10th, 10th, 6th,
Are those who vote on the Jack Dyer Medal also clueless?
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4th in 2017 and top 10 in every season bar 1. while also missing a lot of games through injury...
Top 10 not considered your best players?
