Will Fremantle make the 8?

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Amazing how Freo fans were talking Neale up when he was still on their list, but now they think he's "overrated" and they're "better without him". Fremantle are better this year because they've recruited well and the rest of the players on the park have improved, not because they no longer have Neale.
Nah the majority just prefer Hogan over Neale, which I agree with. Of course our team would be better with Neale in it currently.
 

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I think he means so his Mrs wants to come home.

Perth is a fish bowl. It was his wife who wanted to move to get out of the constant public eye. You could only imagine the attention he would have received if they went for a romantic night out. They would blend in more in Brisbane, where people care less about footy.

Breathe the wrong way in Perth and you make the front page of The West.


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I understand. I live in Adelaide and it's exactly the same here.
 
Yeah but every team does this when they lose a good player. Melbourne all preseason were equally saying they wouldn't miss Hogan because they had McDonald who could be the best key forward in the comp and Weideman who was a young emerging star.

Bulldogs did it with Stringer who was supposedly toxic off-field, holding the entire group back and no good as a player.

Essendon fans probably said similar things about Carlisle.

Every team has probably been guilty of this at some stage.
Whilst I agree, as we did it as well as Geelong fans when Ablett left, I do wonder about the Hawks and losing Buddy. They won three flags after he left.

Sure, they probably wouldn't have lost those flags if he'd remained, but I think Hawthorn were that bloody good that losing Buddy genuinely didn't affect them at all.
 
Whilst I agree, as we did it as well as Geelong fans when Ablett left, I do wonder about the Hawks and losing Buddy. They won three flags after he left.

Sure, they probably wouldn't have lost those flags if he'd remained, but I think Hawthorn were that bloody good that losing Buddy genuinely didn't affect them at all.

It’s actually been referred to as ‘The Buddy Syndrome’ when teams actually step up better and work harder after losing a star.


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Just quietly made a very solid list.

Pearce, Hamling, Ryan, Wilson make a solid defence.

Lobb, Hogan, Taberner give them outs for contested marks. Between the 3 they are very rarely completely beaten in the air.

Fyfe, Mundy, Hill, Walters, Langdon, Tucker is a decent midfield group with Fyfe elite and Walters elevating himself.

Sprinkle in some tidy senior role players who have experience (Conca, Matera), and some genuinely exciting kids (Brayshaw, Cerra, Switkowski) and it's looking very good.

Can they sustain it for 22 rounds, especially with a solid bunch of their best players having reasonable injury histories is the question.

But Lyon has finally been given the chance to rebuild and it looks alright.
 
Just quietly made a very solid list.

Pearce, Hamling, Ryan, Wilson make a solid defence.

Lobb, Hogan, Taberner give them outs for contested marks. Between the 3 they are very rarely completely beaten in the air.

Fyfe, Mundy, Hill, Walters, Langdon, Tucker is a decent midfield group with Fyfe elite and Walters elevating himself.

Sprinkle in some tidy senior role players who have experience (Conca, Matera), and some genuinely exciting kids (Brayshaw, Cerra, Switkowski) and it's looking very good.

Can they sustain it for 22 rounds, especially with a solid bunch of their best players having reasonable injury histories is the question.

But Lyon has finally been given the chance to rebuild and it looks alright.
No depth in the midfield or key backs.

A few injuries in the midfield it will look totally different for the Dockers.

Need to S Hill, Blakely and Sandilands can get fit and not a lot of injuries in the wrong positions, then Freo will make the 8.

History says Freo will be hit with injuries.
 

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I don't see many Freo games, so I was unsure where they were going wrong in recent times. One thing I did know was that Neale would be a big loss in the midfield.

So far, the loss of Neale hasn't seemed to have affected things all that much. I don't buy the line that Freo's midfield is better without Neale. Neale is a gun mid who would make every side in the comp's midfield better. It's like when Adelaide supporters said they were a better side without Danger.

Having said that, the net gain from losing Neale perhaps cannot be overstated. Hogan and Lobb have been excellent aquisitions and more than made up for the loss in other areas.

At this stage, you'd have to say that Freo is every chance to make the eight.
I agree. No side is better without a bloke who gets 35 possessions a game.

I think the damage of losing Neale has been somewhat made up in the aggregates. Sure - Freo lose 35 possessions through Neale, but they bring in:
Conca (20 possessions),
Colyer (15 Possessions) and
Tucker improves from a 14 possession utility to 20 possession midfielder/defender.

And, as you correctly point out - without the Picks Freo got for Neale, there's limited currency for Hogan and Lobb. Adding those two has been huge. For mine the value of Hogan isn't just in his stats, but also how he takes the number 1 defender each week. Opposition teams are Hogan-conscious, which frees up others. We've already seen 5 goal games from McCarthy and Matera (and Taberner should have kicked 5). Not exactly big names of the AFL, but they're getting off the leash.
 
Do you still rate WCE?
You seem to have taken real exception to a post which gives your club a great chance of doing something no one expected they would achieve this year.
It is my personal opinion that, at the moment, Fremantle are not one of the best 8 sides in the competition. But, it is also my opinion that they could make finals if one of the sides I have above them falters.
6 weeks ago I didn’t have Brisbane there and probably didn’t have Port, Adelaide and Melbourne were there instead. Clearly, my opinion can change. But it’s going to take more than a single poor loss to the best performed side of the season so far for me to drop WC below Freo.
If you wish to try get a changed opinion out of me in the future, I suggest you wait for one of the lower sides in the list I posted to be belted. I put them in rough order from most to least confident.
 
You seem to have taken real exception to a post which gives your club a great chance of doing something no one expected they would achieve this year.
It is my personal opinion that, at the moment, Fremantle are not one of the best 8 sides in the competition. But, it is also my opinion that they could make finals if one of the sides I have above them falters.
6 weeks ago I didn’t have Brisbane there and probably didn’t have Port, Adelaide and Melbourne were there instead. Clearly, my opinion can change. But it’s going to take more than a single poor loss to the best performed side of the season so far for me to drop WC below Freo.
If you wish to try get a changed opinion out of me in the future, I suggest you wait for one of the lower sides in the list I posted to be belted. I put them in rough order from most to least confident.

Nah, I’m simply happy WCE got smashed lol


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I can't really make Freo out. GWS in Canberra was a great win, and you can't complain about thrashing North. Saints win not bad either considering the Saints have started the season pretty well.

On the other hand, losing to gold coast was a real pain and having watched the last quarter I still can't quite work out how it happened. It hasn't been a hard start to the season fixture wise but you couldn't say it has been easy either.

I'd probably say that Freo are like us (Brisbane) and they could finish anywhere from 7th-12th. My best guess at the moment would be just outside the 8 but that's because I'm going to keep holding out hope my team will sneak in ahead of the likes of Freo and the Saints :)
 
I'd probably say that Freo are like us (Brisbane) and they could finish anywhere from 7th-12th. My best guess at the moment would be just outside the 8 but that's because I'm going to keep holding out hope my team will sneak in ahead of the likes of Freo and the Saints :)

Why not have both :)
 
Amazing how Freo fans were talking Neale up when he was still on their list, but now they think he's "overrated" and they're "better without him". Fremantle are better this year because they've recruited well and the rest of the players on the park have improved, not because they no longer have Neale.

Literally no Fremantle supporter I know or who I’ve talked to have said that about Neale. Maybe the odd salty supporter on here.

We knew he was a gun, but when Hogan became available we had to deal. Without Hogan we may have kept him and tried to keep him. Prob a win win for us and you after all.

As for our season, final - who knows. But the team is genuinely exciting when playing well. 12 wins likely get you in, and you’d think we’re a chance of all home games remaining.
I’ll be happy if we keep this % healthy and give the thing a crack
 
Didn’t freo have like the 4/5 hardest draw ranked FIXture going into the season ?...
So much for finishing bottom 5 last year- the AFL certainly love their narratives

Yes and the "easiest" part of the FUXture was the first 6 rounds. We needed to be at least in this very position 4/2 (exchange GWS win for GCS loss, as most expected) to give this season a real shot.

Make no mistake, this is where it starts for Freo!
 
I don't see many Freo games, so I was unsure where they were going wrong in recent times. One thing I did know was that Neale would be a big loss in the midfield.

So far, the loss of Neale hasn't seemed to have affected things all that much. I don't buy the line that Freo's midfield is better without Neale. Neale is a gun mid who would make every side in the comp's midfield better. It's like when Adelaide supporters said they were a better side without Danger.

Having said that, the net gain from losing Neale perhaps cannot be overstated. Hogan and Lobb have been excellent aquisitions and more than made up for the loss in other areas.

At this stage, you'd have to say that Freo is every chance to make the eight.

Honestly, did you just make that 'line' up?

Can you please show me one person that has said that our midfield is better without Lachie?
 
fremantle fans would know better than me but it seems like they're better with lobb as the full time ruckman and the 3 talls up forward rather than have lobb as a forward and darcy/sandilands running around. his mobility/presence at the stopages tops up the midfield which otherwise probably lacks a bit of depth at this stage in their development.

Not an answer to you question, but F'me, I really want to see how Sandilands goes with the new ruck rules!
 
Personally I don’t think Sandilands should play another game, irrespective of his recovery, unless we have a serious injury crisis.

We should be looking for the right combination of Darcy and Lobb and giving games to Sandilands simply has to take them from one of them.
 

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