Review Winners and Losers of the Trade Period 2022

[eastfreo75]

I feel we are losers until we see how the draft plays out. Maybe not a podium loser but bottom half.

OUT: 2, 40, Rioli

IN: 8, 12, future 2nd (Port), future 3rd (Port), Hunt (FA)

Pretty unremarkable but going to the draft with 8, 12, 20, 26 is a solid position. We won't be trading up past 8 (why would you bother when you had 2 to start with?) but might end up live trading in the 20s which we have a hard on for. If we get a couple of "sliders" or highly rated WA players it will look worth it, but pick our top 5 picks this century have been Andrew McDougall (bust), Chris Judd, Chris Masten, Nic Naitanui and Andrew Gaff. Plus Josh Kennedy if you want to include him as a pick 4 traded in after two years in the Judd trade. In the 8-12 range we've taken Beau Waters, Dom Sheed, Liam Duggan. We'll probably stink and get another one next year, but those early picks are your best odds of finding star quality.

GWS said that a lot of the top draftees told them not to draft them.

I’ve got a feeling they said the same thing to every non Victorian club.

Eagles did the right thing by taking out of pick 2 to an area of the draft where there is no mummy boy Vic Metro kids.

 

[Shadow89]

Geelong, followed very closely by Richmond in 2nd, with Brisbane in 3rd and Melbourne in 4th place.

Gold Coast and Hawthorn though, oof. St Kilda went nowhere as always, and West Coast and Essendon were pretty meh.

Across the board though, probably one of the most even trade periods I've seen in a long time. Probably rank it like this:

1. Geelong
2. Richmond
3. Brisbane
4. Melbourne
5. Port
6. Freo
7. Collingwood
8. Bulldogs
9. Adelaide
10. Carlton
11. Essendon
12. Sydney
13. North
14. GWS
15. West Coast
16. St Kilda
17. Hawthorn
18. Gold Coast

 

[Vivy]

Amazed people haven't voted Richmond as the outright winners.

They got the best players. They are the winners. They turned 4 speculative picks into 2 good players.

 

[Vivy]

If Hawthorn manage to finish last and get the Harley kid next year they are also winners in hindsight.

Who cares about a midfield plodder and someone who sniffs their own farts leaving. Gunston a loss.

 

[Lore]

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You can have him at Richmond

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Amazed people haven't voted Richmond as the outright winners.

They got the best players. They are the winners. They turned 4 speculative picks into 2 good players.

That 7 year deal for Hopper is absolute Poo. I am convinced in 2 or 3 years time, it will be looked back upon as an monumental blunder by Richmond.

 

[Scotland]

GWS said that a lot of the top draftees told them not to draft them.

I’ve got a feeling they said the same thing to every non Victorian club.

Eagles did the right thing by taking out of pick 2 to an area of the draft where there is no mummy boy Vic Metro kids.

Maybe so, but I reckon the return could've been higher. With GWS coming to the party with 15, 18, 19 I was hopeful we'd end up with one of those picks. Port's second and third picks next year, big whoop.

 

[Marcel Proust]

That 7 year deal for Hopper is absolute Poo. I am convinced in 2 or 3 years time, it will be looked back upon as an monumental blunder by Richmond.

Then again, you are extra salty.

 

[Rich01]

Port are no certs to play finals. Who are they kicking out? The picks in the 40s will end up in the 30s.

We lost JHF but got more in the trade than Jackson, Rankine, & Taranto got for their clubs.

The two picks in the 40s May end up ok if you have a gun recruiting team. Not sure North even has a full recruiting team at the moment, let alone a good one. But at least you have some picks in those range to keep building.

And yep, you got more for JHF than Rankine, Jackson and Taranto. And so you should have. He was the player with the highest value in the draft by a mile. I’d prefer JHF to those three and pay more for him. As North fans have said over the past 12 months, he could be a generational talent. Just needs to get his professionalism right, which is a question mark.

1 for 3, 40 and 43 is an average return for a prized pick. But your club obviously doesn’t rate key position talent at the top end of the draft so some will claim that the downgrade means they get the player they always wanted at one anyway. That narrative will help sooth some and time will tell whether Brady got this right. Personally I think if there are three kids all rated the same you go with the tall, especially if that’s where there is a lack of talent on the list.

JHF for 2 and 10-14 is ok. They were never going to get 8, 10-14 and a player like Marshall like some fans were demanding.

Adelaide would definitely breathing a sigh of relief North didn’t take them up on their offer for him last year. Rachelle, Rankine and Dawson are three quality additions.

Hopefully pick 2 this year and 10-14 next year provides North with similar output.

 

[citizen-erased]

GWS said that a lot of the top draftees told them not to draft them.

I’ve got a feeling they said the same thing to every non Victorian club.

Eagles did the right thing by taking out of pick 2 to an area of the draft where there is no mummy boy Vic Metro kids.

flight risks sound like Wardlaw and Sheezel.
Imagine clubs would be nervous AF about Clark & Geelong....though i think we end up drafting him.
Good move by the Eagles imo. They're probably the best outside Vic at keeping the Vic kids and even they saw the risk.

That said, GWS are going to draft a vic kid anyway. so not sure what McCartney was whinging about.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

I don't think hawthorn lost. They have been needing to tank for many moons.

A year or a few too late but gotta start somewhere

Lol, that rip band approach didn't work out for Melbourne and Carlton in the past, and now more recently North Melbourne, culling most of the experienced/better senior players in order to reset totally with kids.

 

[Vivy]

That 7 year deal for Hopper is absolute Poo. I am convinced in 2 or 3 years time, it will be looked back upon as an monumental blunder by Richmond.

Could be.

Geelong offered him 5 years. They don't do that for no reason. He had 2 good clubs offering him long term deals at good money.

Hindsight will reveal all, but the signs point to those two clubs thinking he's got a lot of good footy ahead.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Then again, you are extra salty.

How am I salty ? I didn't want Hopper at Carlton in the first place

 

[Rich01]

That 7 year deal for Hopper is absolute Poo. I am convinced in 2 or 3 years time, it will be looked back upon as an monumental blunder by Richmond.

I have enjoyed your commentary through the year giving updates on when JHF would sign another contract with North.

You being convinced Hoppers deal is no good gives me confidence it will all end up well for us.

 

[Marcel Proust]

How am I salty ? I didn't want Hopper at Carlton in the first place

By being the salt queen.

Lol, that rip band approach didn't work out for Melbourne and Carlton in the past, and now more recently North Melbourne, culling most of the experienced/better senior players in order to reset totally with kids.

So Melbourne didn't win the flag based around Trac Oliver etc?

 

[Scotland]

Amazed people haven't voted Richmond as the outright winners.

They got the best players. They are the winners. They turned 4 speculative picks into 2 good players.

They paid a reasonable price to get Taranto and Hopper. And they are still in an awkward position where that might just be enough to keep them where they are and not improve them massively.

Riewoldt, Cotchin, Martin, Tarrant, Pickett, Lynch, Prestia all 30+ next year.

Geelong and Port are the big winners. Geelong won the flag and ended up with a gift pick 7, then added a top 20 pick who's shown a bit from two years ago. And wouldn't let Ratagolea (!) go for pick 33.

 

[What is a cakewalk]

Brisbane now only have 2400 draft points. GWS should do the right thing and bid on Ashcroft at pick 1, will wipe out Brisbane's entire draft hand of 7 picks at one go, would be spectacular to watch!

Also saves Cadman the weight of having to carry the number one tag

Do it GWS, a pay back for 10 years of being raided.

I never understand why clubs let bids go so far at the draft. I get it when it's tenuous and they might not match, but in situations like this, daicos, darcy, JUH clubs should always bid.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

By being the salt queen.



So Melbourne didn't win the flag based around Trac Oliver etc?

That happened after the Bailey/Neeld era which nearly destroyed the MFC.

I am sure most Dees fans would never want to live through seasons like those again

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Dodoro's strategy this year was to lay low and hope with everything else going on at Essendon they forget to sack him

He was asked if his job was safe said "I hope so"

From what Matty Lloyd said the external review findings is going to be brutal so I reckon Dodo is finished

 

[HairyO]

That 7 year deal for Hopper is absolute Poo. I am convinced in 2 or 3 years time, it will be looked back upon as an monumental blunder by Richmond.

They can trade him to GCS for pick 3.

 

[Scythe94]

Wouldn't go as far as to say we 'won' trade period, but personally I'm thrilled with what Melbourne did:

In: Grundy, Hunter, Schache, pick 13, 37, Freo F1, Freo F2

Out: Jackson, Hunt, Bedford, Weideman, pick 33, 43, 53, 67, 72, F3, F4

Managed to upgrade Jackson to Grundy (at least on what you can expect over the next two years), while bringing in two first rounders and a second, finally sorted out our second wing, and lost a couple of depth players who were our long-term whipping boys.

Very pleased

 

[hawkman]

How about when bris draft Ashcroft with pick 35?

Would be surprised if we trade for one of those picks in the 30's on draft night with 48, 50 and 52 to get you another couple of hundred extra points

 

[gungho]

A lot of player movement at Freo.

In: Jackson, JOM
Out: Logue, Lobb, Acres, Meek, Tucker

Pulling the horse before the cart?

I have no idea why you always seem obsessed with Freo but:
Tucker wasn't getting a game,
either was Meek,
Logue is a rubbish forward but good defender (He couldn't get a game in defence at Freo)
Acres is fringe (Hate to tell ya).
Lobb is a pretty good forward though horribly inconsistent. He's also a shithouse ruck, injury prone, and 30. I reckon the Dogs were sucked in paying 2 x second rounders for him but let's see.

If Young, Serong, Chapman, Darcy or Cox were leaving we might be putting the horse before the cart - whatever that means.

 

[Tiger71]

That 7 year deal for Hopper is absolute Poo. I am convinced in 2 or 3 years time, it will be looked back upon as an monumental blunder by Richmond.

From the guy who believes fisher and Kennedy are better then tarranto and Hopper who are middiling mids past their prime.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

From the guy who believes fisher and Kennedy are better then tarranto and Hopper who are middiling mids past their prime.

Please quote me where I actually said/posted that ?