Will the Bulldogs sack Giansiracusa?

[The Falcon Strike]

Discussion on Leading Teams and discussion on the Aker sacking are two completely separate topics of discussion. Aker would have you believe that they are one in the same,

I've yet to Aker say anything about Gia's discussion of Leading teams - so not sure how he has tried to merge the issues.

Are you genuinely telling me you think Gia would have been on TV talking about the merits of leading teams if the Aker issue hadn't blown up? And Bob Murphy would have written an article about unity without the Aker issue?

The Dogs have been on the front foot since Aker's demise, make no bones about it. They may not have discussed it directly - but they have been repeatedly justifying themselves since the decision.

What I don't get - is why they feel the need to do so? They've sacked him, they have the right to as they paid him out and he probably desevred it (I wouldn't know). If the issue is dead - why go on talking and justifying the issues Aker has raised in a public forum.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

Are you seriously saying that Greg Williams wasn't highly skilled? You should quit whilst you are behind.

No not at all - re-reading it, i've clearly mis-typed that - Williams was a genius.

I meant in so much that he was the one in packs often firing balls out.

 

[Ant_]

what people don't appear to understand is Acker wasn't sacked over any one incident. It was a pattern of behaviour that lost him the trust of his team-mates, of which the leaking of information was just one incident.

Leaking information when you've been asked to regain the trust of your team-mates is light-years away from discussing team matters in an interview that no doubt has the clubs blessing.

Man, I like sticking the boots in as much as anyone, but this is just ridiculous

Yeah, poorly disguised trolling or there is a cross section of the Main Board who are the type to believe Today Tonight and Andrew Bolt.

 

[MarkT2]

Some ordianry posts in this thread. Aka was a DH or in Leigh Mathews' words a pain in the arse. Johnson si a club legend. Gia is a good and popular player. No one at the Dog's would have a problem with what Gia said. If anyone thinks that was anything remotely resembling any of the issues with Aka they need a brain replacement.

 

[NQTIGER]

What I find more interesting is the dog's constantly feeling the need to come out and talk about it when supposedly the issue is dead.

The dogs have every right to sack Aker and if they are paying him out - they don't even need a reason.

We hear - the dogs have put this all behind them. Yet this has all come to a head because of the Akermanis sacking.

From the moment the dogs sacked Aker, they have been constantly on a charm offensive defending it directly or indirectly. If it's truly behind them - it wouldn't even be in their minds.

Once they sacked him - give the press conference - and if it's truly behind them - move on.

Yet we have seen in the immediate days after.
* Smorgon on a 48hr media charm offensive
* Rose on TFS
* Brad Johnson discussing it.

After 48 hrs we've seen
* The all in huddle after the win
* Bob Murphy article on the 'Club stands as one'
* Gia discussing leading teams, defending the happenings for which Aker was agrieved all supposedly with club consent.

Seems a very odd set of happenings at Whitten Oval over an issue that is supposedly behind them.

Yeah smacks of Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd

 

[campbell]

Aker was also told becuase of his media appearances. Will Brad Johnson be sacked too for being on channel 7 every available game?

No.

The club atm is in a media frenzy to get their point of view out to the public. This through Gia, Darcy and Johnson let alone Stevens and Whately( even prior to Akas sacking, fed details from the club, go figure that one) in the print media.

Even though, we have heard a flotilla of mindless information from these people, all negative about Aka, none is specific on what aka did. Yet we are told its fine for players to sit you down as a group and tell u, your hairs the wrong colour etc etc. These players as a group are bullies. Why do they as a group have the power to do this to a player. Hope they dont do it to 18yr old rookies, they take a dislike to.This could lead to grave mental health issues for a person. The club and players are responsible for that.

Prior to his sacking, not one thing from aka like this in any way. One thought he must have sold the clubs secrets to the media for us all to read. YET, we read nothing, and he was sacked.

Sad stuff. People fail to accept that bullying and discrimination is not about how you feel as the person doing it. IT is how the person ( aka) is feeling that is important. He felt bullied by the actions of those players. The Legislation is very clear on that point.

He could( but he wont), take it further.

 

[OniAu]

* The Sacking of Simon Cox
* Elitist, Segregated factions in the playing group over a long period of time
* The Aker situation

I could go on, and on and on but I think you get the point. There is a good reason this club has had so little success. Culture

the more i hear , the more i dislike the doggies , sounds like a terrible club to play for. as much as aker is a loud mouth , things like scott west questioning akers hair colour is just beyond a joke.

pies havent had the squeaky clean culture in recent years , flipside of that though is any little minor thing is magnified so theres nothing the pies can really hide, whats being goin on at doggie land shows they are a club with more issues on the inside than people knew about.

 

[Max Rockatansky]

In the Interview Monday night, he specifically detailed the meetings in which they sat the captain out the front and confronted Brad Johnson about 'trying to win games off his own boot'. He also detailed the concerns his teammates raised with himself, saying that they told Gia he didn't put his head over the ball enough.

I hope they also confronted Johnson about his diving antics. It is sad to see a once great player constantly resort to those sort of tactics to get a free kick.

 

[Kickin_Goals]

Oh puhlease. Everybody with half a brain knows that sacking Akermanis was the right thing to do. The petulant, narcissistic, selfish prick was letting the team down.

Anybody that disagrees with the above statement suffers from cognitive dissonance and is a bogan that wants less taxes but more government help...or they are trolling.

Haha you and your buddy just below swallowed the media line and you think other people have failure in mental capacity, your a pathetic shill regurgitating media crap like "cognitive dissonance".... your friend repeating the same phrases as CEO campbell.... get a brain for yourselves.

Reality is the club is horribly failing in aesthetics, what does it matter though they are in the hunt for the top 4.
Whether sacking a norm smith medalist heading into the finals was a smart move will be found out in time, whatever bullshit stories they want to ping out that have nothing to do with playing football and have the makings of princess complaints in charm school are ridiculous and paints the club as soft not being able to handle social pressurings and manage their players.

The entire club looks like a bunch of name calling lil school kids that snipe at each other.
This idiotic process dreamt up by a clear moron only serves the opposite purpose of it's intention to cut down tall poppy's in letting people be legitimized in cowardly sniping at someone. Other side of the story is going to respond poorly to such imbecilic beratement and the sniper is going to grow into a tall poppy himself.

 

[weagles_fan]

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[johntravoltron]

Yeah, poorly disguised trolling or there is a cross section of the Main Board who are the type to believe Today Tonight and Andrew Bolt.

To be fair though i thought their story tonight on the great tim tam swindle was quite well done

 

[gregboy55]

How is a valid point? Gia went on the show to discuss things like that, as players from all clubs do. One would think that they get confirmation from the club to be able to do these things.
As opposed to Aker talking to Steve Price and Sam Newman, without the club saying it is ok.

How in any way is there any similarity? No one wanted Aker on the team anymore. He had lost the trust of the players and the club. He complained and whined the whole time he was playing for Williamstown, even going as far to say he is in the best 5 players at the club!

Gia was answering questions from the media, ON THE RECORD. That is not leaking information.
Aker was answering questions and revealing information to people from the media, OFF THE RECORD. That is leaking information.

Do you all see how this works now? And how they are in no way related?

fair enough

 

[Smoky]

This^ Johnson felt threatened by Aker taking over his spot in the side ..so he did something about it .
Poor form by both Johnson and the Dogs.

Absolutely sums it up

 

[Lurker1]

It doesn't sum it up at all you morons. Aker and Johnson were in the side together. They weren't playing for the same spot. Johnsons form has been better than Akers every year he was with us including this one. One is a club legend and certain afl hall of famer with us and the other didn't play out 4 seasons. If the choice had to be made one or the other it would be Johnson every time.

 

[BlueTouchPaper]

If you think Akermanis was in considerably poorer form than Johnson you are deluding yourself. To say his form has been better every season, season on season is bordering on stupidity.

There was little to seperate the two players.

At least Aker did the team things on the field. Unlike Johnson who had already been approached by other members of his team in order to have him adopt a more team oriented approach.

The Bulldogs have handled this very poorly - Why not just let Akermanis slog it out in the seconds and wait until he eventually imploded? That's my biggest query with this situation.

 

[Ted's Robot]

If anyone thinks that was anything remotely resembling any of the issues with Aka they need a brain replacement.

Absolutely sums it up.

 

[Smoky]

It doesn't sum it up at all you morons. Aker and Johnson were in the side together. They weren't playing for the same spot. Johnsons form has been better than Akers every year he was with us including this one. One is a club legend and certain afl hall of famer with us and the other didn't play out 4 seasons. If the choice had to be made one or the other it would be Johnson every time.

So I say it sums it up... and you think I am multiple people... and a moron!

The comment was about Brad Johnsons actions... not about the club, or the History of it... but I am a bunch of morons, so what would I know about what I said (or we know about what we said???)

Moron

 

[GOAT LOVER]

Maybe they should be called the Western Lapdogs, seeing that all their fans completely fall in line with the organisation. Easy to see why Aker was on the outer, he had a personality and wasn't a brown-noser. Nor was he diddling Simon Cox's missus.

If you don't believe what happened to Simon Cox, try asking Tyson Lane..

Always been a double standard club......

 

[grizzlym]

I started deleting posts - you know, the trolls, the off topics, the random Bay13 like crap - then I realised there wouldn't be much left, so I'm sending to Ant_ and the boys in the Bay once I've gone through it properly.