Will Australia get hit by a major terror attack?

[AM]

No. Our security forces are keeping us safe. I trust ASIO and the Allan Border Force

Do I detect a note of facetiousness there CLUBBY.

If we stopped following the US like lapdogs and kept our noses out of other countries business we'd be off the zealots, ideologues and misfits radar and therefore much less likely to be caught up in the madness. Just sayin.....

 

[Maddo11]

If all the fear mongering on my Facebook feed is anything to go by; absolutely 100%.

In reality, however, i wouldn't let the threat stop me from going to any large events any time soon.

 

[Thats Wright]

Do I detect a note of facetiousness there CLUBBY.

If we stopped following the US like lapdogs and kept our noses out of other countries business we'd be off the zealots, ideologues and misfits radar and therefore much less likely to be caught up in the madness. Just sayin.....

The world doesn't work like a country town.

 

[Milkshaker]

Will we get hit…..

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm

 

[little graham]

The unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.

Syrians warned France and the west 3 years ago what will happen if they continue to fund arm and train jihadists in Syria to achieve the objectives you've just outlined.

 

[swiftdog]

It will really only get bigger if we alienate the Muslim community in this country. Remember that ISIS are an extreme bunch who have killed far more Muslims than Christians in all this.

So we need to continue to work with the local Muslim communities to make them feel like part of the solution, not part of the problem. Education, monitoring, socialisation into society, all with a close alliance with the local Muslim communities. I believe the vast majority of that community dont want to live in an ISIS world, & certainly dont want to lose their youth. So we need to work with that, not against it.

It should be pointed out that the Islamic Council of Victoria is doing exactly this. There's certainly a part for the rest of us to play also.

 

[Xsess]

We have already been hit, in Bali.

Moreover lost in the whole Paris scenario was the element of luck that those bastard murderers didn't get into that stadium with 80,000 people. Imagine three suicide bombers setting off three devices at different sections of the massed arena? Then ask yourself have you ever been frisked going to the footy...

 

[Thats Wright]

Will we get hit…..

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm

Perhaps neutering is the answer.

Could help keep non Muslims from eventual extinction.

Eventually they'll face culling or will do the culling.

Icebergs hold most of their mass out of sight, with the tip being what's seen and can't be separated.

Globalization along with technological advancement will eventually lead to a major clash of civilizations.

They'll always have a reason to create friction and it has to lead somewhere.

The minority of homicidal maniacs are just the head of the animal.

The era of apathy and accepting mobilized cancer will one day come to an end.

 

[MaddAdam]

Lots of differences between here and France (e.g. number of Middle East refugees, apparent availability of AK-47s, geography etc) but we both use the same kind of digital surveillance (which failed) and young Muslims are being radicalised here.

Will Australia get hit by a major terror attack? Do we have the resources we need? Interesting article here

http://www.smh.com.au/national/pari...ck-and-bolster-resources-20151115-gkzbjx.html

Depends how you define "major".

The things that protect us is that we actually have a very low Muslim population - compared with say France and Belgium - and the old chestnut that we're an island. It is a lot easier to hide and move and plan in Europe where there's cities across international borders with large populations to melt into.

There's other elements too. Our cops, at an anti terrorist level - are actually very good. There's a good reason why Da'esh use Belgium as a base - it is so disorganised administratively (Brussels itself has eight seperate police commands) that it is very easy to hide there.

But there's no problem getting weapons here, up to an including AKs. There's lots of radicalised kids. Interestingly, being an island and making it hard for them to get to Syria to fight could mean they hit here instead. You can hide in the boot of a car leaving Molenbeek at 9AM on Monday and be in Raqqa two days later if you do it right. Here it is a lot harder.

But yes, logic dictates that sooner or later - probably sooner - there'll be a major attack here.

 

[Whit3y]

will new zealand be hit by a major terror attack before us?

i doubt it

i wonder why

 

[Thats Wright]

will new zealand be hit by a major terror attack before us?

i doubt it

i wonder why

Probably 10 times more likely here.

According to the amount of people under control of Islam.

The distance probably doesn't help.

 

[Chief Ten Beers]

will new zealand be hit by a major terror attack before us?

i doubt it

i wonder why

Because they're roughly 6 times smaller?

 

[AM]

The world doesn't work like a country town.

Precisely! Probably why those countries who are the major protagonists are the ones who are most likely to be the targets. History 101!

 

[not a warmonger]

the right wing would love it. Cui Bono?

 

[pazza]

We already have.

Just ask Melburnians over the age of 30. They can point to the day before Good Friday in 1986 as the day terrorism hit Australia with the Russell St. Bombing.

 

[medusala]

It will really only get bigger if we alienate the Muslim community in this country.

Appeasement FTW

 

[Thats Wright]

Precisely! Probably why those countries who are the major protagonists are the ones who are most likely to be the targets. History 101!

Sounds like you need an exterminator. Another wave of meek fools turning a blind eye is what helps Isis.

A lot of people seem to be desensitized to the magnitude of the cold blooded murder and rape of these heavy Islamists.

Isis couldn't care whether they divide or unite western Muslims. Either way they are a step closer to finding the key to their cage and fictional God given right to conquer and spend eternity breaking hymens.

It's part of most people's DNA to fight against murderers and rampaging minorities. Being distracted by technology shouldn't change this.

 

[carnthemlions]

Thread fails to recognise that terrorism in our region is the no.1 concern, and Indonesia + the Phillipines have been fairly quiet in recent years. It's possible, but 'major' terror attacks aren't easy to organise/carry out, especially on an island with a small population and strict gun laws. **** knows what will happen if this did occur though. A lot of people still seem convinced that the Sydney siege was one of the most significant events in our recent history.

 

[Jiska]

Terrorism is a political act. Other than that its a war or its murder.

I'd suggest the definition of terrorism has changed somewhat over the past decade, in much the same way the English language is a shadow of itself a decade ago. 9/11 wasn't political.

 

[Jiska]

Thread fails to recognise that terrorism in our region is the no.1 concern, and Indonesia + the Phillipines have been fairly quiet in recent years. It's possible, but 'major' terror attacks aren't easy to organise/carry out, especially on an island with a small population and strict gun laws. **** knows what will happen if this did occur though. A lot of people still seem convinced that the Sydney siege was one of the most significant events in our recent history.

Yet Martin Bryant and Julian Knight both killed more than 10 times the amount killed in the Sydney siege. I suppose they didn't wave a flag, although reports did suggest Bryant said God told him to do it. It's different though, because they had a Christian background so were correctly identified as crazy lunatics rather than assumed to be representing all Christians world wide.

 

[Lester Burnham]

High still means they expect an attack

Yes, like I said, we are on high alert. Which means a terrorist attack is 'likely' but there is no indication of an imminent attack. Since the high rating was implemented in 2014 there have been three incidents that have been classed as terror attacks. The Endeavour Hills stabbings, the Sydney hostage crisis and the Parramatta shooting. None of which can be classed as 'major' as they were carried out by individuals and resulted in low numbers of victims.

Our security services will be taking extra measures but unless advised of an imminent threat the rest of us should go about our normal business without fear. Statistically you are way more likely to die falling out of bed than in a terrorist incident.

 

[apparentlydead]

Not sure if the current gun laws make us safer from any attack.

There are far more guns out there, including auto and semi-auto weapons, than before Port Arthur.

Despite all the bluster, we have a very porous Northern Coastline, especially the area joining the Timor Leste/ Papua New Guinea regions.

With all 'eyes' now on 'stopping the boats', ...ie; Indonesia and Malaysia, this region is leaking even more heavily.

If I wanted Semi-auto it would take me a few days...and not Chinese rubbish either. Mind you, they are plentiful and effective.

If I wanted an Uzi, maybe a week tops. Sadly, I'm pretty sure that more robust stuff like RPG's could be accessed for the right money as well.

P.S. Didn't wan't to derail the thread, but the assumption that getting arms here being difficult is totally incorrect.

 

[WA ROO]

Not sure if the current gun laws make us safer from any attack.

There are far more guns out there, including auto and semi-auto weapons, than before Port Arthur.

Despite all the bluster, we have a very porous Northern Coastline, especially the area joining the Timor Leste/ Papua New Guinea regions.

With all 'eyes' now on 'stopping the boats', ...ie; Indonesia and Malaysia, this region is leaking even more heavily.

If I wanted Semi-auto it would take me a few days...and not Chinese rubbish either. Mind you, they are plentiful and effective.

If I wanted an Uzi, maybe a week tops. Sadly, I'm pretty sure that more robust stuff like RPG's could be accessed for the right money as well.

P.S. Didn't wan't to derail the thread, but the assumption that getting arms here being difficult is totally incorrect.

I will take 15 G36KV's
A Remington 700 338 Lapua
Ruger 6704 SR1911

Got any RPG's?

 

[AM]

Sounds like you need an exterminator. Another wave of meek fools turning a blind eye is what helps Isis.

A lot of people seem to be desensitized to the magnitude of the cold blooded murder and rape of these heavy Islamists.

Isis couldn't care whether they divide or unite western Muslims. Either way they are a step closer to finding the key to their cage and fictional God given right to conquer and spend eternity breaking hymens.

It's part of most people's DNA to fight against murderers and rampaging minorities. Being distracted by technology shouldn't change this.

Actually, have a look at against whom the ideologues mount most of their attacks. Then ask yourself why. Raise your eyes above ISIS. It is just another incarnation of terrorism under many guises over the years. When names like Taliban, ISIS, DAESH, al Qaeda, Army of Islam, Hezbollah, Lashka-e-Taiba, PLF .........et al disappear new ones will become front and centre.

Until we address the fundamental reasons for radicalisation we'll never defeat it. The west declaring war on it is precisely what the zealots, ideologues and misfits want.

 

[Taylor]

Not sure if the current gun laws make us safer from any attack.

There are far more guns out there, including auto and semi-auto weapons, than before Port Arthur.

Despite all the bluster, we have a very porous Northern Coastline, especially the area joining the Timor Leste/ Papua New Guinea regions.

With all 'eyes' now on 'stopping the boats', ...ie; Indonesia and Malaysia, this region is leaking even more heavily.

If I wanted Semi-auto it would take me a few days...and not Chinese rubbish either. Mind you, they are plentiful and effective.

If I wanted an Uzi, maybe a week tops. Sadly, I'm pretty sure that more robust stuff like RPG's could be accessed for the right money as well.

P.S. Didn't wan't to derail the thread, but the assumption that getting arms here being difficult is totally incorrect.

We also have a culture that assumes someone who looks and acts like they are supposed to be somewhere is actually supposed to be there.

The amount of times I have walked into corporate offices, right past security by talking on my phone and juggling a coffee cup with a leather bound notebook is concerning.

People here don't ask questions.