List Mgmt. 2024 List Management Part 2 📃

[Bagger24]

Out:

marchbank
Cunners
Martin
Young
Carroll
Owies
Kennedy
Akuei
Mirkov
S. Durdin

In:
Campos x 2
11 (berry)
12 (Hotton)
Konstanty
Haynes
Papley (salary dump for swans and they keep Warner from going to Perth-future 2nd rounder and take his salary)
DGB
Laverde
Boyd upgrade



F1 and owies for 12 with GC.

This is what I think will be our off season. DGB and laverde cheap KPDs konstanty and papley from an elite Sydney squad. Hit the draft and get berry another small forward also allows durdin (better mid imo), and Fogarty to play midfield. Get hotton so Elijah hollands can play full inside mid. Changes our midfield immensely. No need for Houston. Go bluss



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[Just Kreuzing]

You said this indicating speed is a big factor… Stats apparently don’t matter.

I made a point that Lohmann is not quick and you didn’t disagree. Do you like his athleticism or his stats sheet? I think Motlop’s highlights reel is pretty good if you look at it versus games played. He doesn’t have a premiership medal to prove it though.

In regards to your query about bringing up trading and that nobody said anything about it - I am sorry you can’t read between the lines…. But Petrucelle has speed to burn. But you don’t care about stats. So I thought we should trade for him based on your critical assessment.

So therefore now that you have been shown the read between the lines, my point was relevant.

Your reply had no context to the post I was referring too which implied Cameron & Motlop were comparable in pace & goal kicking.

IMO Cameron is well ahead in both areas….

Lohman is quick, athletic and agile for his role and has nothing to do with the Cameron & Motlop comparison I was referring too.

“Big factor” are your words….

 

[Lukeblueboy]

Out:

marchbank
Cunners
Martin
Young
Carroll
Owies
Kennedy
Akuei
Mirkov
S. Durdin

In:
Campos x 2
11 (berry)
12 (Hotton)
Konstanty
Haynes
Papley (salary dump for swans and they keep Warner from going to Perth-future 2nd rounder and take his salary)
DGB
Laverde
Boyd upgrade



F1 and owies for 12 with GC.

This is what I think will be our off season. DGB and laverde cheap KPDs konstanty and papley from an elite Sydney squad. Hit the draft and get berry another small forward also allows durdin (better mid imo), and Fogarty to play midfield. Get hotton so Elijah hollands can play full inside mid. Changes our midfield immensely. No need for Houston. Go bluss



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Great work mate
I’d be very happy with the above as well

 

[Bletch]

Out:

marchbank
Cunners
Martin
Young
Carroll
Owies
Kennedy
Akuei
Mirkov
S. Durdin

In:
Campos x 2
11 (berry)
12 (Hotton)
Konstanty
Haynes
Papley (salary dump for swans and they keep Warner from going to Perth-future 2nd rounder and take his salary)
DGB
Laverde
Boyd upgrade



F1 and owies for 12 with GC.

This is what I think will be our off season. DGB and laverde cheap KPDs konstanty and papley from an elite Sydney squad. Hit the draft and get berry another small forward also allows durdin (better mid imo), and Fogarty to play midfield. Get hotton so Elijah hollands can play full inside mid. Changes our midfield immensely. No need for Houston. Go bluss



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Need to add a spot for Lord and Duffy. But Boyd upgrade doesn't count for overall list places.

 

[Gointocarlton]

Out:

marchbank
Cunners
Martin
Young
Carroll
Owies
Kennedy
Akuei
Mirkov
S. Durdin

In:
Campos x 2
11 (berry)
12 (Hotton)
Konstanty
Haynes
Papley (salary dump for swans and they keep Warner from going to Perth-future 2nd rounder and take his salary)
DGB
Laverde
Boyd upgrade



F1 and owies for 12 with GC.

This is what I think will be our off season. DGB and laverde cheap KPDs konstanty and papley from an elite Sydney squad. Hit the draft and get berry another small forward also allows durdin (better mid imo), and Fogarty to play midfield. Get hotton so Elijah hollands can play full inside mid. Changes our midfield immensely. No need for Houston. Go bluss



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DGB?

 

[Christou2Kouta]

How would people feel if we end with

Pick 11
Pick 12
Ben Campo
Lucas Campo

Haynes
A very good mature player
Handy mature player
Handy mature role player

McCartin as rookie or late pick
Then trial a few for SSP over summer

I’m getting greedy but if we retained pick 31 and a bid for Ben came after that, I’d like to see us draft a KPF/2nd ruck option like Kayle Gerreyn.

Take Ben with our next pick/remaining points and have Lucas slide to the rookie draft.

Lemmey can switch back to be a potential partner for Weitering and Gerreyn can work in tandem with O’Keeffe in the 2s.


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[Blueyourmyboy!!]

How would people feel if we end with

Pick 11
Pick 12
Ben Campo
Lucas Campo

Haynes
A very good mature player
Handy mature player
Handy mature role player

McCartin as rookie or late pick
Then trial a few for SSP over summer

A few good kpds in the 2nd round I hope we draft 1 aswell

 

[Bletch]

Ok, let's have a proper look:

Out:

marchbank
Cunners
Martin
Young
Carroll (Jack I assume?)
Owies
Kennedy
Akuei
Mirkov
S. Durdin

This takes 7 off the senior list, 2 off the rookie list, and 1 off the Cat-B rookie list. Lord takes up one of the rookie spots, and Duffy the Cat-B spot. Boyd moves from rookie to senior list. That leaves 6 senior and 2 rookie spots.

In:
Campos x 2
11 (berry)
12 (Hotton)
Konstanty
Haynes
Papley (salary dump for swans and they keep Warner from going to Perth-future 2nd rounder and take his salary)
DGB
Laverde

That's 9 players. Potentially we might be able to pick up Lucas Campo as a rookie, but the rest of that list would have to go on the senior list. So we'd have to delist and re-rookie one current player, and find another player to delist if you wanted all of those Ins.

 

[HarryFlashman]

Ok, let's have a proper look:

Out:

marchbank
Cunners
Martin
Young
Carroll (Jack I assume?)
Owies
Kennedy
Akuei
Mirkov
S. Durdin

This takes 7 off the senior list, 2 off the rookie list, and 1 off the Cat-B rookie list. Lord takes up one of the rookie spots, and Duffy the Cat-B spot. Boyd moves from rookie to senior list. That leaves 6 senior and 2 rookie spots.

In:
Campos x 2
11 (berry)
12 (Hotton)
Konstanty
Haynes
Papley (salary dump for swans and they keep Warner from going to Perth-future 2nd rounder and take his salary)
DGB
Laverde

That's 9 players. Potentially we might be able to pick up Lucas Campo as a rookie, but the rest of that list would have to go on the senior list. So we'd have to delist and re-rookie one current player, and find another player to delist if you wanted all of those Ins.

You can chop Laverde from that list - if he’s not good enough for * he’s not good enough for us.
He’s not a good footballer

 

[Bagger24]

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DGB?

Denver Grainger Barass from hawks was pick six a few years back highly rate him, hope his high on the list of Austin’s


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[Bagger24]

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You can chop Laverde from that list - if he’s not good enough for * he’s not good enough for us.
He’s not a good footballer

Fair enough do feel like we need another cheap KPD, serong DGB from hawks? Surely with Sicily frost and now barass and battle they both look elsewhere. Also like Dougal Howard. Was great at port and not in favour atm at the saints. Durdin and young I don’t rate and both easily replaceable


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[FitzroyBlueBagger]

You can chop Laverde from that list - if he’s not good enough for * he’s not good enough for us.
He’s not a good footballer

Add DGB to that list too…

 

[Bagger24]

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Add DGB to that list too…

Which cheap KPDs would you like? Serong and Howard?


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[BIuebagger]

I personally think re-calibrating the list this off season is exactly what we need, and if we do it really well, it’s going to solve a couple of issues coming to selection which is always a hot topic for our club. Doing it well is how it looks through Soapy’s post ->

3-4 talented youngsters (11, 12 - attained in trading F1, Campo x 2)
3-4 seasoned players (Haynes - still think we need a KPD, a HFF, a Small Fwd and maybe a dynamic styled mid) who will help hopefully more reliance on team as whole than the sum of its parts.
Plus a rookie or two/SSP spot if available. Austin would need to NAIL those picks at 11 and 12.

Alongside that clearing the deadwood and injury prone players who have taken up list spaces, due to their talent and our hopefulness, being cleared out.

Add this to that young group of Binns, Lord, Moir, HOK, Lemmey, Wilson to yet get much exposure. It takes a good pre season and a chance or two to keep a spot - Cowan a fantastic Eg.
Played 7 games in his first year. Played 17 in year 2 and has been imo one of our most improved. Love how he goes about his footy. It just takes a couple of this group to make the jump. Not all of them are guaranteed.

I would be rapt with this type of outcome. Let North burn their money and high picks on Houston. Only makes sense if we know if 2 of Newman, Saad and Doc are finishing up very soon. Austin should not blink first here. But list balance and re-calibration is the goal.

 

[I bleed Blue]

How would people feel if we end with

Pick 11
Pick 12
Ben Campo
Lucas Campo

Haynes
A very good mature player
Handy mature player
Handy mature role player

McCartin as rookie or late pick
Then trial a few for SSP over summer

Like it in principle.

Depends who these mature players are and what positions they fill.

If it helps balance our list all for it

 

[DangerousD]

How would people feel if we end with

Pick 11
Pick 12
Ben Campo
Lucas Campo

Haynes
A very good mature player
Handy mature player
Handy mature role player

McCartin as rookie or late pick
Then trial a few for SSP over summer

There needs to be some player acquisitions in there from other clubs, to me this looks good on paper but guarantees little, the last 10 years is full of teams having multiple top picks and stuffing them.

We need a few role players in positions of need

 

[BlueJet]

Out:

marchbank
Cunners
Martin
Young
Carroll
Owies
Kennedy
Akuei
Mirkov
S. Durdin

In:
Campos x 2
11 (berry)
12 (Hotton)
Konstanty
Haynes
Papley (salary dump for swans and they keep Warner from going to Perth-future 2nd rounder and take his salary)
DGB
Laverde
Boyd upgrade



F1 and owies for 12 with GC.

This is what I think will be our off season. DGB and laverde cheap KPDs konstanty and papley from an elite Sydney squad. Hit the draft and get berry another small forward also allows durdin (better mid imo), and Fogarty to play midfield. Get hotton so Elijah hollands can play full inside mid. Changes our midfield immensely. No need for Houston. Go bluss



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They have Reid & probably Parker coming off the books, they shouldn't have too much difficulty in freeing up space for Warner, should he wish to stay.
In any event, Papley would have no shortage of suitors. There's no need for them to move him on for minimal return.

 

[Beyond Blue]

IDK why there is so much love for Hotton. He won’t play next year due to his knee injury. If we have 2 players first round picks I hope it’s Travaglia and Berry.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

IDK why there is so much love for Hotton. He won’t play next year due to his knee injury. If we have 2 players first round picks I hope it’s Travaglia and Berry.

It’s not just about next year though. The kid projects as a gun. But he actually could play the back half anyways.

We aren’t going to the draft this year thinking 1st year draftees are going to get us a premiership. Hotton could have 12 plus years, so missing a few months in his 1st year I don’t think Austin and co will remove him from their draft board for this reason.

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

Which cheap KPDs would you like? Serong and Howard?


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He hasn’t developed at a level that would be required as a capable tall defender/player to forge a career that can compete at afl level, my brother is a hawks supporter and I’ve watched them a fair bit for decades and also his career a bit, we talk about each other’s teams which we’ve discussed his progress as well…

Unfortunately not all high end draft prospects make it, he’s been tried as a defender as well as a forward, just doesn’t have the ability on his development and output as either a tall defender or forward…

If he had, then he would have certainly been a more regular player in a rebuilding team, the reason that they have been heavily involved in chasing to land key defenders should be a indication to where they think he’s future actually lies…

Imo…

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

Which cheap KPDs would you like? Serong and Howard?


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Fremantle have a deep list of KP and tall defenders on their list, Ollie Murphy a 200cm KPD Vic Metro from Sandringham Dragons is only a year into his career, I’d be asking the question to his manager, a developing type but a great deal of potential…

As for a ready made KPD Brennan Cox 26yrs 195cm 111 games, not sure if players or club would be interested or willing to trade, maybe for the right price, possibly highly unlikely, these two would be the type either for the future or the now…

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

Sorry Kreuze. Didn’t realise that hierarchy existed in this forum.
Did I step into the Masonic lodge by accident?

Close.

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[Jacks Seething Rage]

I Like Houston at our price, but appears increasingly unlikely.

Otherwise, load up on as many good picks as possible. More rookie scale contracts to balance the list, sign up our two most important players who are heading into free agency, and maybe room for a FA or two of our own next year.

 

[Soapy V]

I’ve got a little faith in big Durds, there’s a player there if my some minor miracle he gets his body right.

In the brief patches he was fit & had a little continuity , I think he had Young covered comfortably, disposals is sharper, reads the play quicker and is a better mark.

I think he is a good player. BUT I worry about injury prone players. Rarely ends well

 

[SOS Rules]

How would people feel if we end with

Pick 11
Pick 12
Ben Campo
Lucas Campo

Haynes
A very good mature player
Handy mature player
Handy mature role player

McCartin as rookie or late pick
Then trial a few for SSP over summer

Id feel good