Society/Culture Working from home vs forced back to the office

[Boston tiger]

we don't need your projection to make our life decisions.

If you feel isolated do something about it, rather than forcing people to talk to you, relfect on who you are an make changes so people want to talk to you.

No we need to be there for those who struggle. Think of your fellow man .

 

[Kram]

‘Hold them captive’: Australian billionaire boss aims to end staff going out for coffee

Chris Ellison, of Perth-based mining firm Mineral Resources, has already banned working from home

www.theguardian.com

 

[burge13]

‘Hold them captive’: Australian billionaire boss aims to end staff going out for coffee

Chris Ellison, of Perth-based mining firm Mineral Resources, has already banned working from home

www.theguardian.com

f*ck off Chris. Worry about big picture stuff rather than staff going outside. Hope you recruit duds as the good talent goes elsewhere

 

[burge13]

Funny how WFH is fine when its on company terms and not employees flexibility...

Couldn't have the bottom line affected in any unseen circumstances so you may WFH then but also we don't like WFH so we want to take it away?

https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/evacuate-now-parts-of-tasmania-issued-evacuation-warnings-as-watch-and-act-warning-in-place-for-victoria/news-story/73b727a6faa7fdb64e324c68ac6755d9

 

[Blue1980]

P&C tried to make us go back in 3 days a week where I work, then everyone basically went "Meh", and just went in one day, if that.

It's funny when certain bigwigs talk about boosting CBD businesses, yet a lot out in the suburbs are flourishing.

It's really just about empty office space and devaluing commercial real-estate in the CBDs as to why workers are being lobbied to return to the office.

Yep I barely go into the office now, maybe once a week (office based in hawthorn), no one is overly bothered by it.

Govt can’t force private companies employees to come in and that’s the majority, put simply there is no putting the genie back in the bottle.

 

[peetoo]

Long term the city is much more efficient housing up to twice the population. In regards to the commute to the centre

Covid lockdowns prove this. Trying to go back to before is madness

I recall they were saying the city sidewalks needed to be bigger. Stuff like that

 

[juss]

Going back full time would be a massive step back IMO, there is simply no need, and the roles that do have a need for physical presence are already operating that way.

 

[Puddy]

Just bosses trying to extert the influence that they don't realise they have lost.

CBD commercial vacancies increasing should help lower inflation.

 

[Rob R]

Our organisation is all over the place. Officially, WFH or even remotely from another city is to be encouraged. In practise down to the boss and who he likes. We just lost two very experienced staff who asked to work from one of our offices in another state, when told no they asked but three others are. Answer was "their jobs aren't as critical or require the same specialist skills you have". Yet two weeks prior, they were denied an IFA as their job wasn't specialist enough.

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[Andre]

Long term the city is much more efficient housing up to twice the population. In regards to the commute to the centre

Covid lockdowns prove this. Trying to go back to before is madness

I recall they were saying the city sidewalks needed to be bigger. Stuff like that

Yes, governments should be encouraging converting those empty office spaces to residential and getting more residential built into cities and inner suburbs. You get those CBD businesses then having at least some of their customer numbers replaced from city based WFH, cut down on transport when those people do go into a CBD office and stop the inefficient spread of cities (with associated lack of public transport, lagging facilities etc.) by getting people living in cities. Australian cities are very low density compared to overseas. It doesn't need to be blocks of units through every suburb, but getting more high rise into cities/inner suburbs, plus along major roads and near train stations should be no brainers, despite NIMBYISM.

 

[burge13]

Yes, governments should be encouraging converting those empty office spaces to residential and getting more residential built into cities and inner suburbs. You get those CBD businesses then having at least some of their customer numbers replaced from city based WFH, cut down on transport when those people do go into a CBD office and stop the inefficient spread of cities (with associated lack of public transport, lagging facilities etc.) by getting people living in cities. Australian cities are very low density compared to overseas. It doesn't need to be blocks of units through every suburb, but getting more high rise into cities/inner suburbs, plus along major roads and near train stations should be no brainers, despite NIMBYISM.

Our work just moved into a bran new building, we're the only floor being used atm. Been in 6 months so obviously not many takers on leasing it

Staggers me any council/state government would deem it necessary when there are so many empty spaces around already.

I wonder how it would go having half residential RE and half commercial office floors. As long as security was tight should be fine

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Just bosses trying to extert the influence that they don't realise they have lost.

CBD commercial vacancies increasing should help lower inflation.

don't think they have lost at all, workplace power seems to be going back the employer's way. make sense given the economy is slowing down. seems to me that flexibility between employer and employee is the new way forward, seems a 60 office /40 home split is what most are adopting. I think that's a good balance.

at least from what i can see, differs from industry to industry, i guess.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/amazon-boss-makes-big-wfh-call/news-story/2ffd1724b5d2acf08c7877fc87667900

amazon going back to 5 days in the office from January, its pre covid flexibility arrangements will remain unchanged.

 

[Cap]

https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/amazon-boss-makes-big-wfh-call/news-story/2ffd1724b5d2acf08c7877fc87667900

amazon going back to 5 days in the office from January, its pre covid flexibility arrangements will remain unchanged.

Company known for horrific work conditions keeps trying to make working conditions worse.

 

[burge13]

The world would be a much better place if that Bezos campaigner wasn't in it

 

[Cap]

The world would be a much better place if that Bezos campaigner wasn't in it

It is amazing how I guy worth so much money can continue tonm squeeze more out of people who have way less

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Company known for horrific work conditions keeps trying to make working conditions worse.

Really?

wasn't Amazon ranked in the top 50 of global companies as best employers?

I have a couple of mates who work for amazon, and they reckon they are great.

 

[burge13]

Really?

wasn't Amazon ranked in the top 50 of global companies as best employers?

I have a couple of mates who work for amazon, and they reckon they are great.

Operating cashflow is $105 Billion
Amazon doesn't pay dividends either I don't think. Just the greediest campaigner on earth. Billionaires love space, shoot the prick at the sun

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Operating cashflow is $105 Billion
Amazon doesn't pay dividends either I don't think. Just the greediest campaigner on earth. Billionaires love space, shoot the prick at the sun

So?

Why do people invest their money in it then if they dont pay dividends? Investors are rewarded as the stock increases because amazon invests in itself further increasing its value. It's just a different type of scheme.

Sorry but not sure what point you are trying to make?

 

[burge13]

So?

Why do people invest their money in it then if they dont pay dividends? Investors are rewarded as the stock increases because amazon invests in itself. It's just a different type of scheme.

Sorry but not sure what point you are trying to make?

Bezos is a greedy campaigner. Pretty clear

How anyone would side with him or defend his level of greed is beyond me, but you do you

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Bezos is a greedy campaigner. Pretty clear

How anyone would side with him or defend his level of greed is beyond me, but you do you

I'm not mad a guy who built a company and got rich of it.

Thats what capitalism is all about.

if you dont like him or his company, Dont buy their products, use their service or take a job with them.

Why hate on a guy just because he has money rofl

 

[burge13]

I'm not mad a guy who built a company and got rich of it.

Thats what capitalism is all about.

if you dont like him or his company, Dont buy their products, use their service or take a job with them.

Why hate on a guy just because he has money rofl

He's not gonna shag you mate

 

[HirdsTheWord]

He's not gonna shag you mate

oh so i should just hate the bloke because you seemingly do?

ok rofl.

what a way to live.

 

[bourbons]

Really?

wasn't Amazon ranked in the top 50 of global companies as best employers?

I have a couple of mates who work for amazon, and they reckon they are great.

I'm guessing it'd be fine in their offices.

The warehouse jobs (fulfillment centers or whatever bullshit they're called), not so much.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

I'm guessing it'd be fine in their offices.

The warehouse jobs (fulfillment centers or whatever bullshit they're called), not so much.

Fair enough, two blokes i know work in their corporate office.