Why the Bullies will win on Friday Night?

[Ferris_rules]

I had a good look at this game and have tried to analyze from all angles. The Bullies do appear to be a much better team than Sydney.

Reasons for:

1) Two minor round victories over the Swans, importantly the most recent a few weeks ago.

2) The Swans have struggled this season away from home to win.

3)the game will be played at a frenetic pace, if as predicted its a dry game I expect the doggies to run all over the swans.

4) the wet game will have a severe impact on the swans as they only have a 6 day recovery period. I noticed over the years there ability to win games after 6 day break is about 50:50. Note also the Bullies poor form in Friday night against the Hawks was more due to the hard slog against the Crows than anything else. That game against the Crows took a lot out of the team.

5) a home game, I expect to see a strong 50,000+ crowd for this one.

6) When you beat the Swans in Sydney earlier this year O'Louglin playyed and kicked importantly three goals, so even that margin is flattering when you consider he wont be there on Friday night.

7) Sydney have only beaten the Saints and Roos in the top 8 hardly scintillating, esp when you consider the timing of those victories. Saints out of form totally and with injuries and the Roos in a wet windy day in Sydney. If the game was played on flat track the Roos would have won IMO.

8) Form at the G in 08, Bullies have won 2 lost 1 (but lost to probably the Grand finalist) and Sydney lost to the Hawks by 5 goals as well. I think the bigger oval will have an impact on the Swans, hasnt Eade been gearing his team up for extra sessions for the finals, this is the time to reap those benefits of hard running.

9) Over the years most teams do bounce back well after losing in the first week, in most recent history teams that lose in W1 go on to win in W2.

10) My gut tells me this will happen, lol.

Looking forward to comments from Doggies supporters on this. Im just offering an objective outsiders thoughts on this.

Oh and another reason its not a prelim and your not playing the Crows !

 

[acker]

I would love to see these boards if after a win on Friday, the Dogs came back from a 7 goal half time deficit in the Prelim final with Cooney doing a Jarman scoring 3 late goals to pip the Cats by 2 points.

 

[Ferris_rules]

I would love to see these boards if after a win on Friday, the Dogs came back from a 7 goal half time deficit in the Prelim final with Cooney doing a Jarman scoring 3 late goals to pip the Cats by 2 points.

Only one point to argue you with, Cooney aint no Jarman there is daylight and then probably a month of daylight then Cooney.

Jarman is the quintessential champion, proven finals hero, a triple premiership player. The marks Jarman took in the prelim against the doggies in 97 were breathtaking for someone of his size and stature.

Aker can and could do what Jarman did, no argument about that, but Cooney sorry.

I would do a Blighty and play Aker in the goal score. One on one.

 

[The Boy From Brasil]

Its a good post Ferris

Actually, the reason I think we will win is your point number 4. I am not sure if you watched the Sydney/North Melbourne game last Saturday night but it was a brutal tough game with huge hits and tackles. Players from both sides looked physically spent towards the end of the game. I was watching it thinking that whichever teams win will find it so hard to get up the following week.

I think if we bring our A game and play anything like the first half of the year, we should run away with it in the second half comfortably. However, there is no guarantee we will bring our A game, given our recent batch of poor form in past weeks.

 

[Ted's Robot]

Thanks Ferris

Great to see an objective view, I was wondering how much the crows v dogs took out of the players, considering the way both sides followed up the week after.
Whilst not an excuse for the dogs poor game, it may have been a contributing factor. I am hoping the same applies for the swans after they battled it out with the roos in the wet.

 

[Ferris_rules]

Dont be fooled by Eade saying past performance is irrelevant, he will be spending this week reviewing these past two games.

2008R18Western Bulldogs3.2 11.4 13.7 17.11 (113)dftdSydney5.3 6.6 9.11 14.13 (97)Manuka OvalAug 3 (Sun 1:10pm)Details 2008R7Sydney5.4 6.5 10.10 14.10 (94)lost toWestern Bulldogs3.1 10.2 14.2 18.4 (112)Sydney Cricket GroundMay 4 (Sun 1:10pm)Details
When you support a team all objectivity goes out the door!

If you stop O'Keefe and Goodes your 75% home.

If it is dry game in Melbourne on Friday night, its game over for the Swans.

The Bullies will run run and then run some more. The concern may be if it is wet then it would really even things up a lot.

Interesting that both the doggies and crows were run over in the second half of those games in Week 1 after their R22 game.

 

[Dogs Rule]

Only one point to argue you with, Cooney aint no Jarman there is daylight and then probably a month of daylight then Cooney.

Jarman is the quintessential champion, proven finals hero, a triple premiership player. The marks Jarman took in the prelim against the doggies in 97 were breathtaking for someone of his size and stature.

Aker can and could do what Jarman did, no argument about that, but Cooney sorry.

I would do a Blighty and play Aker in the goal score. One on one.

I agree, but Cooney has the potential to do whatever the hell he wants to do, if he puts his mind to it.

That's why it's so frustrating when he goes missing at times.

 

[Pigdog]

Interesting that both the doggies and crows were run over in the second half of those games in Week 1 after their R22 game.

Not quite as we were 44pts down at half time, could have been worse as the scoring shots were 22 to 8.

We were never really in the game.

 

[Ferris_rules]

Dont forget there is the 19th player this week, I feel the crowd if strong and big enough could give the bullies the edge.

Geez it was only last month you beat this team, I cant see how much could change for you guys to lose it.

Sydney beat the Lions that rolled over and played dead and beat the roos where really they should have put them away during that 2nd qtr.

I dont think you guys have any other option but to win, as a loss would mean this entire season was a waste of time and effort. Making a prelim appearance is what will hold you on good stead for the future.

 

[Bodicifer]

We can win but confidence is a big thing and Sydney are up and we are down. It is our biggest test of character this year and if we can stand up then look out Cats!

 

[acker]

Only one point to argue you with, Cooney aint no Jarman there is daylight and then probably a month of daylight then Cooney.

Thats funny cobber at 22 yo, the age Cooney is now wasn't Jarman just a run of the mill non-exceptional garden variety type winger at Hawthorn ?

 

[Axe Man]

Thats funny cobber at 22 yo, the age Cooney is now wasn't Jarman just a run of the mill non-exceptional garden variety type winger at Hawthorn ?

He wasn't even that because he was still running around in the SANFL.

 

[acker]

He wasn't even that because he was still running around in the SANFL.

Cripes he hadn't even hatched.

 

[lindsay_bulldogs]

Lets face it this is our Grand Final. Lets go out and give it all.

 

[Ferris_rules]

Lets face it this is our Grand Final. Lets go out and give it all.

Thank you for steering the discussion on the game, I consider this game to be the doggies GF, lose this and winning all those early games was just a waste of time.

If you consider comparing Cooney and Jarman in the same breath I could compare Nathan Van Berlo and Scott West in the same frame as well. Lets face it in all seriousness, Jarman is a proven champion, sure Cooney might have the potential but then again so will this years draft picks until he delivers he has not achieved champion status !

 

[BB1888]

Thank you for steering the discussion on the game, I consider this game to be the doggies GF, lose this and winning all those early games was just a waste of time.

If you consider comparing Cooney and Jarman in the same breath I could compare Nathan Van Berlo and Scott West in the same frame as well. Lets face it in all seriousness, Jarman is a proven champion, sure Cooney might have the potential but then again so will this years draft picks until he delivers he has not achieved champion status !

I agree, I would like to see Cooney realise this potential everyone talks about on a consistent basis against quality opposition, not just against the lower teams.

 

[Ferris_rules]

I agree, I would like to see Cooney realise this potential everyone talks about on a consistent basis against quality opposition, not just against the lower teams.

Can we expect Cooney to deliver on Friday night?

Aker needs to stand up here and really be strong for this club he must deliver on Friday night, I would play him up forward !

 

[Pigdog]

Thank you for steering the discussion on the game, I consider this game to be the doggies GF, lose this and winning all those early games was just a waste of time.

Do you just??

Most of the people who post on this board considered last week to be our 'GF'. Our club had made it clear as far back as 4 or 5 weeks ago that we were focusing on our first final versus the Hawks. We blew it and now we all have the shits.

Yeah it would be great to win this week, but our expectations are much lower now because up until about 8.45 last Friday night we thought we had a shot at the big one, now that dream seem's as far away as it has ever been, abit we are still in the finals so we still have a chance, but a very slim one.

Sorry for raining on your parade....

 

[dogupya]

about 8.45 last Friday night we thought we had a shot at the big one, now that dream seem's as far away as it has ever been....

That is the most sobering and accurate statement I've read all year.

 

[Ferris_rules]

Do you just??

Most of the people who post on this board considered last week to be our 'GF'. Our club had made it clear as far back as 4 or 5 weeks ago that we were focusing on our first final versus the Hawks. We blew it and now we all have the shits.

Yeah it would be great to win this week, but our expectations are much lower now because up until about 8.45 last Friday night we thought we had a shot at the big one, now that dream seem's as far away as it has ever been, abit we are still in the finals so we still have a chance, but a very slim one.

Sorry for raining on your parade....

Sorry to rain on your parade, but I knew the doggies were going to lose to the Hawks last week, the time energy and effort devoted to trying to win a meaningless R22 game against the Crows cost the Bullies in W1, thats a fact.

I expect the Bullies to win and in fact win well ! 5-6 goals.

 

[Caj]

Dont forget there is the 19th player this week, I feel the crowd if strong and big enough could give the bullies the edge.

I wont bother commenting on some of your other points as some of them are pretty valid, but if there is a crowd of 50k at the G on Friday night, at least 20k of them will be Swans supporters

Good luck doggies

 

[wotdude25]

I wont bother commenting on some of your other points as some of them are pretty valid, but if there is a crowd of 50k at the G on Friday night, at least 20k of them will be Swans supporters

Good luck doggies

We managed 40k against brisbane in round 12. It was probobly 30k to 7k, with about 3k not supporting either team. This game is a final and will have quite a few bulldogs supporters going. The crowd will pro bulldog, instead of about 60-40 it will be 75-25 in favor of the bulldogs. Being a final there will be about 10k there that go for neither team, so in saying that you believe the swans fans will equal the dogs fans this friday?

 

[Pigdog]

Sorry to rain on your parade, but I knew the doggies were going to lose to the Hawks last week, the time energy and effort devoted to trying to win a meaningless R22 game against the Crows cost the Bullies in W1, thats a fact.

I expect the Bullies to win and in fact win well ! 5-6 goals.

Highly original.

Thanks for your insightful comments in this thread.

 

[Caj]

no i think dog fans will outnumber swans, but i'm not sure our adelaide friend knows what he's on about

Sydney has a solid fanbase of at least 20k (just a guess??) for its melbourne games. As an example, the Swans Hawks game of about 45k earlier this year would have been a 50/50 split

 

[radziminski]

Well here we go! Doggies lose and we can all get back to planting the basil, or killing braincells playing PSP2, or writing novels.....BUT...to win Eade simply has to do the simple and logical positional moves. Akermanis to forward line- I AGREE Crows supporters. I'm sick of "strategy" and reckon Eade has to back off from the Egghead stuff and simply give the guys the largesse to perform. Either they do or they don't. Apologies for the simplicity (not popular in our informatic world)- but thats what it needs...Either they're up to it or their not. Full Stop.