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I figure this is the best place to post this as it is sort of reflective/ general discussion about he forum etc. I am hanging up the boots, officially.. I am sure I won't be missed, but I wanted to tip my cap. Generally this forum has brought me a lot of joy and great discussion, thanks to...

At first thought I thought it looked like we had been ripped off. But upon letting the blood pressure decrease, I think it is OK. I think when you finish second finish last, you are less likely to see 'winable games'. I think the start is very hard and I can't see a golden patch anywhere? for...

It was strange that I copped a spray from the MM when I did, as this last paragraph.. Bar making specific mention of injuries (which goes with out saying) Is exactly what that I was trying to advocate. Lol

Love your passion MacMum . My post was largely supportive of leppa and the 'made mistakes and willing to listen' comment was largely in relation to player relations and the review he requested - as that's what the thread is about - most seem to agree it hasn't been perfect this year. I have...

I personally am 100% behind Leppa this year, upon.. even more reflection.. I really want him to do well. He needs results IMO, but I am backing him to turn this around. He has made his mistakes and done lots of good, but he appears prepared to listen, so fingers crossed the last 12 months will...

lol - BB doesen't need you to come rushing to his defence, he is a strong poster with even stronger conviction - clearly, as per the END of the conversation 2 pages ago, this was over, not sure why you need to come in with your 2c.

Oh yeah - after being blatantly trolled for having an opinion I really let loose on him, no mercy. super attacking. lol

haha always such a witty conversation where you are involved. Ill take that as you have no rebuttal to my post then? so you are out kind of admitting your'e wrong and a bit out of touch then?. I have worked in several workplaces and have yet to have my boss assault me, sounds like it's happening...

Narr mate, it is you who looks a little bit out of touch here unfortunately? where do you work? If you told a boss on a site to 'Get f***ed' out of frustration because he kept putting you on the shovel for 3 months straight? You'd cop a stern warning and mouthful from a superior and maybe a...

If you told a boss in a traditional workplace to get F*****, out of frustration, you would get a written warning. If a boss physically assaulted an employee in anyway, are visa versa, there would be grounds for instant dismissal and potential legal action - not sure what exactly your'e getting...

Yeah I saw someone say he was 'sending a message' by getting rid of ZOB. Lol - if getting rid of ZOB had ANYTHING to do with the altercation, we are going to hell in a hand basket. I would Strongly suggest, for team morale and Leppas reputation it would have absolutely nothing to do with...

The one thing that I will never accept is the notion the the adult leader of young men should be involved in any form of physical altercation with them to get their point across. Having to resort to physical measures in the team environment completely undermines your stature as a mature leader...

I think, whilst this thread exposes and touches on a rumour that a lot of us suspect to be true - the answer lies in our on field performance in 2016, not in facilities, or excuses, or list building or game plans.. his time is now. He gets another crack and we should get behind him, he is a...

I was talking about what I perceived to be a 'clear' disengagement between players and coach from about round 4 this year. You rarely if ever here of players talking about Leppa in a positive light, and the effort during games and visible lack of morale and passion just said to me things clearly...

But there is no Key defenders anywhere in the universe.

Technically no, but his compensation and the position in which it lies was a key element deciding how we approached the trade period and the pieces we had to use in other trades, I think it needs to be included. Just as had we taking Suckling and dodged the eventual bullet that was the low compo...

Yeah I rekon that's also why we went cold on casbolt, not that it would have meant they take Shaq, just may have increased the chances.

Yeah of coarse, I'll be treating it as a winnable game once the season is approaching - just strictly from a fixture announcement point if view, it's the worst possible start to the season bar hawks at tassie I suppose. If we win it will set the season off incredibly, no doubt, but on the flip...

I think it's a terribly unlucky way to start the season given our position, personally.

Yeah true, I'd prefer another bottom 8! Team, coming out round one and getting blown off the park after a long preseason does not go well for young teams.

AFL just announced round 1 fixture - Westcoast... Domain... Sunday arvo. FFS that should really get the ball rolling on am awesome season, the worst possible round 1 fixture available for any team. That's a joke.

Just to clarify my position. As I said in the Aish thread I was 100% in support of the deal, I was 100% in favor of the Walker deal and used the Mcguane example myself several times and I am generally happy.

Yeah fair summation. That's the answer I am looking for from people. I believe with cap space on hand we could have gone pretty hard at a number of out of favour KPP's in or out of contract from various clubs (B grade C grade calibre), but it is hard to speculate over who they might have been...

excellent, balanced, summation of the trade period for us, most of it rings pretty true for me. Do you think we could have gone harder for, spent more focus on the lack of Mature talls in the 23-25 age bracket? or did you back another year of development for Darcy, Clarke, Andrews etc - to hold...

19 YO academy player, we could narrow it down pretty quickly I would suggest.

I mentioned some criteria that was set by the club it's self? we chased Charlie Dixon, we said we wanted more A- grade talent? All I threw up was an example of how if you take your rose coloured glasses off for just one second, we potentially could have gotten more out of the trade period - it's...

Yeah as I said, I was responding to a post that only set 3 elements of criteria that we ticked off on, but ignored some other criteria I think we could have met. I am happy with the trade period, but I think it's healthy we be subjective whilst directing what would have been an 'outstanding'...

The criteria I raised, are the criteria that our team required to meet in order to have an 'outstanding' trade period IMO. The reasons they arn't or wern't met, are fine and reasonable, but what's the point of reviewing the trade period if you are going to conveniently ignore some of the key...

Your'e missing the point of my post mate. I am not saying that I DEMAND these criteria be met, I am generally happy with the results of the trade period. I was saying, that I felt this post (and some others) only raised the questions that we got a good result in, whilst ignoring several others...

Yeah I just think 1 maybe 2 Key defenders, of any skill level was vital, in addition to more mids. But as I said, I think this will become a common theme early next year "WHY DIDN'T WE GO FLAT STICK FOR SOME SIZE AGAIN!?" when our kids at either end are being put to the slaughter .. also with...