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It seems to me that on paper (which was the point of the thread) then roo has it over buckley. Voss has faded big time in the last two years although the simon black stats do make him look stronger than the two captains. What is the best way to sort it out as these two are pretty close. I...

would love to see this table for roo. any crows fans want to oblige.

Seriously anyone want a Cloke. Three big blokes going cheap. Mid-year draft is what we need. The doggies need big blokes and we neeed more space in the change rooms for Tarrants ego. Port you can also have another Lonie if you want. How about a Tarrant he has a younger brother too. Will...

My opnion is that Buckley has the best case so far. If you want to put a lions player forward then you go to the trouble of finding the stats. this forum was meant for discussion. Not just simply rebuking my claim.

Read my posts I think that rucciuto has just as much claim to the throne

Not in the last six years they haven't

No but whats the most original thought you have had today? Shouldn't you be watching your team cop a hundred point thrashing?

No i don't but some one has to touch the ball for a team to win. Nowhere have I discounted that the Lions teams of 2000-2004 efforts to play in four grand finals. But this discussion would be quite boring if you took premierships into account the Lions players would have it hands down over every...

Had you put the whole conspiracy togeather before i pointed it out to you? POrt still want to be the magpies. They are looking closely at Bradyn Shaw. That would give them three members of the same family that are playing at the Pies. Their coach is a former Pies capitan. They are going to...

Voss and Hird have not won a brownlow nor a a normsmith. Voss has been an All-Australian more time than Buckley in the last 6 years. But he has not won as many individual honours. Neither has Hird. Roo comes close, but he has not been the dominant force that buckley has been. Have a look at...

No one has bothered to post them. I conced that Roo has had a very good decade thus far a may be able to add a few trophies to the cbinet by the end of the year.

This is how I see it. Carey dominated more seasons than anyone else in the 90's. He was the backbone of his team. If he fired the team won. He is considered to be the most skillfull player to have played during that ten year period. What I am saying is, is that we are six years into the...

Did you want Lonie back? The player who has won the least amount of contested ball of all players in the League> Check the stats!

I just noticed that POrt and Collingwood both have a Wakelin and a Lonie. Was wondering if they wanted a few Clokes......? Threee Clokes going Cheap. Are the doggie supporters interested in some tall timber?

By this decade I mean 2000 to now so Voss may have been good Buckley has it over him

Carey ruled the 90's. Judd may yet win another four brownlow medals this decade. But for mine so far the player of the decade is Nathan Buckley. If you don't take premierships into account as they are a team achievement and base your stats purely on individual honours then Buckley is a clear...

Once again it is impossible to have a discussion on bigfooty without trolls cutting in. If you don't like the collingwood board don't come here

This may be a bit of chest beating but I think there is a good case to be made for Buckley being called the greatest player so far this decade. Everyone would agree that the ninties belonged to Carey. I will need the help of other supporters to fill out some of the details. But if you look at...

Luke Power is the next Nathan Buckley down at Magpie land.

Has anyone ever lived up to the moniker of "he's the next!" I am so sic k of hearing that. Eg. Allan Didak as the next Daicos. For starters he is not even macedonian. I am sure there are players at all clubs that are tagged with the "he's the next!" line. Anyone ever lived up to it.

So there's one who doesn't cut it. That's not the point have a look at the ladder before you comment further.

When you look at what Kosi and Riewoldt have done being taken in the draft at 1 and 2 and Didak at 3 i fail to see him living up to their superstar calibre. Feel free to prove me wrong i think dids is a mercurial small forward and potentially a handy mid fielder but beyond that does he have what...

If you have a look at the ladder the majority of teams on top of the ladder have coaches who have been at the top level for less than five years. Down the bottom you have three multi premiership coaches who are past their prime. Collingwood, Carlton and maybe less significantly essendon need to...

Have a look at the teams who are on top of the ladder. Most of their coaches are young and are more in touch with where the game is going. Milkshake keeps recruiting fat arse wombats that would have struggled to get a game in the 80's when it was played at a slower pace.

Are you kiddin me ? You must have less than one eye to come up with such dribble. Where does this idea come from that you can never question the club you support. That' bollocks if we never questioned our politicians then we would end up with some war mongering right wing facist as prime...

Chris Tarrant didn't even make an effort on Friday night and when he did get it in the forward line the first thing he wanted to do was give it off. No confidence left in front of goal send him back to byron bay and he can bloody stay there.

When will they cancel the footy show

does anyone know how many people actually have foxtel nad if it is a viable option for nine to team up with them. For example i spent some time living in frnace and they had a cable channel that you could pick up with your normal antenna. Most of the time the picture was scrambled but by law...

i don't care as lo0ng as ten have nothing to do with hte broadcasting of football. They have the worst cameramen in the world.

The 7 network are so convinced that they are going to get the next AFL rights that they have began to look at getting one of the cyclpes cameras that were trialled by channel 9 last year in the NRL and AFL. Seven wants to have one installed at the Telstra Dome to improve its broadcast angles and...