Certified Legendary Thread Sack Hinkley 13 - Another Crack At This (Stepping down end of 2025)

[rogerjames]

Honestly, it should’ve been done at the end of last season. Ken out, Carr in, pay him out what he is owed in his contract and move on. No different to what the Swans did.

But now we’ve committed to this succession plan across this season I don’t really understand the calls to pull the pin on it after one game. I’m not really sure what that achieves.

If the season slips away and finals are out of question, then absolutely it’s time for Ken to move on earlier as we will need to start preparing for 2026 but right now i think we need to let things play out for a bit longer.

I’m not a fan of throwing Josh Carr into the deep end as a knee jerk reaction, he will be coach soon enough, it’s better for the transition to happen at the end of the year and he can start 2026 with a clean slate.


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I agree & disagree with this statement which is weird

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Calling it now: Donuts will walk away at some point this year, and we'll be portrayed as the ungrateful, feral scum that drove the great Kenny Hinkley out of town, and the entire narrative will be "They're your problem now, Josh Carr. Good luck!"

Im honestly not sure about this. The Collingwood game really feels like a "the emprerors not wearing clothes!" moment for a lot of people.

 

[Bump Bailey]

Listen to this absolute horseshit.

You just got spanked by 15 goals in round 1 Travis. You and Hinkley can retire together to some country Victoria shithole today and you can absolutely love him there for the rest of your natural life.

I *ing hate hearing about how much they love him as they shit the bed so badly in every big game that we have to call for a hard rubbish collection. * off.

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“Our players absolutely love him”.

Then why the **** did you put out a completely inept, insipid, embarrassing performance for him at the first opportunity?

Boak is a loser.

 

[Us against the rest]

“Our players absolutely love him”.

Then why the **** did you put out a completely inept, insipid, embarrassing performance for him at the first opportunity?

Boak is a loser.

This is the perfect question that should be put to players, especially Boak.

They love him so much but in important games like Finals, you know the must win games to make a GF they make him look like the worst coach in the AFL (because he is) and show him that's how much the playing group really care.

****ing soft media should be asking these questions, if you want him to remain coach, why do you continually let him down when it counts.

The players need to understand that their lack luster performances like the Collingwood game is what's destroying the coach they love so much, not us supporters, it's about time someone said it publicly to the club and players. Weak bastards all of them.

If it's not the coach then it must be the players, maybe the heat should be applied to them, then maybe we will get some truths.

Maybe I just answered my own question, it's all just fluff.

 

[Duck Farmer]

Looking forward to the players showing more love for Kenny by a home capitulation on Saturday.

 

[PowerLil]

Emotive football simply never works when something's on the line. It's been proven over and over again.

 

[Hammer#8]

The 'Do It For Daddy' speedrun
1. Embarrassing loss
2. Media and fan scrutiny
3. Players back the coach ie 'the boys love Kenny'
4. Backs against the wall win
5. Tears/Where are the Hinkley haters now?!

 

[El_Scorcho]

"Our players love him"

Don't care, didn't ask, not at all relevant to his continued employment, and not something we have to hear about with any other coach in the league because they're all measured on performance.

 

[El_Scorcho]

The 'Do It For Daddy' speedrun
1. Embarrassing loss
2. Media and fan scrutiny
3. Players back the coach ie 'the boys love Kenny'
4. Backs against the wall win
5. Tears/Where are the Hinkley haters now?!

Yep, and that backs against the wall win will be celebrated even if it's against a side who went into the season largely tipped to be wooden spooners, as will no doubt happen against Richmond this week.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Emotive football simply never works when something's on the line. It's been proven over and over again.

Especially when the overriding emotion at this club is anxiety

 

[Bump Bailey]

This is the perfect question that should be put to players, especially Boak.

They love him so much but in important games like Finals, you know the must win games to make a GF they make him look like the worst coach in the AFL (because he is) and show him that's how much the playing group really care.

****ing soft media should be asking these questions, if you want him to remain coach, why do you continually let him down when it counts.

The players need to understand that their lack luster performances like the Collingwood game is what's destroying the coach they love so much, not us supporters, it's about time someone said it publicly to the club and players. Weak bastards all of them.

If it's not the coach then it must be the players, maybe the heat should be applied to them, then maybe we will get some truths.

Maybe I just answered my own question, it's all just fluff.

Like I kinda get it - what are they meant to say when the media asks them about Ken.

But Jesus, surely you can find a happy medium, non-committal padding statement rather than gushing about the bloke in a completely tone-deaf way after you've been flogged into submission on the weekend.

End of the day, we're the losers for caring I guess . And we pay for the privilege.

Over it.

 

[Us against the rest]

Like I kinda get it - what are they meant to say when the media asks them about Ken.

But Jesus, surely you can find a happy medium, non-committal padding statement rather than gushing about the bloke in a completely tone-deaf way after you've been flogged into submission on the weekend.

End of the day, we're the losers for caring I guess . And we pay for the privilege.

Over it.

Yeah I know they have to tow the club line and say we're behind the coach but when we as fans hear them say, we love Kenny so much and we want to do it for Kenny is way over the top.

The sad part is if the players believe what they are saying we have bigger problems than just Ken, do they love him because of the soft atmosphere he creates with lack of consequence for failure, or do they honestly believe he can take them all the way?

 

[Bump Bailey]

Yeah I know they have to tow the club line and say we're behind the coach but when we as fans hear them say, we love Kenny so much and we want to do it for Kenny is way over the top.

The sad part is if the players believe what they are saying we have bigger problems than just Ken, do they love him because of the soft atmosphere he creates with lack of consequence for failure, or do they honestly believe he can take them all the way?

They're products of a consequence-free environment where it's been drummed into them internally that being a good person is more important than being successful and ruthless.

Hence, I think they genuinely believe what they are saying, and why everyone at Port seems to get their backs up when held accountable for poor performances.

It goes against everything that's been ingrained in them, so they genuinely think it's unreasonable scrutiny.

 

[PAFC Since 1870]

I don’t think Boak saying the players love him is a bad thing in the context of an interview. Realistically what do you expect him to say?

I’m personally more annoyed that Donuts is still the coach after failing time and time again and the board have allowed it and endorsed his tenure.

He should have fallen on his sword years ago but here we are in this current circus.

 

[Bump Bailey]

I don’t think Boak saying the players love him is a bad thing in the context of an interview. Realistically what do you expect him to say?

I’m personally more annoyed that Donuts is still the coach after failing time and time again and the board have allowed it and endorsed his tenure.

He should have fallen on his sword years ago but here we are in this current circus.

They lost by 91 points.

Saying you love the coach only days after you downed tools on him and basically gave up is insulting to anyone with a modicum of intelligence.

 

[PAFC Since 1870]

They lost by 91 points.

Saying you love the coach only days after you downed tools on him and basically gave up is insulting to anyone with a modicum of intelligence.

Yeah I get why people are frustrated and annoyed and I’m one of those people.

I’m sure the players themselves are sick of being asked about Ken in interviews.

The performance was completely unacceptable - Round 1 you would think the players would be jumping out of their skin to perform, particularly at the MCG.

Still the anger should be directed towards the board and management who have allowed this to go on for so many years when it’s been clear Ken is not the coach who will win us a GF.

 

[TeeKray]

I'm sure Travis loves his Mum, maybe we should make Chicki Boak our next coach.

Players saying they love their coach is actually something of a red flag. Your coach should be respected not loved.

 

[Ported]

Arc enemy: The damning stats where the 'blaze away Blues' are failing

Riley Beveridge highlights one of Carlton's major areas of concern after last week's horror loss to Richmond

www.afl.com.au

Clubs refer to 'working the arc' as the practice of finding the optimal place to deliver the ball inside-50. The analytics stress that it's often best to patiently work the footy towards the arc, or around the arc, as opposed to immediately banging the ball long and deep from anywhere.

But not at Carlton, where blazing away – often to outnumbered forwards from a variety of non-conducive positions on the ground – has become a feature of a frustrating, misfiring team.

This is so funny.

When did Voss join Port? I wonder who influenced who.

 

[PowerLil]

Arc enemy: The damning stats where the 'blaze away Blues' are failing

Riley Beveridge highlights one of Carlton's major areas of concern after last week's horror loss to Richmond

www.afl.com.au

This is so funny.

When did Voss join Port? I wonder who influenced who.

2015 season.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Arc enemy: The damning stats where the 'blaze away Blues' are failing

Riley Beveridge highlights one of Carlton's major areas of concern after last week's horror loss to Richmond

www.afl.com.au

This is so funny.

When did Voss join Port? I wonder who influenced who.

Maybe 2016 for Vossy just after his stint on the FOX8 show The Recruit.

 

[Us against the rest]

2015 season.

This piece is so damming.

The 34 per cent of deep entry kicks that were delivered from beyond the 'near the arc' area ranked second-most in the League, behind only Port Adelaide. It should be of little surprise the Power also lost badly to the tune of 91 points.

 

[tribey]

Im honestly not sure about this. The Collingwood game really feels like a "the emprerors not wearing clothes!" moment for a lot of people.

• I thought the 2017 Elim would be.

• I thought the 11-4 to 12-10 slide in 2018 would be.

• I thought the Ben Brown Bowl at the end of 2019 would be.

• I thought the 2021 Prelim would be.

• I thought 0-5 to start 2022 would be.

• I thought straight sets in 2023 would be.

• I thought the 2024 Qualifying Final would be.

My burner is still copping laugh reacts from the usual cucks on Facebook following the Collingwood game.

No result can sway these people. A 200 point loss this week wouldn’t do it. They’d just pivot to it being the players fault, and bemoan associated negativity from the ‘haters’.

 

[Alberton Proud]

Calling it now: Donuts will walk away at some point this year, and we'll be portrayed as the ungrateful, feral scum that drove the great Kenny Hinkley out of town, and the entire narrative will be "They're your problem now, Josh Carr. Good luck!"

Sounds good to me

 

[RangaInTeal]

• I thought the 2017 Elim would be.

• I thought the 11-4 to 12-10 slide in 2018 would be.

• I thought the Ben Brown Bowl at the end of 2019 would be.

• I thought the 2021 Prelim would be.

• I thought 0-5 to start 2022 would be.

• I thought straight sets in 2023 would be.

• I thought the 2024 Qualifying Final would be.

My burner is still copping laugh reacts from the usual cucks on Facebook following the Collingwood game.

No result can sway these people. A 200 point loss this week wouldn’t do it. They’d just pivot to it being the players fault, and bemoan associated negativity from the ‘haters’.

2018 was the glaringly obvious point where it became apparent he couldn’t ’coach’ he couldn’t instill confidence in the group or had any idea that may spark the group to swing momentum. We just rocked up each week and copped it…

 

[PAFC66]