List Mgmt. 2014 Free Agency, draft and trades news and discussion **Not the trade hypotheticals thread"

[Strapping Young Lad]

#Sulking

I'm not even mad bro.

 

[Adebisi]

It's interesting for that reason alone.

Surely only interesting if there was even a faint chance. I just dont see it.

Though, i was shocked when Ken Judge gave Jon Hassall a second chance...so you never know.

 

[Brant]

Don't be so sure.

The single biggest myth in football is that Suckling is an elite kick. He is a long kick but his accuracy is no better than good/average and his decision making is often poor. As stated above, Suckling also struggles defensively. In my view he is absolutely tradeable.

I think Suckling is an elite kick, in isolation.

It falls down when the target is moving (running), or he's being pressured by an opponent, or he's tired, or he's on his wrong side etc. In effect, a lot of things have to be right for his kick to go where he wants it to; or, instead you (I) may say that he's vulnerable to a number of influences impacting his capacity to hit his target. So, the number of failures that occur when attempting to perform his elite kicks is relatively high in comparison to someone who plays it safe & attempts make-able kicks (Birch, Mitch & Gibbo). I'd put Hodge in the same category.

 

[play2win]

you are stinking up the off season targets thread with pots on sucko again.......

not many free agents out there that improve their disposal efficiency under pressure. can you name one?

 

[Brant]

you are stinking up the off season targets thread with pots on sucko again.......

not many free agents out there that improve their disposal efficiency under pressure. can you name one?

My reply was relevant to the conversation (maybe not thread title) when I read it - I had no idea of the conversation that ensued for 2 more pages following as that, from a thread perspective, was the future.

Of course nobody kicks better when under pressure. Most quickly learn not to attempt. But alas, my post was actually affirming my thoughts that his kick (in isolation) is elite. I also think he's running a lot quicker (straight line) than previous. We've clearly built a side around disposal effectiveness & versatility - I wonder which other sides would value those abilities as highly as we do, being that a lot of other sides seem to value either ball getting or run/carry higher than disposal.

 

[HR Roughnstuf]

I would take Tom Mitchell in a heartbeat he is a seriously good young player and I think will go onto great things. He didn't seem to have any issue adjusting to AFL level in his first year, and am not entirely unsure why he is languishing in the seconds presently... hell he recently got a 64 touch 4 goal haul in the seconds which is obscene!

Pretty sure they signed him on longer last year.

Besides he also receives ambassador payments from the AFL to stay

 

[lickmerocks]

I would actually like to see suckers play as a half forward.

 

[Brishawk]

I would actually like to see suckers play as a half forward.

I actually laughed out aloud when I read another Suckling post in this thread. I had to check the title three times!

You will want this thread

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/the-sucklng-thread-we-had-to-have.1064782/page-3#post-33289835

 

[Steven Tyler]

Steven May from Gold Coast hasn't yet re-signed, with negotiations hitting a stumbling block, according to the HeraldSun!
Several clubs interested

 

[Brant]

Steven May from Gold Coast hasn't yet re-signed, with negotiations hitting a stumbling block, according to the HeraldSun!
Several clubs interested

Police still interviewing him from his repeated assaults against Reiwoldt a few weeks back. f he wore Brown & Gold he'd have given away 40 free kicks & been suspended for for 6 weeks. And he looks like Will Minson's straight haired brother. Is Will Minson free?

 

[Brishawk]

Steven May from Gold Coast hasn't yet re-signed, with negotiations hitting a stumbling block, according to the HeraldSun!
Several clubs interested

Interested. Very interested. We can pay what he is worth...

 

[Jewbacca]

Steven May from Gold Coast hasn't yet re-signed, with negotiations hitting a stumbling block, according to the HeraldSun!

I'd let Campbell Brown handle negotiations on our behalf.

 

[Rushed_Behind]

Steven May from Gold Coast hasn't yet re-signed, with negotiations hitting a stumbling block, according to the HeraldSun!
Several clubs interested

How about we use suckling in a trade for him.

 

[Steven Tyler]

How about we use suckling in a trade for him.

Only if we throw in Lowden for free as well

 

[beta_condition]

Only if we throw in Lowden for free as well

and a classic swap of picks

 

[Rushed_Behind]

Schoey will be the steak knives in the deal. But I fear without schoey and suckling who will we blame for losses and poor performances?

 

[Rioli magic]

Schoey will be the steak knives in the deal. But I fear without schoey and suckling who will we blame for losses and poor performances?

 

[Rushed_Behind]

Lol World Cup fever.

 

[MrPremiership]

very sharp stuff there RM

 

[Pessimistic]

Anyone think if shoe had suckers role hed be 150% better, and a handy back up kpp player too ?

 

[List Manager]

The more I see of Collingwood's Josh Thomas the more I'd like our recruiting department to target him as that inside mid we crave. He is borderline best 22-24 in Collingwood's side and with the promise of more permanent midfield time at Hawthorn I wonder if he'd be gettable. The Pies would no doubt ask quite a bit in return though.

Just one of a few young mids I've been watching in hope that we may be able to attract to our club.

 

[spudmaster]

The more I see of Collingwood's Josh Thomas the more I'd like our recruiting department to target him as that inside mid we crave. He is borderline best 22-24 in Collingwood's side and with the promise of more permanent midfield time at Hawthorn I wonder if he'd be gettable. The Pies would no doubt ask quite a bit in return though.

Just one of a few young mids I've been watching in hope that we may be able to attract to our club.

Every single Pies player is worth a top10 pick, whether through compensation picks from the AFL or on the trade table.
Absolutely no point trying to trade with them. They overvalue their players beyond belief.

 

[Steven Tyler]

The more I see of Collingwood's Josh Thomas the more I'd like our recruiting department to target him as that inside mid we crave. He is borderline best 22-24 in Collingwood's side and with the promise of more permanent midfield time at Hawthorn I wonder if he'd be gettable. The Pies would no doubt ask quite a bit in return though.

Just one of a few young mids I've been watching in hope that we may be able to attract to our club.

Box Hill have enough inside mids

 

[Davo-27]

Hawthorn really should be looking at Frawley and/or Dangerfield if they are available, if they pay a little over then so be it..... but it all comes down to circumstance and luck, i doubt the Hawks will get either of those 2 unfortunately

 

[Easy Slips Catch]

... They overvalue their players beyond belief.

Agree wholeheartedly. But what does work in our favour is Pies have been consistently leaking players since Bucks came on board. They will no doubt leak a few more at seasons' end. The amount paid for all these previous Buck jumpers looks high until you factor in that they all took place during heavily compromised drafts.