List Mgmt. 2013 DRAFT

[smashbox gill]

anyone know what freeman is like by foot?

accurate disposal by foot. Rated just below elite apparently

 

[No1Suspect]

I love the idea of crouch but i'm starting to be concerned that he was a star player in a ordinary team. the rebels didn't set the world on fire this year and he is definitely the pick out of the team. I'm just wondering whether his 40 possession games came from the mentality that his teammates fed him the ball a lot because he was the only one in the team who could use it.

although he did gather 29 possessions and 1 goal for vic country, when playing vfl picked up 23 disposals.
So i'm probably talking crap.

Picking a player that is dominating games with odds against him in a team that isnt setting the world on fire is more of a reason to pick him than not.
He gets ALL the ball, isnt a receiver so his kicking and pace may not be elite but his extraction and aggression in the contented side of the game is unmatched imo. He is exactly the type of player we need, we got thomas to add to the run and carry side of things, Judd is almost done so to put this years best extractor along side arguably the best contested ball winner in the past decade well.. you do the math.
i see matt as turning into a brad sewell mold but with better hands.

Freeman/Sheed/Dumont are the next players id look at, Freeman explosive good inside game but his hands arent great and blazes away quite often... Sheed is a calm under pressure type very well rounded game, and i had the pleasure of seeing Aish and Dumont on the weekend in Norwoods win, very impressed with Trents game has matured quite a bit from last year upside seems very high....

Either way id be happy with any of these 4 players but i believe Crouch serves our greatest need more so than the other 3.

FBI suggested trading upwards possibly to gws pick 9 with our 13 plus player.... that idea i like because i can see collingwood taking 2 mids and nabbing 2 we want.

 

[Bradschi]

Picking a player that is dominating games with odds against him in a team that isnt setting the world on fire is more of a reason to pick him than not.
He gets ALL the ball, isnt a receiver so his kicking and pace may not be elite but his extraction and aggression in the contented side of the game is unmatched imo. He is exactly the type of player we need, we got thomas to add to the run and carry side of things, Judd is almost done so to put this years best extractor along side arguably the best contested ball winner in the past decade well.. you do the math.
i see matt as turning into a brad sewell mold but with better hands.

Freeman/Sheed/Dumont are the next players id look at, Freeman explosive good inside game but his hands arent great and blazes away quite often... Sheed is a calm under pressure type very well rounded game, and i had the pleasure of seeing Aish and Dumont on the weekend in Norwoods win, very impressed with Trents game has matured quite a bit from last year upside seems very high....

Either way id be happy with any of these 4 players but i believe Crouch serves our greatest need more so than the other 3.

FBI suggested trading upwards possibly to gws pick 9 with our 13 plus player.... that idea i like because i can see collingwood taking 2 mids and nabbing 2 we want.

chances are collingwood will trade one of its first round pick to GWS for taylor adams.
However, with pick 9 and 11 GWS might take a midfielder and a high risk/high reward type of player and with collingwood taking another one, well that doesn't leave us in a great spot.
FWIW, Crouch was put at pick 18 in the phantom draft they did on TAC Cup future stars, so he might very well be there when it's our turn to pick.

 

[No1Suspect]

chances are collingwood will trade one of its first round pick to GWS for taylor adams.
However, with pick 9 and 11 GWS might take a midfielder and a high risk/high reward type of player and with collingwood taking another one, well that doesn't leave us in a great spot.
FWIW, Crouch was put at pick 18 in the phantom draft they did on TAC Cup future stars, so he might very well be there when it's our turn to pick.

Thats true, but as i stated i wouldnt be displeased with either one of those boys, as for TAC future stars i wouldnt let those people run a lemonade stand let alone have a say in recruitment at an afl club...

I just wanna finish higher that floggingwood then somehow trade to get a higher pick than them as well as take daisy to really rub it in their nose although Adams is a good get, pricks!

Crouch is much better than #18....

 

[Bronze]

anyone know what freeman is like by foot?

Excellent kick. He will be taken top 10.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

We're a lock to take an inside mid this draft at #13.

One of Crouch/Dunstan/Sheed etc

 

[Omega Blue]

We're a lock to take an inside mid this draft at #13.

One of Crouch/Dunstan/Sheed etc

and of those three which would you prefer?

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

and of those three which would you prefer?

Hard to say - as a pure insider, probably Crouch.

But I'd be happy wither either.

 

[Omega Blue]

Hard to say - as a pure insider, probably Crouch.

But I'd be happy wither either.

does his potential lack of pace bother you? (it doesn't bother me) just thinking towards the future and Crouch and Graham would be our engine room and they aren't lightning fast. I agree with taking an inside player this year (and I hope its crouch) but I think we would have to go a fast outside type player next year, just to maintain list balance.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

does his potential lack of pace bother you? (it doesn't bother me) just thinking towards the future and Crouch and Graham would be our engine room and they aren't lightning fast. I agree with taking an inside player this year (and I hope its crouch) but I think we would have to go a fast outside type player next year, just to maintain list balance.

It doesn't bother me - because I look at player like Luke Parker and notice how he can still be dangerous around the ground.

What Crouch lacks in pace, he makes up for game smarts and aggression - love the fact that he's like a bull around the contest.

Agree that we will have to address pace next time around, unless the RM is looking at somebody like Freeman etc.

 

[Silvagnis]

Purple monkey dishwasher.

 

[No1Suspect]

It doesn't bother me - because I look at player like Luke Parker and notice how he can still be dangerous around the ground.

What Crouch lacks in pace, he makes up for game smarts and aggression - love the fact that he's like a bull around the contest.

Agree that we will have to address pace next time around, unless the RM is looking at somebody like Freeman etc.

I would say we are a slow side though? Hawthorns engine isn't super Lewis Mitchell Hodge Sewell... Our outside runners are pretty pacey... Yarran Lucas Thomas Garlett when up on the wing, I agree an extra runner wouldn't hurt but I think first hands on the pill would make a big difference..

 

[No1Suspect]

I still can't help be drawn to Acres for some reason, despite being injured I feel he will come on like Fyfe.... Is 13 a reach??

 

[BlueTongue]

Chapman is a rich man's Duigan. Would prefer we have one of the two or none.

That's either a big compliment to Duigan or a serious slander on Chappy. Sure his hammies aren't what they used to be but he was an absolute champion when he was fit! I dare say he could still be a match winner if managed in small bursts.

 

[smashbox gill]

I still can't help be drawn to Acres for some reason, despite being injured I feel he will come on like Fyfe.... Is 13 a reach??

Id say theres every possibility he will be there abouts.

My preference:
1) Freeman
2) Bontempelli
3) Acres
4) Sheed
5) Crouch

 

[No1Suspect]

Id say theres every possibility he will be there abouts.

My preference:
1) Freeman
2) Bontempelli
3) Acres
4) Sheed
5) Crouch

I used to be keen on bontempelli but after hearing he is now at 194? Could have read wrong I just dunno what to do with him... To much of a project player for mine we need someone who knows their spot and plays it straight away

 

[zeeCFC]

That's either a big compliment to Duigan or a serious slander on Chappy. Sure his hammies aren't what they used to be but he was an absolute champion when he was fit! I dare say he could still be a match winner if managed in small bursts.

I'm saying Chap is a champion and Duigan is serviceable

 

[Garth Vader]

Get Freeman (esp.) or Crouch, CFC, and things will be alright

 

[Silvagnis]

#grainofsalt

Round 1
1. GWS - Boyd
2. Melbourne Aish
3. St Kilda Kelly
4. Western Bulldogs Scharenberg
5. Gold Coast Billings
6. West Coast Freeman/Salem - love Victorian mids like Shuey, Gaff and Selwood
7. Brisbane Lennon
8. North Melbourne McDonald
9. GWS Salem
10. Collingwood Bontempelli
11. Collingwood Taylor - Hine loves short people
12. Richmond KK/Sheed/Acres?
13. Carlton Sheed/Acres/Dumont?

 

[HBF]

Would be happy to pick up Sheed at 13.
Keep our run of Western Australians going.

 

[Silvagnis]

Acres's WA connection and his reported versatility sort of fits for Carlton.

Plus the shoulder reconstruction.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-06/acres-a-draft-mystery

Though pav's profile makes him sound like a top two pick.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/wa-draft-standing.1036736/#post-30529203

1. Blake Acres

Height : 190cm Weight : 84kg

Blake Acres managed 9 matches for West Perth this season, averaging 25 possessions, and a little over a goal a game. What's all the fuss about? It's the quality of the touches. I'd be struggling to recall more than 10 poor disposal from the tally of 222 at colts level.

Acres is clean, crisp and any other adjective you want to use to describe an elite ball user and here's the big one, an elite decision maker, there are no hail marys, no long bombs, no kicking for touch. Acres hates to waste the ball, think of a Pendlebury or a Mundy, these players wait that extra half second to identify a more advantageous target and have the required skill, by both hand and foot to hit these targets 9 times out of 10. It opens up the play, it's an intangible that will never show up on any stat metric, the ability to weight a foot bass, or a handball so a teammate doesn't have to break stride is gold, absolute gold.

Acres also jumps to the top of the pile on the back of his ability to play just about anywhere and impact the contest. Acres was pulling in 20+ possessions each week, despite averaging less than 70% game time. Toward the end of his 9 matches Acres pushed forward and provided West Perth with a marking target through half forward, I cannot describe how poor this side was in 2013, his last 4 games netted 9 goals. Acres also played a sweeping role across half back and simply read the play better than any who went to him to quell his influence.

The fact that he has grown a further 2 cms since testing at Arena earlier this year only heightens his standing, he is now a genuine tall midfielder, the type that clubs are happy to push forward rather than rolling off the bench, this allows the other less flexible players to rest on the bench, an important factor to consider when thinking of the upcoming cap. His aerial capabilities make him a genuine threat forward of the play, whilst definitely not in the Fyfe bracker, he is more than capable of dragging in genuine contested marks and his set shot is smooth, with an uncomplicated kicking action to match.

Now we turn to his frame, his scope for growth and the stock he has come from. There are no holes. Both parents were both very athletic, home life has been stable and he has had a sibling of a similar age to build a competitive edge. If any had noticed his brother Dan Acres and his ferocity at the man, it's fair to say Blake knows how to compete, how to take a tackle and how to shake a tag. This is crucial for me, it develops and competitive drive which holds players in great stead down the track. Look at the Selwood brothers, now look at Jack Watts, it can't be taught, the willingness and want to compete, regardless of whether there is impact.

Acres for me, is the complete package from WA, he's won the gene lottery, he has had a brother to torment and compete against, honing his skills from an early age on the field and at home, his ball winning ability is unquestionable. Decision making is elite, a capable overhead mark with an instinct for goal.

He has scope to grow into his size, is fit as a fiddle and comes from a very stable environment, the only downside to Acres is an inability to grow facial hair, he really needs to get rid of the mo.

 

[BlueBelle]

Would be happy to pick up Sheed at 13.
Keep our run of Western Australians going.

Is he their under 18s Captain?

 

[Bradschi]

Is he their under 18s Captain?

Yes indeed. Leads from the front, perfect example is his last carnival game against vic country, the same game he broke his collarbone, he collected 29 touches, 6 clearances and kicked 4 goals as well.

 

[BlueBelle]

Yes indeed. Leads from the front, perfect example is his last carnival game against vic country, the same game he broke his collarbone, he collected 29 touches, 6 clearances and kicked 4 goals as well.

I saw him in an interview and he was very impressive. Where is he expected to go at?

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

I have a mate involved at SANFL level who reckons Aish is most over rated player, says there is strong thought that he is very soft and doesn't like the hard ball, perhaps he will fit in at Melbourne.