Team Mgmt. Talk about the makeup of our list - midfield balance, height profile, endurance runners

[eth-dog]

He cant defend though.

He would better used up on a wing in my opinion.

He can defend. Can't have him on the main small but he'll do okay on the second or third most of the time.

 

[citizen-erased]

Redman when playing well is a decent run and carry player, generally good by foot too. He doesn't have the pace of a Saad or Hind, but he's no worse than most running half-backs in the league.

He cant defend though.

He would better used up on a wing in my opinion.

this.
i think he's ok in a super dependable defensive system, but i'd prefer wing or even defensive HFF.
he's a good kick and shot on goal too. boomy and can run at 50 pretty hard.

unpopular, but i'd drop Francis into his role.
He's good defensively and wouldn't need the monsters.

Reid/Cox/Ridley

is the future of our backline.

Laverde, McGrath and one more running defender to fill it out.(Hind for now but someone else hopefully to come)

Durham or McDonagh? were either played defensively in their Richmond VFL days?

 

[Lore]

unpopular, but i'd drop Francis into his role.
He's good defensively and wouldn't need the monsters.

Swapping Redman and Francis would be intriguing, although putting Redman at HFF wouldn’t be the same role Francis has atm as 2nd tall. Once Jones is back the forward line will have a bit of a logjam after Wright, Jones, Stringer. Perkins and Martin take those 4th/5th spots atm.

 

[citizen-erased]

Swapping Redman and Francis would be intriguing, although putting Redman at HFF wouldn’t be the same role Francis has atm as 2nd tall. Once Jones is back the forward line will have a bit of a logjam after Wright, Jones, Stringer. Perkins and Martin take those 4th/5th spots atm.

It would be more the Smith role.
Run and chase, hit the scoreboard when you can.

Ticks for Redman would be he can run. He can apply pressure. He's stronger and taller. And i like how he attacks the 50. So he's useful outside 25m from goal.
Obvious ? is does he have forward smarts? Very different role to how we've used him.

With Francis then going back, i'd bring Stewart up to FF until Jones is back.

Once fully fit and developed, i'd like to see Cox, Perkins and Stringer rotate.
One on ball, one in forward line, the other resting, or covering another midfielder.

So the magnet moves are
Stewart -> Reid
Redman -> Francis
Francis -> Wright
Wright -> Stewart (until Jones is back)
w/ one of Perkins, Cox or Stringer forward.

 

[faible]

It would be more the Smith role.
Run and chase, hit the scoreboard when you can.

Ticks for Redman would be he can run. He can apply pressure. He's stronger and taller. And i like how he attacks the 50. So he's useful outside 25m from goal.
Obvious ? is does he have forward smarts? Very different role to how we've used him.

With Francis then going back, i'd bring Stewart up to FF until Jones is back.

Once fully fit and developed, i'd like to see Cox, Perkins and Stringer rotate.
One on ball, one in forward line, the other resting, or covering another midfielder.

So the magnet moves are
Stewart -> Reid
Redman -> Francis
Francis -> Wright
Wright -> Stewart (until Jones is back)
w/ one of Perkins, Cox or Stringer forward.

From memory wasn’t Redman drafted as a forward?

Edit: yes he was

Pick 30: Mason Redman

Mason Redman is an exciting forward with an excellent burst of speed.

www.essendonfc.com.au

 

[Lore]

From memory wasn’t Redman drafted as a forward?

Edit: yes he was

Pick 30: Mason Redman

Mason Redman is an exciting forward with an excellent burst of speed.

www.essendonfc.com.au

He was a utility in U18s, with Goddard comparisons, and not just a similar face/colouring. Worsfold intending to use him as a forward and Dodoro probably thinking he'd be a mid as with everyone in those days, so naturally he plays as a defender.

 

[TheGrizz]

Swapping Redman and Francis would be intriguing, although putting Redman at HFF wouldn’t be the same role Francis has atm as 2nd tall. Once Jones is back the forward line will have a bit of a logjam after Wright, Jones, Stringer. Perkins and Martin take those 4th/5th spots atm.

Wright, Jones, Stringer, Snelling, Perkins, Walla, Martin is a pretty balanced forward group once we get them all back.

 

[yodellinhank]

Redman when playing well is a decent run and carry player, generally good by foot too. He doesn't have the pace of a Saad or Hind, but he's no worse than most running half-backs in the league.

I think we've seen that Redman's best is pretty good, and his worst is absolutely awful. The gap is too huge.

He can defend. Can't have him on the main small but he'll do okay on the second or third most of the time.

Common theme.

Hopefully Reid can play on the main tall. Though I'm sure he'd star unaccountable on a flank.

 

[ghostdog]

Reid/Cox/Ridley

is the future of our backline.

Laverde, McGrath and one more running defender to fill it out.(Hind for now but someone else hopefully to come)

Alistair Lord

SANFL Player Focus: Alastair Lord (Norwood)

 

[citizen-erased]

From memory wasn’t Redman drafted as a forward?

Edit: yes he was

Pick 30: Mason Redman

Mason Redman is an exciting forward with an excellent burst of speed.

www.essendonfc.com.au

while ago now
Laverde was a HFF/mid.
Now he's our most capable full back!

 

[ant555]

Eventually, probably yes.

Currently, from what I saw him produce in the seconds game on the weekend, he's a little off from busting open the comp.

Really. First year player not ready to break comp open. Well I never.
Of course the conversation was about who we could develop.

 

[andleanback]

He cant defend though.

He would better used up on a wing in my opinion.

Play him as a higher half back. He shouldn’t be playing deep in defence.

 

[bombreys]

I'm using AFL Tables and they're both older. Where are you reading?

It was a Slobbo article where he was potting us/Merrett/Parish. It may have been from last week though.

I checked AFL Tables and stand corrected - they (Hawks/Carl) were both quite a bit younger than us.

 

[faible]

It was a Slobbo article where he was potting us/Merrett/Parish. It may have been from last week though.

I checked AFL Tables and stand corrected - they (Hawks/Carl) were both quite a bit younger than us.

Hawks team last weekend was 24y 11mo and 84.5 games average, Carlton 25y 2m and 76.1, Essendon was 25y 0m and 78.9.

Brisbane was 26y 4m and 104.7 for comparison. You'd expect them to have beaten us.

Adelaide (55), Fremantle(62), West Coast(68*) were all substantially less experienced than the side we rolled out, Carlton (76) and St Kilda (75.9) marginally less experienced. Otherwise every other team was more experienced - Gold Coast and North Melbourne included.

Geelong was the most experienced with 153.7 games average experience. Even Sydney's 'young' team was 102.1 games average, so the third most experienced side rolled out over the weekend.

I'd expect us to finish in the 8-12 range of sides, which is a bit ahead of where we're at for total list age and experience.

 

[boncer34]

Hawks team last weekend was 24y 11mo and 84.5 games average, Carlton 25y 2m and 76.1, Essendon was 25y 0m and 78.9.

Brisbane was 26y 4m and 104.7 for comparison. You'd expect them to have beaten us.

Adelaide (55), Fremantle(62), West Coast(68*) were all substantially less experienced than the side we rolled out, Carlton (76) and St Kilda (75.9) marginally less experienced. Otherwise every other team was more experienced - Gold Coast and North Melbourne included.

Geelong was the most experienced with 153.7 games average experience. Even Sydney's 'young' team was 102.1 games average, so the third most experienced side rolled out over the weekend.

I'd expect us to finish in the 8-12 range of sides, which is a bit ahead of where we're at for total list age and experience.

AFL tables has us younger than Carlton and Hawthorn.

 

[boncer34]

BTW next time can we not get 20 odd notifications about thread changes.

 

[Lore]

BTW next time can we not get 20 odd notifications about thread changes.

20?!

 

[Kakkle]

Not enough or any selfless players in the midfield, who will sacrifice part of their game for the betterment of a teammate or the team as a whole. Individually some very good midfielders capable of winning individual awards but as a collective it's not a very good balance. The midfield is built perfectly if the end goal is to finish 8th-13th.

 

[boncer34]

20?!

 

[Lore]

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Chief I don’t think it’s supposed to send a notification for every single post that was moved surely? I moved them all in one batch so should be one notification… or at worst one notification per origin thread…?

 

[JayJ20]

The midfield is too soft around contests to not be tagging. Backing the midfield head-to-head against the better teams simply won't work. Danger should have been tagged, Neale should have been tagged, Petracca should be tagged, Dusty should be tagged, Bont should be tagged etc. If they're not going to recruit tall and/or heavy mids to protect the players around contests, then at least take the best mid out of the game so the midfield battle becomes a little more even.

This week is probably as bad as it gets in terms of midfield match ups so Rutten has a lot of work to do.

I guess the other problem is who the tagger will be. Not sure who can play that role effectively.

 

[Chief]

Chief I don’t think it’s supposed to send a notification for every single post that was moved surely? I moved them all in one batch so should be one notification… or at worst one notification per origin thread…?

I assume that it does. There are preferences options to summarise alerts so multiples of the same alert don't fill your list.

 

[Lore]

I assume that it does. There are preferences options to summarise alerts so multiples of the same alert don't fill your list.

Well that’s just silly.

 

[Chief]

Well that’s just silly.

Having an option to summarise alerts?

 

[Lore]

Having an option to summarise alerts?

Needing to use an add-on to cope with what I assume is the native behaviour of XenForo when posts are moved. You’d think after 12 years of software development they’d have put in a line of code to address it