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Snuffaluphagus
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Reportedly he has not been invited to first night of the draft.
Unlikely to got top 20
Gerreyn if he had been drafted at the same time as Neale would have played every game Darcy, Jackson or Treacy would have been out injured.We have Knobel developing for Darcy's long term role
Logue is completely relevant, its the exact scenario I'm talking about, I won't go over it again as I already have
I agree with Geelong drafting Neale, now go and look at the ages of Hawkins and Cameron when that draft pick happened, I am completely happy to revisit this when Treacy and Amiss are those ages, in fact, I'd say thats the perfect time to invest. Neale has taken time to develop and now that he is at the level, he can see a path into the team, great list management, I hope we do that!
The rest of your comment is mostly Darcy related, in which case Jackson needs to step up and we have Knobel developing and looking promising.
Voss looks like break glass in case of emergency depth.I’m probably less bullish on Voss than others. He’s reasonable depth, but was still pretty underwhelming in some of those crunch games at the end of the season and Jones is still a project player. Why not keep augmenting your KPF stock until you have undeniable quality in your depth?
Voss looks like break glass in case of emergency depth.
And why I don't mind us looking at Gerreyn. But I'm pretty confident there will be a range of decent options at our 2nd pick.Yes he is that's why I don't mind us looking at Shanahan
If we draft any KPPs with either of our first two picks we've lost the plot.
Theoretically there's still plenty of room for development in Voss. Judging a key position player on their first few games ain't something you can do with a hell a lot of confidence.I’m probably less bullish on Voss than others. He’s reasonable depth, but was still pretty underwhelming in some of those crunch games at the end of the season and Jones is still a project player. Why not keep augmenting your KPF stock until you have undeniable quality in your depth?
What do you think Bolton is? He’s also an AFL quality midfielder, hence why he usually doesn’t live in the forward pocket.You could say the same about inside mids.
I only want outside mids/flankers with speed and class and small forwards.
I really don't want to go into the next year with no AFL quality forward pockets on our list.
What do you think Bolton is? He’s also an AFL quality midfielder, hence why he usually doesn’t live in the forward pocket.
Hang on wasn't there a quote from Briety or Walls about going best available at our first pick? With all the talk of North and Melbourne going tall and Richmond having so many picks don't be surprised if it ends up being an inside mid. Particularly one with a demonstrated second position.
Let’s be honest we NEED a forth and probably fifth inside mid to step up in support of Brayshaw, Serong and Young.
Of course it’s big ifs but if one or none of Johnson, NOD and Erasmus step up and we don’t get anyone in through trade we’ll be looking back in a few years asking ourselves why the **** we didn’t draft an inside mid.
And yes a second position and/or ability to to compliment the Brayshaw, Serong and Young is pretty important but certainly not against drafting an inside mid with pick 14.
A player exactly like Erasmus in his pre draft profile would be drooled over. A midfielder who can play forward, we would all want him, he could rotate with Young- who was half back to high half back/wing in his draft.
We just need motivated bodies with weapons like speed or skills. If they are taller they can be less speedy as long as they catch the ball, if they are smaller they really need to be faster but it all balances out.
We get more tokens to spend on attributes with our earlier pick so hopefully there's a great footy player there we can find a space for in the team eventually.
Clarifying
When I talk about inside mids, I was talking about players like Fyfe and Erasmus.
Brayshaw, Serong, Young are also decent on the outside, especially Young.
I wouldn't call them inside mids, maybe centre square mids.
I would be happy with another Young, but not another Erasmus as you can fit one of these players in your team.
I agree we should be not relying on Johnson or Erasmus being AFL standard inside mids. Erasmus is still closer to a bust than making it in my view even if he's not quite in Dow territory yet. (He was looking much better the back month of the season. Don't give me any 'He just won a Simpson Medal' talk though people. Did it make Milan Murdoch an AFL player? Luke Meadows? Blakely?? Connor was 6 months younger at that point too). They might, again in particular Johnson. NOD becoming a FT inside mid is a fantasy imv. He can try and make the full strength team first on the near wing then worry about getting a rotation.Let’s be honest we NEED a forth and probably fifth inside mid to step up in support of Brayshaw, Serong and Young.
Of course it’s big ifs but if one or none of Johnson, NOD and Erasmus step up and we don’t get anyone in through trade we’ll be looking back in a few years asking ourselves why the **** we didn’t draft an inside mid.
And yes a second position and/or ability to to compliment the Brayshaw, Serong and Young is pretty important but certainly not against drafting an inside mid with pick 14.
That could well be Lindsay or Hotton. I’m fine with either.I agree we should be not relying on Johnson or Erasmus being AFL standard inside mids. Erasmus is still closer to a bust than making it in my view even if he's not quite in Dow territory yet. (He was looking much better the back month of the season. Don't give me any 'He just won a Simpson Medal' talk though people. Did it make Milan Murdoch an AFL player? Luke Meadows? Blakely?? Connor was 6 months younger at that point too). They might, again in particular Johnson. NOD becoming a FT inside mid is a fantasy imv. He can try and make the full strength team first on the near wing then worry about getting a rotation.
This doesn't mean we should reach past a flanker at 14, but if plays out that an inside mid is clearly the best available just take them.
Two theories - they don't think it's his best development path (they see a better alternative as working into the mid rotations), or what they saw of his attributes through training wasn't enough to convince them he could fulfil the role at forward level.Still frustrates me we never really tried Erasmus as a medium forward to get him into the team.
Would rather him go to a Victorian celler dweller than West Coast.
Seems odds on there's some requirement they're wanting him to meet developmentally. Especially given it's sometimes unclear why he gets dropped over others more worthy of the crosshairs.Two theories - they don't think it's his best development path (they see a better alternative as working into the mid rotations), or what they saw of his attributes through training wasn't enough to convince them he could fulfil the role at forward level.
I agree though it did seem a little strange they didn't try it out more.