Review Winners and losers, 2021 edition

[Pleasedontfail11]

You stated that Collingwood stocked up on next years picks so you could have a crack at a key forward, how the fu** does pick 27 this year and trading out of your 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks next year achieve that?

He stated?

 

[4tune8]

Why are you quoting me lol where did I say we stocked up.

You are saying we threw away our draft hand for next year, im disagreeing as we managed to get the points required for Daicos while still breaking even with our strength next year.

Regardless, none of the picks we traded out were ever going to land us a quality KPP, but the 1st rounder we retained might.

My bad, I was incorrectly quoting another Pies poster, so apologies for that.

Nonetheless you've weakened your draft hand next year, losing 20-38-56 for 41-51-57. Sure you've gained the picks for Daicos and kept pick 1 for next year but it has come at a substantial cost. That could be alleviated if you trade 27 for the Tigers future 2nd

 

[projectv]

St Kilda signed zero spuds on multi million dollar contracts.

I'd consider that a win.

 

[TerryWallet]

Winner: Jason McCartney

Jason Mccartney

Age

50

Ht

191cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

3.5

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.8

3star

No current season stats available

D

10.0

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

0.6

3star

for ignoring Adrian Dodoro and Colin Young.

Losers: Adrian Dodoro for the 2nd consecutive year chasing a contracted player and ending up with nothing. And Colin Young for failing miserably with both Rory Lobb

7

Rory Lobb

Age

31

Ht

207cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

6.7

3star

HB

4.4

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

11.3

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

4.6

4star

T

1.4

2star

G

1.0

4star

D

7.0

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.6

3star

and Bobby Hill.

 

[4tune8]

What's with the random salty Richmond fan?

Are you referring to me? If so, I'm not random, just rational

 

[Prochard123]

My bad, I was incorrectly quoting another Pies poster, so apologies for that.

Nonetheless you've weakened your draft hand next year, losing 20-38-56 for 41-51-57. Sure you've gained the picks for Daicos and kept pick 1 for next year but it has come at a substantial cost. That could be alleviated if you trade 27 for the Tigers future 2nd

Yeah look we are definitely not keeping pick 27. Ideally we turn it into a future 2nd, but I'm also not sure our team can pull that off given their track record even this year.

I think our trading of pick 2 last year was absolutely horrendous, and I have called this out on our board a million times (despite some delusional pies supporters defending the move...), but tbh the actual selection of Oliver Henry, Finlay Macrae, Reef McInnis, Jack Ginnivan, Beau Mcreery and Caleb Poulter have been exceptional, and may even end up justifying their initial costs if they continue developing with sufficient opportunities.

 

[Wild Bill]

Winners - Crows - Dawson is a gun.


Losers - Hill and his management and what ever role ess played in it. Talks months ago but nothing raised until a very days before the end of the trade period. Amateur hour.

 

[4tune8]

Yeah look we are definitely not keeping pick 27. Ideally we turn it into a future 2nd, but I'm also not sure our team can pull that off given their track record even this year.

I think our trading of pick 2 last year was absolutely horrendous, and I have called this out on our board a million times (despite some delusional pies supporters defending the move...), but tbh the actual selection of Oliver Henry, Finlay Macrae, Reef McInnis, Jack Ginnivan, Beau Mcreery and Caleb Poulter have been exceptional, and may even end up justifying their initial costs if they continue developing with sufficient opportunities.

Fair enough, I just got jacked on a poster that said the Pies had stocked up on next years picks to have a crack at a KPF.

The Pies work over the last couple of years has been a real cluster ****, I'd add the Beams deal in that cluster too. It just seems that the club is trying to rebuild and fix the TPP at the same time, which TBH can't be done, the players picked up last year at least give the club something to look forward to, add Daicos and an early 1st next year then maybe things will happen.

 

[Baird]

My bad, I was incorrectly quoting another Pies poster, so apologies for that.

Nonetheless you've weakened your draft hand next year, losing 20-38-56 for 41-51-57. Sure you've gained the picks for Daicos and kept pick 1 for next year but it has come at a substantial cost. That could be alleviated if you trade 27 for the Tigers future 2nd

Collingwood aren't finishing anywhere near 18th next year

 

[La Dispute]

Carlton, comfortably.

Brought in the best player available. A readymade gun midfielder who will partner Walsh for a decade.

Cerra should do OK too.

 

[Northernsoul74]

Not sure any team has significantly improved apart from Adelaide with Dawson.

 

[0utsider]

Collingwood aren't finishing anywhere near 18th next year you

Where does the improvement come from?

 

[4tune8]

Collingwood aren't finishing anywhere near 18th next year you imbecile

they finished 17th this year with no real improvement on the horizon

 

[4tune8]

Carlton, comfortably.

Brought in the best player available. A readymade gun midfielder who will partner Walsh for a decade.

Cerra should do OK too.

Nah, he's going down the path of O'Brien etal

 

[weltschmerz]

Dogs had three needs and met the second and third most important of them. Not getting a first ruck was a failure.

 

[Monkey King]

I like what Freo did and Fyfe might be just the mentor Brodie needs.

Happy with the Blues. Targeted period, no fuss, paid what was needed.

 

[master bate]

Where does the improvement come from?

Grundy, Adams, DeGoey, Pendles and Sidey for one last ride, Lipinksi, WHE, Daicos x 2, Crisp plus last years kids is a deep midfield group - probably including back and forward flanks.

Get Howe and Moore back and that's always a nice start of a backline, Maynard, Roughy for one more year probably with Quaynor improving and that's a decent chunk of backline.

Not sure Kreuger unlocks the forward line. Still be a lot on Mihocek and Darcy Cameron. Jamie Elliott. And the young forwards will have to step in quickly - Henry, McCreery, Ginnivan.

There's a fair bit to work with, but it probably starts with a question of whether DeGoey becomes a permanent mid and how they manage the over 30's.

Take Sidebottom, Pendles, Howe and Roughead out and suddenly there's a lot more gaps to fill.

 

[GordonBlue]

Not sure any team has significantly improved apart from Adelaide with Dawson.

Carlton significant improved it's midfield.

 

[master bate]

Dogs had three needs and met the second and third most important of them. Not getting a first ruck was a failure.

I like Sweet probably more than anyone apart from Ladhams in the rucks traded, but I don't really understand going again with big Stef rather than having a crack at Ceglar. Ceglar's no world beater but I'd take my chances with him over 35 year old Stef Martin.

 

[Bestbird]

Not a lot happened aside from the Cerra trade.

Mainly just fringe players and pick swaps for various agendas.

The AFL should really look at points value for picks over 50 as it is a bit of a rort for father and son picks

 

[Fluro Boots]

Seemed to me to be quieter than most years. Not sure if it's due to list sizes, perceived values or continuing maturity amongst the league around trade values. Picks appear to have increased in value over the last few years. I think thats probably for the best overall for the league and equalisation measure as a whole.

 

[branedotorg]

Two years running Essendon have tapped up a contracted player and then refused to pay the 'market' price.

Be interesting to see if this impacts nominations next year.

 

[Northernsoul74]

Two years running Essendon have tapped up a contracted player and then refused to pay the 'market' price.

Be interesting to see if this impacts nominations next year.

I’m no fan of Dodoro but they offered a very good deal for Hill. The reason it never went anywhere was the fact Hill gave GWS nowhere near enough notice to get a replacement.

 

[Le Archie]

Two years running Essendon have tapped up a contracted player and then refused to pay the 'market' price.

Be interesting to see if this impacts nominations next year.

I know right! It’s crazy how difficult dodo is. Offer market value next time dodo!

 

[Rusty Beam]

Where does the improvement come from?

Actually having a decent and coherent game plan will help.

It would be the first time in 10 years.

Given our whole of club coaching appointments, I’m confident it will finally happen.