News Media Thread, 2023: Insightful, Inciteful and Incomptent

[Tugga27]

Credible if we had a fully fit list.

Yeah, nah.

 

[Ochre]

So we were no chance of the 8 fully fit?

We lost to North round 1 with a pretty good injury list.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Journo mentioned our low attendance last night (36k).

Only 20k attended optus the last time we played the suns.

The year before that 38k in attendance.

So while it suits the narrative, traditionally we dont draw a huge crowd against the suns.

Both those games were subject to capacity restrictions due to Covid.

The last two times we hosted Gold Coast pre-Covid, we got 47k and 51k.

 

[Farang83150]

Both those games were subject to capacity restrictions due to Covid.

The last two times we hosted Gold Coast pre-Covid, we got 47k and 51k.

Not the journo's job to do research though is it!!

 

[KERRPOW]

Not the journo's job to do research though is it!!

Or the casual bigfooty numpty (me)

 

[Dylan82]

So we were no chance of the 8 fully fit?

That's the thing, with a squad so old (and an S&C dept with such a poor record), having a fully fit squad this year was always going to be highly unlikely.

You don't spend the better part of two years winning 1 in 10 matches and losing by on average more than 40 points each game and then just suddenly become finals bound with same list and staff.

 

[ziad]

We lost to North round 1 with a pretty good injury list.

in reality we nearly won - and its the key players that were out

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

in reality we nearly won - and its the key players that were out

“In reality” we were missing Naitanui and Yeo and otherwise had pretty much a full squad to pick from, and we lost to the reigning wooden spooners who are currently in the bottom three, and they got out to a 34 point lead in the second half before we remembered how to football.

 

[peeky]

So we were no chance of the 8 fully fit?

Nope none, if all went well we could of landed 11th or 12th

 

[Tugga27]

From the HS

THE EASYBEATS ARE GETTING EASIER TO BEAT

Has the competition already got the worst bottom three in a decade?

The performances of North Melbourne, West Coast and Hawthorn have evoked memories of the 2012 season when the GWS Giants, Gold Coast Suns and Melbourne were non-competitive.

That was the Giants first season in the competition where they won two games and finished with a horrible percentage of 46.2. Fellow expansion team the Gold Coast Suns won just three games (percentage 60.8) with Melbourne four wins (67.50).

Already after nine rounds the percentage of the Eagles (60.5), Kangaroos (62.9) and Hawks is hovering around similar territory.

The Eagles have a long injury list but those senior players who are on the park are going through the motions. How long Adam Simpson sticks around will be a big discussion point in the coming weeks.

Alastair Clarkson’s glow on North has worn out and they are also veering into non-competitive areas while Hawthorn were again exposed early against Melbourne with the match over by quarter-time.

It is becoming a major problem, in particular for the TV networks, given the matches with these three teams involved are fast becoming non-events.

ROWELL, GINBEY’S WILD TACKLE NUMBERS

If tackling shows a mindset then two youngsters on Friday night in Perth deserve some kudos.

With the first player, the stat won’t surprise given Matt Rowell

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Matt Rowell

Age

23

Ht

180cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

0.8

1star

T

5.2

5star

CL

3.8

5star

D

17.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

0.8

1star

T

5.2

5star

CL

3.8

5star

D

17.4

5star

K

7.6

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

0.8

1star

T

5.2

5star

CL

3.8

5star

in a short space of time has built his reputation about being one of the hardest in-and-under midfielders in the competition.

The Gold Coast gun was one of the best for the Suns in the rout of the Eagles, collecting 29 touches along with a stunning career-high 17 tackles.

On the other side, West Coast defender Reuben Ginbey continues to be a shining light in a horror show.

He showed a penchant for the hard stuff in his first game where he collected 12 tackles but he raised the bar against the Suns, notching up 16.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

When someone is on the front page because they’ve been accused of financial impropriety, accompanying it with a picture of them working in an unrelated industry 23 years ago is an odd choice.

 

[Farang83150]

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When someone is on the front page because they’ve been accused of financial impropriety, accompanying it with a picture of them working in an unrelated industry 23 years ago is an odd choice.

Is the editor a Victorian or something!

 

[Tugga27]

Is the editor a Victorian or something!

No, just a cnut.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Nothing indicated that 2023 should be any different to 2021 or 2022.

With 7 players aged over 31 before the end of the season, combined with the poor track record of injury prevention and management, there was ample room for a crisis of the proportions that we are currently seeing.

Any consideration of a finish outside of the bottom 4 was utterly groundless.

I agree with this up until the consideration we could finish outside the bottom four. I figured we be able to beat North, Hawthorn snagging us three wins. I rightly didn't rate GWS going into the season and figured teams like that could be beaten.

Without knowing much about how West Coast or any other club operates internally it's impossible to assess how 2023 could be different to past seasons. The high level of impact injuries is new and not related to anything beyond playing style & bad luck.




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[Truckosaurus]

Wait, what did we trade him back for?

 

[Priddis Is Done]

Just to clarify, Fitzpatrick said that at the start of the year they thought they’d be pushing for the eight.

But agree it was borderline delusional - unless we had full availability of all players who would all play to the peak of their abilities. (And I don’t think even then would we have been a serious flag contender.)

They thought they could get the band back together one more time and turn back time.

They've been trying to do it for 4 years now.

You'd think the penny would drop at some stage. Heck there were supporters on here thinking the same thing in the off-season.

 

[Keys]

 

[Grahame]

They thought they could get the band back together one more time and turn back time.

They've been trying to do it for 4 years now.

You'd think the penny would drop at some stage. Heck there were supporters on here thinking the same thing in the off-season.

Classic case of overpromising and under delivering.

 

[WCE_phil]

Not making the 8 but pushing for the 8 with a full list playing at their best. Put Sheed and Kelly on a wing, Nicnat, Yeo, Shuey, Ginbey as your centre square with a fully fit Mcgovern down back, fully fit Ryan, Darling, Cripps up forward.

I'm not saying we would have made the top 8, but pushing for it was within the realms of possibility. After seeing our preseason I thought we could win 10 or so games if everything went well.

Now I also knew not everything would go well but if you give us a Melbourne 2021 injury list it's quite possible.

FB Hough Barrass Duggan
HB Jones McGovern Hunt
C Sheed Yeo Kelly
HF Cripps Darling Ryan
FF Long Allen Waterman
R Nicnat Shuey Ginbey
I Culley Bazzo Petruccelle Hurn/Witherden

Now that's not an amazing best 22 but with everyone fit it's certainly enough to challenge for top 8.

 

[Goroyals22]

Not making the 8 but pushing for the 8 with a full list playing at their best. Put Sheed and Kelly on a wing, Nicnat, Yeo, Shuey, Ginbey as your centre square with a fully fit Mcgovern down back, fully fit Ryan, Darling, Cripps up forward.

I'm not saying we would have made the top 8, but pushing for it was within the realms of possibility. After seeing our preseason I thought we could win 10 or so games if everything went well.

Now I also knew not everything would go well but if you give us a Melbourne 2021 injury list it's quite possible.

FB Hough Barrass Duggan
HB Jones McGovern Hunt
C Sheed Yeo Kelly
HF Cripps Darling Ryan
FF Long Allen Waterman
R Nicnat Shuey Ginbey
I Culley Bazzo Petruccelle Hurn/Witherden

Now that's not an amazing best 22 but with everyone fit it's certainly enough to challenge for top 8.

We were no way going to win 10 games.. all of if not most of them played at the back end of last year and we were still getting flogged with ease… another year older with the credits crew and we still would be down the bottom of the ladder….

Anyway I just happened to stumble across an interview with Sumich from yesterday…
Beside unloading on the midfield coaches ( fair call) and Steve trewhella as the development coach( jobs for the boys being best mates with Gavin bell and his only footy job has been in a suit not development) he dropped a zinger…

Even though McGovern has signed a two year deal Judd was in town to speak to him about still coming to Carlton…… now it’s unlikely but if he has signed at least we control the negotiations not Carlton.

 

[bzparkes]

We were no way going to win 10 games.. all of if not most of them played at the back end of last year and we were still getting flogged with ease… another year older with the credits crew and we still would be down the bottom of the ladder….

Anyway I just happened to stumble across an interview with Sumich from yesterday…
Beside unloading on the midfield coaches ( fair call) and Steve trewhella as the development coach( jobs for the boys being best mates with Gavin bell and his only footy job has been in a suit not development) he dropped a zinger…

Even though McGovern has signed a two year deal Judd was in town to speak to him about still coming to Carlton…… now it’s unlikely but if he has signed at least we control the negotiations not Carlton.

Judd hasn't had any formal role at Carlton since the end of '21.

Just as likely to be doing some speaking arrangement at WCE, as he's done in the past, than to be trying to poach a contracted player.

Sounds like bullshit from Suma again, to me.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

I know plenty of elements of the club seem incompetent at the moment, but surely they wouldn’t have welcomed an ex-player into the clubrooms with open arms and promote the visit if he was there to try to sign a player away.

 

[bzparkes]

I know plenty of elements of the club seem incompetent at the moment, but surely they wouldn’t have welcomed an ex-player into the clubrooms with open arms and promote the visit if he was there to try to sign a player away.

Depends. Was it the NGA people who arranged it?

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

That’s definitely what we need, Goss - a 37 year old.

 

[Keys]

That’s definitely what we need, Goss - a 37 year old.

Might as well bring JK back as well

**** me there’s some stupid journalists