Player Watch Will Ashcroft - Better than Nick Daicos?

[Morbidly_Obese]

Horne Francis needs to be included in this bunch.
He’s a sensational player as well

It's like those ppl who want to shoehorn in Brett Harvey and Ricciutto into the Voss/Hird/Buckley debate.

 

[domus]

Youngest ever Norm Smith Medalist, and did so having come back into the team mid-season from a torn ACL.

For all the media carry-on Nick Daicos has gotten in Victoria, has everyone overlooked the ability of Will Ashcroft up in Brisbane? They are both quality players, but it feels like Ashcroft has a harder edge to his game. There is a reason he won the Norm Smith today, whereas Daicos didn't last year.

Oh please- more of the Nick is soft brigade. Nick could so easily have a Brownlow in his second year had injury not robbed him and finished second this year. He just happened to win us the flag with his brilliant handpass last year. That will remain a classic moment for decades to come. Ashcroft is a gun.

Many judges had Neale a clear winner of the Normie. Any award based on the subjective opinions of ex footballers and commentators is not a measure of a player's greatness. Pendles, Carey, Ablett senior and Leigh Matthews never won a Brownlow. Dipper must be a better player than all of them!

I'd rather have Nick.

 

[domus]

Daicos is an accumulator who does minimal damage.

There have been hundreds of players like him over the years.

Ashcroft is heavy duty, high harm and high impact.

Is it really even a comparison when it comes to pure footy ?

Mister Dog is silly.

 

[domus]

Easily Ashcroft.

I thought it before and this GF performance proves it.

Sadly I don’t think Daicos will get a chance to prove his worth in a GF or even finals again.

He’ll have fun collecting individual awards in non-finals sides though which is ok I guess.

I taste bitterness and I like it!

 

[Big Sauce 21]

What I saw from Will today is that we will have another Lachie Neale

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Lachie Neale

Age

31

Ht

178cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.0

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

15.5

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.7

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

28.3

5star

K

13.9

5star

HB

14.4

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

7.4

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

for another 10+ years. Step ahead player.

 

[Shane Heard]

Nicky the receiver avoiding contact vs Will the get it myself - no fear

I know which one id have ..

 

[james haish]

To win the Norm in your second year after returning from a knee reco >>>>>>>> Daicos

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

Ashcroft is an awesome player. I loved the way he spoke getting the Norm. Heard his brother Levi on triple m the other day with JB and Bill and he was so well spoken and humble that I was an instant fan, then hearing Will speak after the GF made me an instant fan of him. Great kids.

Having said that, I hate the constant comparisons between players; old, new, current.
He's either good, or he's not. Doesn't matter whether he's AS good as player x, y or z.
Daicos is a great player. Ashcroft is a great player. One might be better than the other this year. It might swap next year.
Who cares? Let's just enjoy greatness from all angles.
Ashcroft, Daicos, Bont, Cripps, Reid, Sheezel, Hogan, Curnow, Kings, Green, Andrews, Weitering, Serong, Flanders, etc.

 

[Requiem]

One bloke coming off a knee injury and doing remarkable things to impact a grand final, the other from his 2nd season been his sides best player and top 5 players in the comp.. both incredible young players, but Nick had prob gone past Judd as the best young player in my lifetime (43 years) .. Let’s celebrate both instead of trying to bring one of them down,

Although I haven't been watching football for anywhere near as long (18 years), I would definitively agree with this statement. I honestly can't recall seeing a player with so much hype and expectation prior to being drafted come into the league and dominate since day one. He could have legitimately had 3 All Australian selections, 2 Brownlow Medals, and a Norm Smith Medal prior to the finish of his 3rd season. Achievements aside, Nick Diacos has been a pleasure to watch as a neutral.

Many people struggle to appreciate greatness in the moment, and we are witnessing one of the greats blossom before our eyes.

 

[WillHayward]

Youngest ever Norm Smith Medalist, and did so having come back into the team mid-season from a torn ACL.

For all the media carry-on Nick Daicos has gotten in Victoria, has everyone overlooked the ability of Will Ashcroft up in Brisbane? They are both quality players, but it feels like Ashcroft has a harder edge to his game. There is a reason he won the Norm Smith today, whereas Daicos didn't last year.

Nick is awesome if you also give him credit for Josh.

Which we know for a fact the umpires do.

 

[BEEG]

Completely different players.

 

[Stax on the mill]

Nick is awesome if you also give him credit for Josh.

Which we know for a fact the umpires do.

Glad to see you’ve retained your “sense of humour” after the shellacking the Swans copped. Yawn.

 

[sydney_gws]

I don't know who will be better, but I think will ashcroft will win more premierships due to the academy, also his younger brother and Fletcher being close to him in age.

 

[Whiskers]

Don’t need to compare Ashcroft to anyone but I’ve taken an interest since he came back from the ACL.
He is scary good, heavy duty and just so damn smart.
If Levi is better than I’m worried for every other side as to how good Brisbane will be for the next 15 years.

 

[Drought Break]

My new favourite thread! What a player!

you probably need a new player to hang your hat on after walsh's year and Heeneys no show yesterday.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Let’s just enjoy them both for the amazing young players they’re.

Both different players but will likely dominate the comp for the next 10 years.

 

[Tadpole]

Interesting that the Brisbane and Collingwood supporting posters are posting respectfully in this thread, and it's the supporters of other teams stinking it up....

Many being the usual suspects...

That level of respect and maturity, as well as how they reacted after last year’s disappointment at our hands, is exactly why I was happy to see Brisbane hoist the cup yesterday. That sort of thing deserves to be rewarded.

 

[Xtreme]

Ashcroft vs JHF

A battle to the death for Dustys GOAT crown.

 

[Do_Beta_Rapport]

Nicky the receiver avoiding contact vs Will the get it myself - no fear

I know which one id have ..

Well you’ve got neither.

Best we can do is a Darcy Parish.

 

[Doc1763]

Nicky the receiver avoiding contact vs Will the get it myself - no fear

I know which one id have ..

Watching the Dopers for the last 20 years, it's no wonder you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Doc1763]

Well you’ve got neither.

Best we can do is a Darcy Parish.

Who?

 

[Doc1763]

Nick is awesome if you also give him credit for Josh.

Which we know for a fact the umpires do.

You lot have been prattling on about the umpires since 2016, let it go.
It's not their fault Sydney are soft when it matters.

 

[MSB ROYS]

Both are awesome players.

 

[BringFevBack2021]

Very good but not yet

Might be, but have Nick infront by a long way still

 

[Morbidly_Obese]

Both are awesome players.

Will is more awesomer.