Autopsy Round 2, 2022: Hawks disconnect the power

[Ned Ryerson]

A visual representation of Hawthorn’s repudiation of Kane Cornes

Kane Cornes

Age

41

Ht

183cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.5

5star

HB

11.0

5star

M

5.2

5star

T

3.3

5star

CL

2.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.2

3star

’ constant negativity about our list.

 

[Changa10]

I enjoyed that game soo much!

So much fun watching the kids just take the game on and the older guys just adding class.

And I am back to having to apologise to neighbours for me carrying on like a clown at the tv

Same here, and also my dogs clearly forgot what an enjoyable Hawks game was like in our lounge room. Especially the couple of times we delivered a pass to Mitch Lewis that was out in space that allowed him to run onto it and gave the defenders no chance at all. One was from Nash, can't remember who delivered the other one. Dogs were looking at me like I was crazy, lol.

 

[badgrill]

A visual representation of Hawthorn’s repudiation of Kane Cornes’ constant negativity about our list.

View attachment 1357073

haha that is so close to the batman/ robin gif

 

[Oddhawk]

The most pleasing thing for mine (I was at the game with my Power supporting wife after travelling fro east Gippsland specifically for the game) was the seedlings of the unsociable hawks returning.

Nuke, DGB, Worps, Cmac and Moorey all have a little campaigner in them…

It’s beautiful to watch!!

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Coaches votes.

Port Adelaide v Hawthorn

9 Mitch Lewis (HAW)
5 James Sicily

6

James Sicily

Age

29

Ht

188cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

12.7

5star

HB

5.7

4star

M

6.3

5star

T

1.5

3star

MG

365.0

5star

D

19.4

4star

K

14.3

5star

HB

5.1

3star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.0

2star

MG

437.4

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

173.8

3star

(HAW)
5 Dylan Moore

13

Dylan Moore

Age

25

Ht

177cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.9

3star

K

5.1

2star

HB

6.7

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

12.2

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

(HAW)
4 Jack Scrimshaw

14

Jack Scrimshaw

Age

26

Ht

194cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.8

4star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.1

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.4

3star

MG

200.7

3star

D

12.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

5.3

3star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.3

2star

MG

167.0

3star

D

10.2

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

155.6

3star

(HAW)
3 Blake Hardwick

15

Blake Hardwick

Age

27

Ht

183cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.8

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.1

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.7

4star

MG

264.7

4star

D

13.8

3star

K

9.8

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.7

3star

MG

264.7

4star

D

15.0

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.4

4star

(HAW)
2 Jack Gunston

19

Jack Gunston

Age

33

Ht

193cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.5

4star

K

10.5

4star

HB

5.0

4star

M

5.7

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.9

5star

D

10.6

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

4.3

4star

T

1.7

3star

G

1.6

5star

D

11.2

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

0.6

3star

(HAW)
1 Travis Boak

10

Travis Boak

Age

36

Ht

183cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.7

5star

K

11.6

4star

HB

12.0

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

4.4

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

22.0

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

11.0

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

16.4

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

9.0

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.4

4star

(PORT)
1 Sam Powell-Pepper

2

Sam Powell-pepper

Age

26

Ht

187cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.6

4star

K

8.6

3star

HB

9.0

5star

M

2.5

3star

T

5.1

5star

G

0.5

3star

D

13.9

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.1

4star

M

2.2

2star

T

3.3

4star

G

0.3

3star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.4

4star

HB

8.6

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

3.6

5star

G

0.8

4star

(PORT)

 

[eldorado]

Especially the couple of times we delivered a pass to Mitch Lewis that was out in space that allowed him to run onto it and gave the defenders no chance at all. One was from Nash, can't remember who delivered the other one.

Breust

 

[badgrill]

Same here, and also my dogs clearly forgot what an enjoyable Hawks game was like in our lounge room. Especially the couple of times we delivered a pass to Mitch Lewis that was out in space that allowed him to run onto it and gave the defenders no chance at all. One was from Nash, can't remember who delivered the other one. Dogs were looking at me like I was crazy, lol.

a couple to Gunners as well - the joys of an open forward line:

Leads!

Marks!

Easy Set Shot Goals!

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Coaches votes.

Port Adelaide v Hawthorn

9 Mitch Lewis (HAW)
5 James Sicily (HAW)
5 Dylan Moore (HAW)
4 Jack Scrimshaw (HAW)
3 Blake Hardwick (HAW)
2 Jack Gunston (HAW)
1 Travis Boak (PORT)
1 Sam Powell-Pepper (PORT)

Hardwick well deserved being in among our best.

 

[grumbleguts]

Coaches votes.

Port Adelaide v Hawthorn

9 Mitch Lewis (HAW)
5 James Sicily (HAW)
5 Dylan Moore (HAW)
4 Jack Scrimshaw (HAW)
3 Blake Hardwick (HAW)
2 Jack Gunston (HAW)
1 Travis Boak (PORT)
1 Sam Powell-Pepper (PORT)

Quite a weird grouping. Means coaches had VERY different views of who played well. Mitch Lewis takes one of fives. Another must be 3 and 2 because both the 1's are used. One coach had either sic or more as best on and the other didn't rate them.

 

[Bugs1977]

A visual representation of Hawthorn’s repudiation of Kane Cornes’ constant negativity about our list.

View attachment 1357073

Really hope someone has sent this to Cornsey on twitter

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Quite a weird grouping. Means coaches had VERY different views of who played well. Mitch Lewis takes one of fives. Another must be 3 and 2 because both the 1's are used. One coach had either sic or more as best on and the other didn't rate them.

We dominated them without having a dominant mid.

 

[CHUBBSS]

We dominated them without having a dominant mid.

Hinkley was bamboozled

 

[grumbleguts]

We dominated them without having a dominant mid.

Yep. The coaches suffered from the same issues I spoke about at the beginning of this thread, about the difficulty of choosing a best five for the yabby.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

The most pleasing thing for mine (I was at the game with my Power supporting wife after travelling fro east Gippsland specifically for the game) was the seedlings of the unsociable hawks returning.

Nuke, DGB, Worps, Cmac and Moorey all have a little campaigner in them…

It’s beautiful to watch!!

Agree. And whilst Ward doesn't seem like a bad mofo he does go hard at the ball.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Hinkley was bamboozled

Key points:

• our midfield and half-forwards put on excellent pressure, and
• our defensive unit was brilliant

 

[CHUBBSS]

Key points:

• our midfield and half-forwards put on excellent pressure, and
• our defensive unit was brilliant

Reckon overall footy iq has gone up significantly to, that unseen difference

 

[TylerDurden]

Me 6 beers in on Sat night pointing out Mitch Lewis to my son after he drained his 5th.

 

[Brishawk]

Without having checked I would expect more often than not any team starting 2-0 goes on to play finals. Typically (looking at past 5 years or so) you need about 12 wins to make the 8. So you've then got 20 more games to win 10 times. Only needing to go at 50% win rate from that point. If you're good enough to win your first two then you're probably good enough to win at least every second game from there and make finals.

But of course there would be exceptions. Does the fact that one of our wins came against last years spooners and was pretty close discount anything? Does a huge win on the road against one of last years preliminary finalists counter act that?

We'll see, I guess.

I did look up and find that the last team to be on top of the ladder after round 2 and not make finals was West Coast in 2014 (came 9th and every other team who was 2-0 made finals). But they then made the GF the following year after a dominant H&A season. Only faltered because they came up against some kind of generational juggernaut team.

Since 2000, around 75% of teams to record two wins in the first two rounds go on to play finals. But it should be noted, this has happened every year since 2012 and sometimes more than one team - likely something to do with the expansion to an 18 team competition. Of all the teams that record those two wins, 28% go on to play in the grand final and 14% win the flag.

If we look at teams to record 3 wins straight up, 83% play finals with 37% playing off in the grand final. Get 4 straight wins to start the year and the chances of making finals increase to 89% with 49% playing off in the grand final.

So two straight wins is great but four straight wins would catapult us into flag contention. If we knock off Carlton, we meet St Kilda in round 4...

 

[Pessimistic]

If your teams wins is one or two more than losses, and that continues, you are in touch with finals

 

[cuttlefish]

Hardwick well deserved being in among our best.

Deserved to be higher, IMHO.

 

[SSSSSS]

Coaches votes.

Port Adelaide v Hawthorn

9 Mitch Lewis (HAW)
5 James Sicily (HAW)
5 Dylan Moore (HAW)
4 Jack Scrimshaw (HAW)
3 Blake Hardwick (HAW)
2 Jack Gunston (HAW)
1 Travis Boak (PORT)
1 Sam Powell-Pepper (PORT)

Lotta yoof there.

 

[grumbleguts]

There are some ratings in there that are quite baffling, Ryan Burton being rated higher than most of our defenders despite his absolute butchery of the ball being a main one.

It's crazy baffling sometimes. He may have made a few extra spoils. 1%ers make a difference in champion data's ratings.

 

[Brishawk]

It's crazy baffling sometimes. He may have made a few extra spoils. 1%ers make a difference in champion data's ratings.

Most of his shit miss kicks were still retained hence they would be effective under cd categorisation.

 

[grumbleguts]

Most of his shit miss kicks were still retained hence they would be effective under cd categorisation.

Still I'm glad now he's playing for him them.

 

[killerspud]

Come on people - let's get this thread to 20 pages to make up for last week