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Shit, that was nearly 30 years ago now :( Me and my 5" gauge steamer.

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That was at Korumburra around 2005, a full day driving experience. Did shunting and drove the goods train from Korumburra to Leongatha and back.

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And this was me in 1979, driving a two-week-old DF around the loop on an excursion. :thumbsu:

Back then I was a volunteer at the Glenbrook Vintage Railway in Auckland, and spent most weekends in the workshop or on passenger duties and occasionally firing one of the two steam locos.
Happy days Postie... where did you run your 5guage?
Looks much like the one that used to run in Gosford.

One of my ex's (pre Turbo) had many model steam locos on his property.
They were loads of fun to create events around and such good time wasters on the weekends
 
That was at the Hutt Valley model engineering club in Wellington, NZ.

I brought it over with me in 2001 but ran into problems getting the boiler certificate recognised here and eventually gave up and sold it to a guy in Kentucky, of all places. They use 4-3/4" gauge in his part of the world but he was happy putting down a 5" gauge line for it.
 

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Has been a great pre-season training week with the whole team back and working hard as we make our launch on our 3rd premiership cup in only 6 seasons.

Time to relax now in the Maximus Turbous Bath House and enjoy all the privilege's that come with being Old Boy's.


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DemurePrincess I've been asked by the caretaker to pass on a message about respecting our rules and having a shower before bathing, and could you please ensure you pay particular attention to your feet. I said that you were an ex-Old Boy and he was out of line, but he insisted. :(


Poor Gizmo
 
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DemurePrincess I've been asked by the caretaker to pass on a message about respecting our rules and having a shower before bathing, and could you please ensure you pay particular attention to your feet. I said that you were an ex-Old Boy and he was out of line, but he insisted. :(


Poor Gizmo

Umm! Thank **** I am an ex Old Boy!

Touch your own god damn feet you filthy animal 🤢
 
You need to stop poking me in the ear though.
With his feet… what is wrong with you?

Feet are dirty! Go have a bloody wash
 
LOL.

Where is Kenney anyone know?
Yep. I spoke to him the other day and he’s about to get another ‘**** you’ phone call in a second… any messages??? 😂
 

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Yeah, hope to see him posting soon
I’ve told him this already… he’s got stuff going on and his head is hurting him already this year. But he’ll be back. Stress less.
 
That was at the Hutt Valley model engineering club in Wellington, NZ.

I brought it over with me in 2001 but ran into problems getting the boiler certificate recognised here and eventually gave up and sold it to a guy in Kentucky, of all places. They use 4-3/4" gauge in his part of the world but he was happy putting down a 5" gauge line for it.

What fuel do you use to fire those miniature boilers, OTP? Diesel oil?
 
What fuel do you use to fire those miniature boilers, OTP? Diesel oil?
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Coal, dear boy. Unfortunately hard to get the right stuff. Coals vary in quality and combustion properties, and you need specific types to run properly. "Welsh steam coal" is the holy grail but even that is dramatically lower quality these days. Believe it or not, you used to be able to buy coal from a specific pit or mine, and you still can if you want a containerload and that mine hasn't been closed.

Because of this, alternative fuels have been used such as "char" in Australia where powdered low-quality coal bricks have been baked to drive off the volatile gases, leaving a high carbon residue called char. This burns clean and hot (good) but generates a shit ton of sparks (bad). Some guys in the US use petroleum coke which behaves much the same.

The larger the fire, the less important (within reason) coal quality is. With the small fireboxes in model locomotives, it makes a huge difference. So the locomotive is made and tuned to work with a certain grade of coal. The round door in the middle of the cab above is the firehole, you feed the coal in with a small narrow shovel.

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The coal sits on a grate made of steel bars, and as it burns air comes up through the gaps in the bars. The hot gases then pass through tubes in the boiler, transferring heat to the water which boils and makes steam, and then into the smokebox and out the chimney.

But its not going to do it by itself. You need a draft or air current to pull the gases to the front. No draft = the fire just smoulders and dies. So we use a "blower" which is a jet of steam that goes up the chimney and pulls air through with it. When the engine is moving, the steam in the cylinders is exhausted through a "blast pipe" up through the smokebox and out the chimney, and that creates a massive draft. Hence you only ever need the blower when the loco is stationary or if the throttle is closed and it is coasting.

The harder the engine works, the more steam it uses, the more the exhaust pulls, the hotter the fire burns, the more steam it makes. It's a brilliantly simple system.

Except its very dependent on everything being set up right to suit the coal being burned.

The grate bar gap width is important - too small, not enough air gets through = incomplete combustion and lots of smoke. Too big, too much air, the coal burns too quickly, creates holes in the fire, cold air gets through = no steam. Too small, the gaps block up with ash from the coal and no air gets through. Too large, chunks of unburnt coal fall through.

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The setup in the smokebox is critical. The blast pipe must be exactly centred in the chimney and must be big enough to allow all the exhaust steam to escape without causing back pressure, but small enough to give a strong blast. (Think of blowing through a hose vs a straw.) The height of the blast pipe nozzle in relation to the inside of the chimney also determines how much vacuum it will create (and therefore the amount of gases it will suck through the tubes).

And the amount of gases being sucked through determines the rate of coal combustion. Too much suck and the coal burns too hot and creates "clinker" where the impurities in the coal form a glass-like slag (which kills the fire). Not enough suck means not enough air which means smoke which deposits unburned particles of fuel on the tubes which lowers heat transfer. And some coals generate loads of smoke and tar which **** things up no matter what you try.

And the smokebox must be perfectly sealed - any tiny air leak kills the vacuum and it won't steam.

There is a shit ton of science related to steam engine firebox and front end design, you're juggling so many variables. That's why its such a pain when you can't get a consistent supply of the coal that works with your particular engine. In the US hobby, oil firing and propane are more popular than coal for this reason, and unfortunately the rest of the world has to follow due to the coal supply situation.

Anyway, that's my free ted talk for this morning, more info than you ever wanted but it's saved me from an hour of writing safety documentation :)
 
Send him a camel ai for me. He is missed.
tell him I was thinking of him and then about Vices...

and this came to mind.


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and then this

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Missing him and hope he's doing well
 
No. Just greasy.
Hate that shit! He’s got no idea about spacial awareness! I’m sorry that happened!

We have space at the Bombers if it gets out of control for you xx
 

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