Covid-19 Wuhan Coronavirus (COVID-19) - Part 4 - Ivermectin doesn't work either.

[Chief]

Continued in Part 5:

Covid-19 - Wuhan Coronavirus (COVID-19) - Part 5 - Get vaccinated.

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/covid-19/Documents/in-focus/covid-19-vaccination-case-surveillance-051121.pdf In the peak fortnight of the outbreak to date (25 August to 7 September), the COVID-19 case rate among 2-dose vaccinated people was 49.5 per 100,000 while in unvaccinated...

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[Maddhew]

Federal government 'highly favourable' towards purpose-built Victorian quarantine facility

Prime Minister Scott Morrison gives his strongest indication yet the Commonwealth will support a proposal for a coronavirus quarantine facility that will be built in the Melbourne suburb of Mickleham before September.

www.abc.net.au

Starts building in Sep, surely this is a waste of money? Or this shit aint going away for at east another 12 months

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Federal government 'highly favourable' towards purpose-built Victorian quarantine facility

Prime Minister Scott Morrison gives his strongest indication yet the Commonwealth will support a proposal for a coronavirus quarantine facility that will be built in the Melbourne suburb of Mickleham before September.

www.abc.net.au

Starts building in Sep, surely this is a waste of money? Or this sh*t aint going away for at east another 12 months

I was of this view, but someone pointed out to me that we can use them for things like onshore detention post pandemic

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Can the normal person fathom how many lives 1.5 billion dollars could save if we put it into the health system?

 

[Rob R]

yes, and this needs to come from both federal and state levels; currently there is no forking leadership out there at all

Leadership is gone and all the state and federal govt members are now only focussed on point scoring and blame shifting for the upcoming election.

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[Hornberger]

This failed system forced the states to intervene, just like they were forced to intervene and take over vaccine delivery

If you look at where home quarantine has worked, it's been in countries where you had to agree to electronic monitoring

This of course is ignoring the fundamental issue that if you are getting the occasional case of aerosol transmission within hotels, you are certainly going to get cases of aerosol transmission within peoples homes even where people are being 100% compliant.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

This of course is ignoring the fundamental issue that if you are getting the occasional case of aerosol transmission within hotels, you are certainly going to get cases of aerosol transmission within peoples homes even where people are being 100% compliant.

off mem home detention required everyone else to stay in the house too - just adding to the likelihood people wouldnt comply

 

[adogsfan5]

Did other states do 7 day circuit breaker lockdowns or were they 3-5?

 

[parsons nose]

Listening to an infectious disease doctor this morning arguing that the pfizer vaccine should be redirected to the over 50’s cohort, given they are the greatest risk of severe complications. Makes a lot sense, this should be prioritised.

 

[adogsfan5]

Listening to an infectious disease doctor this morning arguing that the pfizer vaccine should be redirected to the over 50’s cohort, given they are the greatest risk of severe complications. Makes a lot sense, this should be prioritised.

Been wondering about this the whole time. Why are we giving AZ to the most vulnerable ?

 

[Maddhew]

Did other states do 7 day circuit breaker lockdowns or were they 3-5?

The ones who did were 3-5, but their case numbers were far lower.


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[Deliverance]

Feds didn't have enough vaccines is the main issue as I understand it.

 

[Deliverance]

Can the normal person fathom how many lives 1.5 billion dollars could save if we put it into the health system?

Imagine 60 billion, instead of franking credits for people who don't pay tax.

 

[adogsfan5]

Feds didn't have enough vaccines is the main issue as I understand it.

Albanese seems somewhat useless but I think I’m taking him over the PM who only cares about photo shoots.

 

[Deliverance]

Albanese seems somewhat useless but I think I’m taking him over the PM who only cares about photo shoots.

Yeah, I wish Chalmers was the alternative.

 

[swingdog]

This is a quite brilliant piece of digital journalism:

The short, confusing history of Australia’s shifting vaccination targets

Is Australia's slow vaccine rollout to blame for Victoria's latest lockdown? We've tracked more than a dozen targets, revisions and updates to the vaccine timetable.

www.abc.net.au

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Been wondering about this the whole time. Why are we giving AZ to the most vulnerable ?

I think the odd thing is that Thrombosis as a side effect is not typically hitting the older people. Its not hitting people who would normally be at risk of Thrombosis.
Furthermore, those with a history of blood clotting are not an increased risk of Thrombosis as a side effect.

Covid vaccines and blood clots: Your questions answered

Thrombosis UK and Public Health Wales answer the most frequently asked questions about the vaccine.

www.bbc.com

The blood clotting is caused by an immune response.
So here's the thing, if you are prone to having blood clotting when you have the AZ shot, you are probably also prone to having blood clotting if you catch Covid.

newsGP - Blood clots up to 10 times more common with COVID than vaccines: Study

Research has identified the various risks of people experiencing cerebral venous thrombosis, which has been linked to the AstraZeneca vaccine.

www1.racgp.org.au

The vaccines are not causing the blood clotting, the immune response to Covid has the potential to cause blood clotting. That's the way i read it anyway.

 

[MrKK]

This is a quite brilliant piece of digital journalism:

The short, confusing history of Australia’s shifting vaccination targets

Is Australia's slow vaccine rollout to blame for Victoria's latest lockdown? We've tracked more than a dozen targets, revisions and updates to the vaccine timetable.

www.abc.net.au

It's very good, but highlights by omission that there is no roadmap of what happens with international borders etc when x% of the population is vaccinated. That will continue to be a huge handbrake on people taking up the offer of vaccination.

 

[Maddhew]

Feds didn't have enough vaccines is the main issue as I understand it.

Demand is a bigger issue than supply at this point.


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[Deliverance]

Demand is a bigger issue than supply at this point.


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Not up until now.

 

[Roby]

Getting vaccinated today.

Was prepared to travel to the US and spend money on airfares, accommodation just to get vaccinated.

Hopefully more people do the same here and get
vaccinated. People don't really know how lucky we are to be able to get a decent vaccine in a country with virtually no Covid-19 cases.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Getting vaccinated today.

Was prepared to travel to the US and spend money on airfares, accommodation just to get vaccinated.

Hopefully more people do the same here and get
vaccinated. People don't really know how lucky we are to be able to get a decent vaccine in a country with virtually no Covid-19 cases.

Are you an Astro or a Pfizer jabbee? Any after-effects?

 

[Roby]

Are you an Astro or a Pfizer jabbee? Any after-effects?

I'm not sure if I have a choice but if I do ill just get AZ as I don't want to wait to get the second dose as I want to be immunized and be able to travel overseas ASAP.

I'm currently be waiting in line in the cold for almost two hours at a walk in centre. I tried to call for an appointment on the 1800 571 121 but I never get through.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

I'm not sure if I have a choice but if I do ill just get AZ as I don't want to wait to get the second dose as I want to be immunized and be able to travel overseas ASAP.

I'm currently be waiting in line in the cold for almost two hours at a walk in centre. I tried to call for an appointment on the 1800 571 121 but I never get through.

do you have to check in when you start queuing?

Im looking to go first thing tomorrow, but i know my missus and MIL would prefer to come in when the queue has moved somewhat

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Honest question here also

Are you willing to no longer attend any funerals for your loved ones going forward to stand in solidarity with the restrictions being handed out? What I mean is if a mum has to suck up and get on with a govt decision to not have a funeral for her 8 year old son, then why not simply create this as a social norm?

Sacrifice only comes out of a inconvenience to yourself so I guess the question to the lockdown lovers is. To what extent are you willing to live with the inconveniences you expect others to live by?

 

[Roby]

do you have to check in when you start queuing?

Im looking to go first thing tomorrow, but i know my missus and MIL would prefer to come in when the queue has moved somewhat

You have to check in on QR.

But every centre might be different. I think the earlier you come the better, in terms of time.

Maybr bring a book or a battery charger.