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Wasn't he one of our leading tacklers? I also believe we've tried to redefine his role, he played his best footy for us in the middle bit we've played him on the flanks.Wasn't desperate enough on the field IMO.
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Wasn't he one of our leading tacklers? I also believe we've tried to redefine his role, he played his best footy for us in the middle bit we've played him on the flanks.Wasn't desperate enough on the field IMO.
Have to say whilst I see the need to get in the second round and possibly Polec, and given his age he seemed a good candidate, trading Vince doesn't sit comfortably. We've lost too many players and now we've packed the bags of one of our favourite players.
We can all live in fantasy land and believe the spin that we haven't been shopping players but that's bullshit. We've said for a year that we want to trade into the early rounds, well how do you do that without trading players?
Players aren't dumb and if other clubs come knocking will their loyalty keep them here? Why, when we've shown we don't believe in it.
Perhaps. We need youngsters to work with and Bernie gets JS and some coin in return.Wasn't he one of our leading tacklers? I also believe we've tried to redefine his role, he played his best footy for us in the middle bit we've played him on the flanks.
He favourited a tweet from his mate that was critisizing the Crows for giving Podsiadly a 2 year deal and only giving LJ 1. So people are guessing he's PO'd/sulking and will want to leave.LJ, for what reason?
Oh sweet jeez - do we want to win a f....g flag or not.
oh come one, FFS this board is bi-polar sometimes.
every other club in the comp trades players for some reason or another - ******* hell, Collingwood is about to trade Heath Shaw.
The simple fact is that the Crows rightly don't see Vince as part of their future, Melbourne on the other hand need the Vince type of player.
The Crows would be stupid to offer Vince a deal of that magnitude and rightly let Vince take a better deal rather than hold on to him.
not everthing has to be a anti-afc conspiracy theory or some drama filled deterioration of Club unity.
They do? I don't see too many contracted players being traded. Shaw is being traded for being a bad influence, the two aren't comparable.oh come one, FFS this board is bi-polar sometimes.
every other club in the comp trades players for some reason or another - ******* hell, Collingwood is about to trade Heath Shaw.
The simple fact is that the Crows rightly don't see Vince as part of their future, Melbourne on the other hand need the Vince type of player.
The Crows would be stupid to offer Vince a deal of that magnitude and rightly let Vince take a better deal rather than hold on to him.
not everthing has to be a anti-afc conspiracy theory or some drama filled deterioration of Club unity.
When I call you a peanut, what's my agenda?Doesn't fit their agenda![]()
No by himself of course not. But Vince is the poster boy for a brigade of failed senior players that must be culled in order for us to win a flag.They do? I don't see too many contracted players being traded. Shaw is being traded for being a bad influence, the two aren't comparable.
Melbourne knew to target Vince because we invited them to.
And Peter J, do you think pick 23 is going to win us a flag?
He favourited a tweet from his mate that was critisizing the Crows for giving Podsiadly a 2 year deal and only giving LJ 1. So people are guessing he's PO'd/sulking and will want to leave.
No but holding onto players who could walk for nothing next year when we give them a one year contract extension isn't either. Do we continue to be nice and not hard edged...Collingwood is going to clean up again at the trade table for the second time in two years because they are prepared to move players on who won't win them a flag...like Shaw.
I hate it that it had to be Bernie that was the one to show that we mean business, but that's the way footy is going like it or not. We have seen contracted players move. NDS to the Saints just the other day. It will happen more and more often especially when they take away the compo picks for FA in the next couple of years. Bernie's dad had it right that our sanctions from Muppet and Trigger have had something to do with him leaving, but only a small part.
As for Johnston...be POed about a one year deal. If you get the shits up it will be the last year of AFL footy you'll ever play. Take it as well Pods is here I'm 10 years younger I'll work my ass off and keep him out of the side or take his place in the side/
I would be spending a lot of time picking his brain, never stop learning!
When I call you a peanut, what's my agenda?
Completely random (and almost certainly stupid) idea I had floating around in my head earlier today, which I haven't thought about enough to recognise the problems with it, but how does this sound.
Get rid of trade week altogether (other than free agency), or only allow picks to be traded. If a player wants to leave a club, they nominate for the draft, and whatever pick a club takes them at, the player's previous club gets an immediate selection afterwards. That way you can be pretty sure the club is getting market value in terms of the pick receives. The player can nominate contractual conditions, just as before.
Of course, you lose some fluidity with this system - clubs don't have the option to swap picks when trading for a player, or whatever. But that would probably make things simpler anyway.
Not that the AFLPA would ever allow it to happen.
Yeh well I'm not sure the AFC would have been thrilled with Bernie doing three fifths of f-all since winning our B&F so...swings and roundabouts.
Glad we are shot of him and I hope it's made very clear to the players who remain that you're either 100% in, or you're out.
Why would clubs do that?If we don't secure any more players or extra picks in the last week of trade period. I hope we try and exchange draft picks to move us up the draft order
Examples
Gws get pick 23 in exchange for pick 21
Hawthorn get pick 21 in exchange for pick 19