WWE TV, Rumours and Discussion (On Netflix)

[Cleavy]

oh, that's interesting!

 

[Cleavy]

That beer ain't gonna sell
Booed out of the building

did you see the press release? WWE is a minority owner.

the beer doesn't sell, just like Hogan not sure which is worse: Hogan beer or Flair energy drink

 

[ptrg]

Personally despised the majority of RAW.
The actual wrestling seemed like a hindrance to the rest of the show.

I get it was a "special" show, but it went too far in celebrity-ism at the detriment of why the average fan watches - wrestling.

The crowd was pretty for the three main matches, with the main event being an absolute waste. Punks face when they were squaring up said "wtf".

There's something off when the biggest cheer of the night goes to an elitist rapper smoking a blunt, and the biggest boo goes to a MAGA washed up wrestler.

Also don't think a lot of the choices worked, from the grey ref gear, to the black mat covered in logos, everything just seemed changed "because".
"Let's make everything futuristic and noir" type affair. (I thought I was watching Shane's death pit or whatever that underground wrestling thing was for a while there)

And the thing that struck me the most was the vibe that Hunter and everyone else behind the scenes had spent so much time promoting the show in the lead up, that they forgot to work out how it would actually run.

So many tech issues and dead air, so many barebones statements and, I'd argue, even matches. Spam finishers all round to hide the fact nothing was worked out in advance!

Borrowed a friend's Netflix to watch it, no chance I'll be paying $19 a month for it.

Such a shame, but like many others, I could justify it since I was buying Kayo for cricket, AFL and F1 - but no way am I paying another $19 a month just for WWE.

 

[mumblingpie]

Had a bit of a sucking up to everyone feel to it, just seemed a little desperate, but I get it they are trying to make a big impression so they get the big cash bonuses which is what they are really more emotional about

 

[ptrg]

Only the USA/LA would cheer so hard for the big announcement that they are the "biggest ever gate" in RAW history..

 

[eddiesmith]

Saw Roman and The Rock shake hands and the crowd went mild...

 

[Cleavy]

Only the USA/LA would cheer so hard for the big announcement that they are the "biggest ever gate" in RAW history..

nah, all crowds would do that. same when they announce an (over-inflated) attendance record.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

TBH I feel each match was 10-15 minutes too short which occurred cos of all the celebrity ass slapping .

 

[nobbyiscool]

Now that I have netflix...

Am I going to feel shitty about watching the Mr McMahon doco?

 

[Sippa]

I was just waiting for rock to hit him with the rock bottom , steal the ula gala and walk off

Why did anyone , including HHH, think it was a good idea to send hogan out

Punks been amazing since returning like hasn’t done a thing wrong , except get injured . And when he came back his stock was at a low . But it’s just ironic he was so disgruntled at wwe for losing to part timers in hhh, brock and taker and he’s done the same to drew and Seth now

 

[nobbyiscool]

Why did anyone , including HHH, think it was a good idea to send hogan out

What if...

Hunter knew all along.

He's become such a mark for himself. He's on all the videos. He made sure he was the first face on tv during the Netflix era. He was the voice on the Netflix promotion. And for some unknown reason, people don't see through it, and they still cheer ape shit for him.

COOHHH is the top babyface he wishes he could've been as a wrestler, but his character never leant itself to.

Now he's taking down legends to elevate babyface COOHHH in the pantheon of WWE Legends who get to stand in front of the crowd for big moments and soak in the adulation.

He knew people would boo Hogan out of the building, and COOHHH progresses another notch, like a tyrant picking off his older brothers in the royal throne ascendancy.

 

[ULTIMATE_WARRIOR]

I guess it’s one of two things regarding Rock.

He’s either totally out of WrestleMania as rumoured, and they’ve dropped the Cody heat and story (we may never know what significant item he handed Cody back in April).

Or they were catering to new and/or lapsed fans who only really know The Rock as a babyface. As such, they presented him as that via his promo and interactions with Cody/Reigns. And they’re cooking a swerve or something else up which will happen over the next month or two.

 

[James Colorado]

Now that I have netflix...

Am I going to feel shitty about watching the Mr McMahon doco?

I doubt it; it's not a bad doco by any means, but won't really tell you much you don't already know, except where an episode covers a period where you weren't actively watching (I'm only getting back into it these last few months, so the informative episodes for me were the early ones covering his rise to the top and making the WWWF/WWF a nationwide then global promotion, and the later ones covering the last few years; those covering the Attitude and Ruthless Aggression eras didn't tell me much I didn't already know). Vince himself does come across as someone with a certain lack of self-awareness and an inability to separate actual reality from manufactured reality (his family life really seems to suffer from it), and there are aspects of his early life which were very sad, but due to his lack of participation after the Janel Grant allegations came out there isn't too much depth added to the last couple of years.

 

[James Colorado]

Haven't watched the Raw, but I checked out the Hogan promo on YT after hearing about it; I watched WM3 last night as I'd never seen Savage-Steamboat and wanted to see a classic, and also had never seen Hogan-Andre and while I knew the match quality was hardly going to be HBK-Taker, I wanted to see the moment. The difference in the receptions Hogan received on these occasions is massive.

 

[DorothyG]

If you had have told young junior Dorothy in the early 90s that, one day 35 years in the future, weekly episodic wrestling would be this easy to access for anyone interested the world, I don't think I would have believed it.

It was hard work back then trying to watch wrestling here in Aus, I blame my cousins for getting me hooked. Everytime we visited, they would have the latest VHS rented from the video shop and we would watch it all together. Bulldog defeating Brett Hart in London in 92, SummerSlam 93 Lex v Yokozona, Stone Cold winning the 96 KotR, countless Wrestlmainas and In Your Houses.

My bro and I didn't tell any of our friends that we adored pro wrestling. It was a thing between us and our cousins. It wasn't cool back then to like wrestling. We would have been teased by our school friends if they found out.

We missed the best of the Monday Night Wars, it was just so hard to source here. We kept up with going to the local video store once a month to see what the latest WWF release was. It was usually months old by this point, but we didn't care.

It got easier when my folks got Foxtel in the 2000's, I could get my hit of raw and smackdown from them. This was around the Ruthless Aggression era. Prime jorts Cena, Eddie, Lesnar, Batista, Randy. The Undertakers streak started gaining traction. My parents said they hated wrestling, but I think they secretly enjoyed watching along. I got really big into storylines and all around this time. This was peak WWE for me.

It was however, still pretty uncool and my dirty secret not many people knew about. My interest died a little when I moved out and lost the access to Foxtel. Plus girls don't think much of wrestling.

2010s YouTube and Dailymontion hooked me back in. Plus the internet made it so easy to keep up with storylines and the main guys. But this was a bad time for the WWE product. State it was. But I didn't care cause I could find an old classic on the internet somewhere. I dabbled with the network for a while, but I could justify it at the time, I didn't really care for the current crop and was mainly using it for the vault. Plus, the Foxtel deal meant they couldn't show current Raw and Smackdowns till weeks later.

Buy now. It's back in my home weekly. And no additional cost to me (Netflix and apple are our own subs). It's still my beloved wrestling, but it feels different. Fresh. Confident. And it's cool. I tell everyone who will listen now that I love pro wrestling. I'll talk WWE history for hours.

They have had what 1500+ episode of Raw? If they want to throw in a vanity episode every now and then for special occasions, slap themselves on the back and show off just the how big of a cultural phenomenon they have become. All the power to them.

I love pro wrestling. Bring on 2025

 

[RossFC]

 

[BEEG]

I guess it’s one of two things regarding Rock.

He’s either totally out of WrestleMania as rumoured, and they’ve dropped the Cody heat and story (we may never know what significant item he handed Cody back in April).

Or they were catering to new and/or lapsed fans who only really know The Rock as a babyface. As such, they presented him as that via his promo and interactions with Cody/Reigns. And they’re cooking a swerve or something else up which will happen over the next month or two.

Reports are saying he is out of Wrestlemania.

Reigns to beat Gunther at RR and Punk to come in at 30 and win it with help of Heyman.

Cena to win EC and fight Rhodes.

 

[Nicho50]

Still think they were just catering to the world wide fan base with the way the Rock played out. Whilst he was never referred to as the final boss he was still wearing the same outfit and had that people’s championship with him. The tease is still there which is the beauty of wrestling.

Find it funny how people use the word buried, people are claiming that’s what they did to Seth

The guy has just been in the main event of the biggest hyped Raw in forever and took multiple finishes to put him down. He’s still going to be a top player not buried at all…

 

[ULTIMATE_WARRIOR]

If you had have told young junior Dorothy in the early 90s that, one day 35 years in the future, weekly episodic wrestling would be this easy to access for anyone interested the world, I don't think I would have believed it.

It was hard work back then trying to watch wrestling here in Aus, I blame my cousins for getting me hooked. Everytime we visited, they would have the latest VHS rented from the video shop and we would watch it all together. Bulldog defeating Brett Hart in London in 92, SummerSlam 93 Lex v Yokozona, Stone Cold winning the 96 KotR, countless Wrestlmainas and In Your Houses.

My bro and I didn't tell any of our friends that we adored pro wrestling. It was a thing between us and our cousins. It wasn't cool back then to like wrestling. We would have been teased by our school friends if they found out.

We missed the best of the Monday Night Wars, it was just so hard to source here. We kept up with going to the local video store once a month to see what the latest WWF release was. It was usually months old by this point, but we didn't care.

It got easier when my folks got Foxtel in the 2000's, I could get my hit of raw and smackdown from them. This was around the Ruthless Aggression era. Prime jorts Cena, Eddie, Lesnar, Batista, Randy. The Undertakers streak started gaining traction. My parents said they hated wrestling, but I think they secretly enjoyed watching along. I got really big into storylines and all around this time. This was peak WWE for me.

It was however, still pretty uncool and my dirty secret not many people knew about. My interest died a little when I moved out and lost the access to Foxtel. Plus girls don't think much of wrestling.

2010s YouTube and Dailymontion hooked me back in. Plus the internet made it so easy to keep up with storylines and the main guys. But this was a bad time for the WWE product. State it was. But I didn't care cause I could find an old classic on the internet somewhere. I dabbled with the network for a while, but I could justify it at the time, I didn't really care for the current crop and was mainly using it for the vault. Plus, the Foxtel deal meant they couldn't show current Raw and Smackdowns till weeks later.

Buy now. It's back in my home weekly. And no additional cost to me (Netflix and apple are our own subs). It's still my beloved wrestling, but it feels different. Fresh. Confident. And it's cool. I tell everyone who will listen now that I love pro wrestling. I'll talk WWE history for hours.

They have had what 1500+ episode of Raw? If they want to throw in a vanity episode every now and then for special occasions, slap themselves on the back and show off just the how big of a cultural phenomenon they have become. All the power to them.

I love pro wrestling. Bring on 2025

Great post Dorothy.

I felt the same growing up, having wrestling as my secret obsession. I do remember a time in primary school where all the kids were into the Wolfpac and the nWo, but getting older and moving into high school it became much more of a secret indulgence. God forbid the embarrassment if a girl found out you were a fan, and an obsessive one like me….

These days it’s much different. Couldn’t care less and happy to let anyone willing to hear that I love wrestling. Funny thing is finding out just how many other people all watch it too. And the ones who still snicker and laugh all seem to know exactly what’s going on at any given time in a wrestling story somehow! You won’t see me walking down the street in a wrestling tee, but it’s good to be able to talk about our fandom these days without all judging eyes.

My missus still hates it though and reckons I talk like a wrestling promo half the time .

It’s definitely a phenomenon and the WWE getting so hot again has made it so enjoyable.

 

[Golden_6]

I'm happy for Cena to win one more championship at his final Wrestlemania. You know he'll let someone like Bron Breakker be the one to take it off him a few months later to try and create a new star.

 

[nobbyiscool]

I'm very late to the Mr McMahon doc, but I'm a few eps in, and the post-edit does a very good job of not lionising McMahon at all. People are right when they say there's not a lot of new info in it.

This line from Shawn Michaels might be one of my favourite all time quotes about wrestling: "You can have respect for this line of work, but you don’t have to act like it’s friggin not weird."

 

[BEEG]

I'm surprised Hogan is such a big talking point after the show.

He hasn't been over for a long time especially with anyone under the age of 40.

He also was in a city which are anti Trump.

I don't see the big deal, much bigger talking points then Hogan.

 

[Loonerty]

Enjoyed Macaulay Culkin getting pop of the night

 

[nobbyiscool]

Enjoyed Macaulay Culkin getting pop of the night

I think people are very pleasantly surprised that he's alive, and that he's looking pretty well.

It was pretty touch and go there for a while wasn't it?

 

[RossFC]

Bodyslam are claiming that Becky Lynch was supposed to appear after the RAW Women's Title match, but they changed it to Undertaker riding his bike around the ring instead.