List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets

[Joao]

I think the silver lining to the clean cut nature of the group at the moment is the personality type we seem to have targeted over the last few years has resulted in a squad that is remarkably cohesive, aligned, and enjoying each others company - while remaining highly motivated and driven. Which is a bit of a tightrope I think, incredibly high standards generally means being uncomfortable - but you also want to keep morale high. Club seems to have done a pretty good job walking that line from my outside perspective.

But yeah, I wouldn't be opposed to bring Baker in, if we're not overpaying, to bring a bit of bulldog to the fight.

I don't think Baker is any more bulldog than Ryan, Treacy or Clark, but I do agree he would add something. I just don't want to pay the salary price for him.

 

[dominguez]

I think Walters will but when Fyfe retires it will be to sit on a hilltop in Tibet

Assuming he has invested his money well Fyfe could be worth around 10 million + his families transport company employs a lot of people so he's not short on cash. Also seems like he plays footy because he's really good at it, not because he loves it so I can see him being like Tony Lockett and Buddy Franklin and walking away from the game when he retires.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Any news on Banfield and Sturts contracts

 

[Docker82]

Any news on Banfield and Sturts contracts

This is actually pretty bloody weird. You’ve mentioned probably the first two priorities but there’s 2-3 others I’d consider almost certain to get deals for next year tbh.

No contract news whatsoever for ages and not a single peep from the journos linking any of our players to other clubs. Most years lately we’ve had one or two minimum all but gone by now.

The club seems too promoting their retro round stuff this week but perhaps we’ll start hearing stuff soon.

 

[Docker82]

As I say that there’s some news.

Josh Draper out to 2027 and upgraded to the senior list in 2026.

 

[Purple Suit]

This is actually pretty bloody weird. You’ve mentioned probably the first two priorities but there’s 2-3 others I’d consider almost certain to get deals for next year tbh.

No contract news whatsoever for ages and not a single peep from the journos linking any of our players to other clubs. Most years lately we’ve had one or two minimum all but gone by now.

The club seems too promoting their retro round stuff this week but perhaps we’ll start hearing stuff soon.

No news is good news when it comes to contracts. Either no one is chasing them so no story or they are basically done deals so the exact timing of the announcement isn't important.

Clubs seem to be like ASX companies at the moment and time their releases when they need to.

 

[s_wd6]

This is actually pretty bloody weird. You’ve mentioned probably the first two priorities but there’s 2-3 others I’d consider almost certain to get deals for next year tbh.

No contract news whatsoever for ages and not a single peep from the journos linking any of our players to other clubs. Most years lately we’ve had one or two minimum all but gone by now.

The club seems too promoting their retro round stuff this week but perhaps we’ll start hearing stuff soon.

We’ve offered Banners a 2+ year contract.

There were Clark and Simpson extensions early this year but I don’t recall anything since

 

[Docker82]

We’ve offered Banners a 2+ year contract.

There were Clark and Simpson extensions early this year but I don’t recall anything since

That’s what I mean - Usually we’re going crazy re-signing players after the bye.

There’s probably around 4-5 out of contract players I’d really want on our list next year and the rest I’m not too fussed. I’d probably re-sign 7-8 of who’s left tbh.

It does feel like we got the big boys signed (i.e. Cox, Darcy etc.) signed up real early. Brayshaw and Clark were the only real big names next year from memory - Simpson and Draper had the potential to become pretty important signatures too. We’re down to just Brayshaw now.

A lot of the inactivity imo is due to us only really having three (Banfield, Sturt and Wagner) best 25 players out of contract at the bye. Even at the bye I doubt the club thought Sturt or Wagner were as import as they look since.

I think Knobel (needs more time), Jones (needs more time), Emmett (good depth), Voss (good depth) and NOD (best 22 potential as soon as next year) should be re-signed as well. I liked Stanley last year but I’ve been a touch disappointed this year - maybe he gets a deal if the space is there.

 

[Retzlaff]

I think the silver lining to the clean cut nature of the group at the moment is the personality type we seem to have targeted over the last few years has resulted in a squad that is remarkably cohesive, aligned, and enjoying each others company - while remaining highly motivated and driven. Which is a bit of a tightrope I think, incredibly high standards generally means being uncomfortable - but you also want to keep morale high. Club seems to have done a pretty good job walking that line from my outside perspective.

But yeah, I wouldn't be opposed to bring Baker in, if we're not overpaying, to bring a bit of bulldog to the fight.

It’s not a silver lining of our approach, it’s a design feature

 

[CaseySibosadoHOF]

That’s what I mean - Usually we’re going crazy re-signing players after the bye.

There’s probably around 4-5 out of contract players I’d really want on our list next year and the rest I’m not too fussed. I’d probably re-sign 7-8 of who’s left tbh.

It does feel like we got the big boys signed (i.e. Cox, Darcy etc.) signed up real early. Brayshaw and Clark were the only real big names next year from memory - Simpson and Draper had the potential to become pretty important signatures too. We’re down to just Brayshaw now.

A lot of the inactivity imo is due to us only really having three (Banfield, Sturt and Wagner) best 25 players out of contract at the bye. Even at the bye I doubt the club thought Sturt or Wagner were as import as they look since.

I think Knobel (needs more time), Jones (needs more time), Emmett (good depth), Voss (good depth) and NOD (best 22 potential as soon as next year) should be re-signed as well. I liked Stanley last year but I’ve been a touch disappointed this year - maybe he gets a deal if the space is there.

We've gone fairly scattergun approach with regards to players we've been linked with. May well be that we're basically waiting to have a better idea who we're getting this trade/FA period.

There are names there as you mentioned who we should know that we want to keep by now regardless of anything, but maybe even in those cases (in particular someone like Sturt), there's player-side factors. Extending this run and proving that it's not a flash in the pan and he's now capable of having effective games that don't blow you away stat-wise (eg: Derby) will mean he can demand and get more from his next deal.

 

[serial_thrilla]

We’ve offered Banners a 2+ year contract.

There were Clark and Simpson extensions early this year but I don’t recall anything since

Bailey is a Colin Young client, which is always a worry.

Only a few left now: Banfield, Johnson, Chapman, Walters, Williams and Taberner.

 

[Arcassius]

Johnson and Chappie are the two priorities imo

 

[FreoGirl]

Johnson and Chappie are the two priorities imo

at least Banners has been offered a contract

 

[Taylor]

Johnson and Chappie are the two priorities imo

Johnson is contracted for two years after this season, Chapman for three.

 

[Docker82]

Johnson is contracted for two years after this season, Chapman for three.

Colin Young will be out of the picture by then if he isn’t already.

 

[doppo]

It’s not a silver lining of our approach, it’s a design feature

Potentially - although I would say the current list design strategy began with a strong no dickhead policy being instated after years of off field drama ie. more avoiding certain types rather than starting with a prototype, but it’s much of a muchness

 

[FreoBraddles]

Bailey is a Colin Young client, which is always a worry.

Only a few left now: Banfield, Johnson, Chapman, Walters, Williams and Taberner.

Jackson has signed with CSA too now.

But Young is no longer with CSA directly, just assists as a consultant occasionally.

 

[freo_leo29]

That’s what I mean - Usually we’re going crazy re-signing players after the bye.

There’s probably around 4-5 out of contract players I’d really want on our list next year and the rest I’m not too fussed. I’d probably re-sign 7-8 of who’s left tbh.

It does feel like we got the big boys signed (i.e. Cox, Darcy etc.) signed up real early. Brayshaw and Clark were the only real big names next year from memory - Simpson and Draper had the potential to become pretty important signatures too. We’re down to just Brayshaw now.

A lot of the inactivity imo is due to us only really having three (Banfield, Sturt and Wagner) best 25 players out of contract at the bye. Even at the bye I doubt the club thought Sturt or Wagner were as import as they look since.

I think Knobel (needs more time), Jones (needs more time), Emmett (good depth), Voss (good depth) and NOD (best 22 potential as soon as next year) should be re-signed as well. I liked Stanley last year but I’ve been a touch disappointed this year - maybe he gets a deal if the space is there.

Pretty sure a bloke came from the clouds claiming that Wagner had signed for 2 years and then disappeared again. (With like 95% of his posts being about Wagner)

I'd say its pretty safe to assume Wags has his 2 year deal wrapped up

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Pretty sure a bloke came from the clouds claiming that Wagner had signed for 2 years and then disappeared again. (With like 95% of his posts being about Wagner)

I'd say its pretty safe to assume Wags has his 2 year deal wrapped up

I didnt put that together when they posted and now that I think about it, that's at least the third confirmed friend/family member of a Freo player on here (Pearce and Stanley have relatives around the place). Just a friendly reminder to think how things are phrased before posting

 

[CapitalA]

I mean, baker certainly hasn't performed consistently this year


Maybe because his team is bottom of the ladder? Something that Zurhaar has had to deal with for the last 5 years (while being a forward 50 player)



Just have to call out that people saying he doesn't fit our culture when you can name multiple players on our list that go about it the same way as Zurhaar.

Nothing to do with Richmond being bottom of the ladder. Liam Baker has never been consistent, he is a bad trade target.

 

[freo_leo29]

I didnt put that together when they posted and now that I think about it, that's at least the third confirmed friend/family member of a Freo player on here (Pearce and Stanley have relatives around the place). Just a friendly reminder to think how things are phrased before posting

I remember Joshy Deluca had someone on here


I think theres another current player that has someone but the player is escaping me rn

 

[thistimeforsure]

Don't value him high enough against their current smalls? Against who exactly - Liam Ryan and a bunch of hacks? Not sure any of their other small forwards bar Brockman would even be considered for games elsewhere tbh.

Id definitely have Noah Long amongst the handful of good young players they have for the future


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[thistimeforsure]

Yep they would be no1 with Pies close 2nd.

I think this is the wrong way to look at it , you are making predictions about teams when you are better off using probability

The best team to trade for their F1st is this years premier* , the 2nd best is the runner up and so on

* I’m sure if by some amazing chance it is us people will be throwing our future picks around like confetti…. would also be a mistake IMO


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[Joao]

I think this is the wrong way to look at it , you are making predictions about teams when you are better off using probability

The best team to trade for their F1st is this years premier* , the 2nd best is the runner up and so on

* I’m sure if by some amazing chance it is us people will be throwing our future picks around like confetti…. would also be a mistake IMO


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I did, it's highly probable that the two teams relying the most on players 30+ are the most likely to get worse.

If you wanted to do what you said, you'd probably want to start by checking the odds on 1st, 2nd etc dropping down the ladder in any given year. Have a look at the list demographics on average and how the current ones compare.

I'm pretty happy with my armchair analysis of picking the two oldest lists.

 

[Fat Nyfe]

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