Player Watch Fin Macrae

[76woodenspooners]

Not entirely a fair comment. Apart from a badly broken leg, Mitchell was largely injury free for the entirety of his career at Sydney and Hawthorn.

Collingwood signed him for three years hoping to get three years out of him, not one. Injury is just the risk you take when you sign a player on but there’s no evidence in Mitchell’s case that the injury risk was higher than usual.

The bet at the time? Absolutely.

The bet in hindsight (so far)? It was a great decision even though he hasn’t been able to contribute a lot post year 1.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

The bet at the time? Absolutely.

The bet in hindsight (so far)? It was a great decision even though he hasn’t been able to contribute a lot post year 1.

Stating the obvious as hindsight usually tends to do…

 

[76woodenspooners]

Stating the obvious as hindsight usually tends to do…

… and it would obviously be a questionable decision in hindsight if we hadn’t won the 2023 Premiership.

 

[DERKADERRR]

… and it would obviously be a questionable decision in hindsight if we hadn’t won the 2023 Premiership.

And if he hadn't performed fantastically on the day like he did.

 

[Kappa]

Mitchell only out for a 6 to 8 week period.
Finn, forget about it.
Edward more likely

Why does everyone act like missing 2 months of preseason with a foot injury isn’t a big deal?

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

… and it would obviously be a questionable decision in hindsight if we hadn’t won the 2023 Premiership.

He was outstanding in 2023, so no. Unless you’re rewriting history to also say he wasn’t outstanding.

 

[Horaceg]

Hot off the rumour mill, Macrae is retiring from AFL at years end. He has decided to take up scuba diving. He heard they named a piece of kit after him.

Does he have the tank for scuba, otherwise it’s just snorkeling

 

[Dtennent94]

Why does everyone act like missing 2 months of preseason with a foot injury isn’t a big deal?

And on the back of missing so much playing and training last year, too. Obviously people are downplaying it to console themselves. Can you blame them?

 

[Finnishpie]

D Wells should’ve. He, Elliott, Sinclair, and every single key back option we had missing cost us a flag.

That MCL he got was the worst luck in history. Worse than Fate's replacement of Lee Walker's knee ligaments with spaghetti.

 

[Finnishpie]

Why does everyone act like missing 2 months of preseason with a foot injury isn’t a big deal?

Kappa, well said! I'd like to know your answer though. I keep thinking.... "inexperience in life" But it can't be that.

 

[76woodenspooners]

He was outstanding in 2023, so no. Unless you’re rewriting history to also say he wasn’t outstanding.

Who remembers or cares who was outstanding in 2011 or 2018?

Sure, some might point to notables like Jayden Stephenson’s rising star, or Mason Cox’s prelim, or Dane Swan’s Brownlow.

But in a Premiership year even Billy Frampton was astute recruitment. And Tom Mitchell was “outstanding” in a way that he wouldn’t have been had Brisbane had kicked 1 more goal in the GF.

I guess there’s a reason they make trophies out of shiny stuff.

 

[Mollythedolly]

Kappa, well said! I'd like to know your answer though. I keep thinking.... "inexperience in life" But it can't be that.

Personally I just prefer to wait for some actual evidence before climbing straight into the worst case scenarios some have opted for. He was diagnosed, will be in a moon boot for 2 weeks before he gets an assessment. I’m happy to wait until we have further updates. I doubt though that that 2 weeks will substantially impact his readiness for the 2025 season. Looked to be in sensational nick before the injury and would be continuing to work even with the injury. I’m confident that even on a modified rehab program that if his coming assessment is positive, he’ll be cherry ripe for the season given his much touted professionalism. Many players battle through foot injuries, very few end up being Matty Egan career ending level impact. Mark Orval the last I can recall at Collingwood.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Who remembers or cares who was outstanding in 2011 or 2018?

Sure, some might point to notables like Jayden Stephenson’s rising star, or Mason Cox’s prelim, or Dane Swan’s Brownlow.

But in a Premiership year even Billy Frampton was astute recruitment. And Tom Mitchell was “outstanding” in a way that he wouldn’t have been had Brisbane had kicked 1 more goal in the GF.

I guess there’s a reason they make trophies out of shiny stuff.

Berry theoretically not giving away a 50 and Brisbane winning the flag would not have changed the fact that Mitchell had an outstanding year in 2023 and was a good recruitment choice given his pedigree, injury history, and positional need.

For example.

 

[Jelly Bean]

D Wells should’ve. He, Elliott, Sinclair, and every single key back option we had missing cost us a flag.

D Moore was fit and available - Bucks just didn't pick him because he hadn't played enough in the lead up. I think that decision cost us the flag.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

D Moore was fit and available - Bucks just didn't pick him because he hadn't played enough in the lead up. I think that decision cost us the flag.

From memory Ben Reid was fit and available too. Both had their cards marked as they were injury risks.

 

[76woodenspooners]

Berry theoretically not giving away a 50 and Brisbane winning the flag would not have changed the fact that Mitchell had an outstanding year in 2023 and was a good recruitment choice given his pedigree, injury history, and positional need.

For example.

It’s not a fact, it’s an opinion.

Opinions are subject to human biases, feelings, prejudices, judgements, experience, influence.

Facts are not.

Collingwood won the Premiership (fact), the beer tasted good (opinion), the cheers of the crowd was sweet sweet music (opinion), and Tommy Mitchell had a great year (opinion)

For the Brisbane supporter sitting next to me, Collingwood won the Premiership (still a fact), the beer tasted like cat’s piss (opinion), the crowd cheering was unbearable (opinion), and she didn’t give a rats clacker about Tom Mitchell (opinion)

Had we lost the Premiership, the world would have looked a very different place.

Have you ever visited a post game thread? Have you noticed that the opinions and people’s focus are a tad different for a one point win versus a one point loss? Despite there being only two points difference between the two?

I agree, Tom Mitchell had a great year. But that’s because we won the Premiership. Had we lost, I’d be giving Tom Mitchell’s 2023 year about as much consideration as I give to Peter Bradbury’s 1986 season.

 

[Anzacday]

I’m over all the crapping on about Tom Mitchell.
It’s a fact that it’s my opinion.

 

[Dtennent94]

I like to frontload my disappointment and get it out of the way.

For that reason, I’ve assumed Tom Mitchell has quietly already retired, will have a miraculously fast recovery, but plans on joining Carlton in the mid-season draft and go on to break Patrick Cripps’ brownlow medal votes in half a season. He’ll also win the Normie and take them to outright first on the flags leaderboard.

 

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Why does everyone act like missing months of preseason with a foot injury isn’t a big deal?

Not sure where you got two months from but if the injury comes good, an interrupted pre-season for an elite veteran isn’t that much of a big deal.

Mitchell is a pro who has built up a base that won’t disappear anytime soon.

Do you run Kappy?


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[Kirby]

Not sure where you got two months from but if the injury comes good, an interrupted pre-season for an elite veteran isn’t that much of a big deal.

Mitchell is a pro who has built up a base that won’t disappear anytime soon.

Do you run Kappy?


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[Pleasedontfail11]

I agree, Tom Mitchell had a great year. But that’s because we won the Premiership. Had we lost, I’d be giving Tom Mitchell’s 2023 year about as much consideration as I give to Peter Bradbury’s 1986 season.

Chris Mayne had a very good 2018.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I’m over all the crapping on about Tom Mitchell.
It’s a fact that it’s my opinion.

Is that a fact…