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desie said:
Simple fact is the concept was copied from Australian Football, just like most other policies that the NRL put into place over the years.

Hmm AFL uses the old NRL finals format

AFL has copied the NRL judiciary

Nothing wrong with people using things in other codes that may work or are an improvement/
 

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littleduck said:
the pathetic ol my games better than your inferior game argument...
That's because it is. After living in Sydney for 3 years at one stage, I know which city's insular. We don't have to be insular, crowds show that. Did the NRL get 100,000 to their games last weekend? Don't think they did. You get you're little rivalry over the next few weeks, and between times and afterwards it'll go back to the same old disinterest and poor turnout. And you want to talk global media you want to see how many countries view the AFL GF live.
 
littleduck said:
Failed? It works succesfully...
i forget the year, but we smashed carlton by 100 or so points up here at the gabba. following week, carlton got a home game and won, brisbane had to travel two weeks later and lost.

successfully my ****************.

edit: actually looking back at the 99 year, brisbane did bloody well. 144%! shame we couldnt beat the roos no matter what back then.
 
Jimthegreat said:
That's because it is. After living in Sydney for 3 years at one stage, I know which city's insular.

Yeah, you keep telling us you lived in Sydney.... guess that makes you an expert...

Let me guess the three years you lived here??...umm 1995 - 97 when League was at its depths because of the Super League fiasco....

Time to move on, like the rest of the people still living in Sydney have...
 
littleduck said:
Failed? It works succesfully...
You're kidding. It a bloody shocking system, that's why we got rid of it. If 1 & 2 win the first week, 3,4,5 & 6 are just wasting their time as they play the same final in week 2, win or lose. Average to ordinary sides get away with murder if they're lucky enough to get a run on in weeks 2 & 3....eg Adelaide '97, Carlton '99 (although I didn't complain pinching a GF berth from the all conquering bombers by a point! Be happy to win any game by a point now!).
 
BuffaloRules said:
Yeah, you keep telling us you lived in Sydney.... guess that makes you an expert...

Let me guess the three years you lived here??...umm 1995 - 97 when League was at its depths because of the Super League fiasco....

Time to move on, like the rest of the people still living in Sydney have...
Certainly gave me a very good insight, more than enough for an imformed opinion. And still your crowds are poor. SL wasn't played when I was there. Wherever you go no-one spoke about, or discussed the game, whether at work, friends or otherwise. Just no passion. Reflected in the crowds. Unlike here. Coming form Victoria I was really surprised. Outside of 2 states no-one is interested. Come back with your argument when RL club games can geta crowd.
 
Jimthegreat said:
Certainly gave me a very good insight, more than enough for an imformed opinion. And still your crowds are poor. SL wasn't played when I was there. Wherever you go no-one spoke about, or discussed the game, whether at work, friends or otherwise. Just no passion. Reflected in the crowds. Unlike here. Coming form Victoria I was really surprised. Outside of 2 states no-one is interested. Come back with your argument when RL club games can geta crowd.

So what years were you there??

If no one discussed League at your work, then I can only assume that you are a sole trader, or worked in a Sheltered workshop for deaf mutes.
 
BuffaloRules said:
So what years were you there??

If no one discussed League at your work, then I can only assume that you are a sole trader, or worked in a Sheltered workshop for deaf mutes.
I know exactly how passionate the game was at the workplace. Don't try to tell me other wise. If you rationalise enough, and tell yourself enough times how popular your game is I'm sure one day you'll convince yourself. Pity no-one watches. I was back in Victoria when SL was on. Back to decent football.
 
Jimthegreat said:
I know exactly how passionate the game was at the workplace. Don't try to tell me other wise. If you rationalise enough, and tell yourself enough times how popular your game is I'm sure one day you'll convince yourself. Pity no-one watches. I was back in Victoria when SL was on. Back to decent football.

So what years were you in Sydney?

What did the people talk about? The Swans?
 

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Jimthegreat said:
That's because it is. After living in Sydney for 3 years at one stage, I know which city's insular.
We were talking in terms of sporting interests, and therefore its obvious to blind freddy that Sydney is more worldly than Melbourne due to competitive international competition for its major codes, whereas Melbourne thrives on its suburban rivalries and more recently, inter-city rivalries (but I dare say suburban rivalries are still the flavour of the day).

We don't have to be insular, crowds show that.
How can you link being insular with crowds? Every AFL discussion gets linked to crowds even though its generally irrlevant..

Did the NRL get 100,000 to their games last weekend? Don't think they did.
It wasnt a full round..

You get you're little rivalry over the next few weeks, and between times and afterwards it'll go back to the same old disinterest and poor turnout.
Tv audiences trending upwards at record highs combined with record attendances for the major football code across more than half the country suggests arguments of "disinterest" and "poor turnout" are a Mexican myth. FYI the Super League war is over and there is nothing declining in Rugby League in the past half dozen years.

And you want to talk global media you want to see how many countries view the AFL GF live.
Probably the same as the SOO...
 
Very interesting to see some of the responses by those who bag the NRL and those who enjoy it, I follow both codes with a passion, and am richer for it.

Its a common trait to bag something you don't understand, as it is very apparent in this thread.

But, AFL, for its woderful traits, has one major flaw. Its based on mistakes (dropping marks, rewards for missing goals, drpooing the ball, etc...
 
littleduck said:
We were talking in terms of sporting interests, and therefore its obvious to blind freddy that Sydney is more worldly than Melbourne due to competitive international competition for its major codes, whereas Melbourne thrives on its suburban rivalries and more recently, inter-city rivalries (but I dare say suburban rivalries are still the flavour of the day).

How can you link being insular with crowds? Every AFL discussion gets linked to crowds even though its generally irrlevant..

It wasnt a full round..

Tv audiences trending upwards at record highs combined with record attendances for the major football code across more than half the country suggests arguments of "disinterest" and "poor turnout" are a Mexican myth. FYI the Super League war is over and there is nothing declining in Rugby League in the past half dozen years.

Probably the same as the SOO...
Understand what you meant by insular. Took the insular statement in the wrong context.

Anyway, it's alot to do with crowds. That's the defining measure of how popular a game is. There were still RL games that couldn't draw 10,000 people on the weekend. Can't be that much true passionate interest. That's awful no matter what spin you put on it. Don't care if they're record attendances or not. If those crappy crowds are actually records then it more than illustrates my point. And yes the major footy code around the country is enjoying great crowds because as you can see AFL is thriving.
 
Go the Blues!!!

Is it live to melbourne?

And regarding who you qualify for if you're from the western states, it's who ever you played your first game for as a registered player, and if you've begun in the western states, it's which ever state you first played for! (Assuming you moved to NSW or QLD). Think that's right!
 
mcgarnacle said:
disregard the NRL. this series is beyond the NRL competition.

its representative rugby league...the state of your origin...the jumper...the passion.

you have an association to your state from birth. you don't begin supporting them because of the colour of their uniforms, or because you like a couple of their players, or jump on their bandwagon because they won a premiership. when queensland's big artie beetson got stuck into parramatta clubmate & nsw centre mick cronin in rugby league's inaugural SOO match, it was a message that the game was to bring honour to your state and not even a mate from the other side of the border would stand in the way.

rugby league's SOO is the pinnacle of representative football in this country.
What a load of **** mate .The Wallabies and Socceroos are far more representative of Australia that a few boofheads from NSW and QLD playing a parochial State game = get your hand off it!
Just your usual Sydney bias thinking their S*** dosent stink.LOL
 
We were talking in terms of sporting interests, and therefore its obvious to blind freddy that Sydney is more worldly than Melbourne due to competitive international competition for its major codes, whereas Melbourne thrives on its suburban rivalries and more recently, inter-city rivalries (but I dare say suburban rivalries are still the flavour of the day

What Rubbish little d**k how many INTERNATIONAL SPORTING EVENTS does Sydney hold EVERY year????
The RL International series is a sporting JOKE as there is only ONE team thats any good - Australia aka NSW and QLD, so much for representing the WHOLE country.
 
BonScott1 said:
Go the Blues!!!

Is it live to melbourne?

And regarding who you qualify for if you're from the western states, it's who ever you played your first game for as a registered player, and if you've begun in the western states, it's which ever state you first played for! (Assuming you moved to NSW or QLD). Think that's right!

No thank God the drivel is not live in Melbourne CH9 has more sense than waste ratings on the rubbish.
 
finders said:
What a load of **** mate .The Wallabies and Socceroos are far more representative of Australia that a few boofheads from NSW and QLD playing a parochial State game = get your hand off it!
Just your usual Sydney bias thinking their S*** dosent stink.LOL

Ok, I don't believe I'm really saying this in defence of RL let alone SOO, but....

finders, you need to actually get a clue before you post crap like that. Just to point you in the RIGHT direction......I'd suggest you research or at the very least look for the correlation between SOO representative football and the RL international test sides, then you can branch out to one side and look at the RL to RU and on to Wallabies player numbers and then once you've got those you can take a look at the number of SOO players that have ended up in the Wallabies side. You'll be surprised. Your comment is indicative of living in an insular sporting world. Broaden your horizons son and then criticise if you want, but tunnel vision gives no credibility.
 
BuffaloRules said:
So what years were you there??

If no one discussed League at your work, then I can only assume that you are a sole trader, or worked in a Sheltered workshop for deaf mutes.

I'll add my two cents worth to this ridiculous argument also.

I live in Canberra and work in the PS, I have noticed a distinct swing towards the AFL in social discussion at work.

This wasn't the case in the past decade and half, where it was very pro-RL.

Personally I think RL has died a little in the ACT, the Raiders dont get the same huge crowds anymore (Brumbies have definately stole some of the supporter base).

Mind you, local Aussie Rules comp sux big-time and its only the AFL that has gathered strength in recent years.
 

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