Toast 2014 National Draft, pick #31 - welcome to Hawthorn Daniel Howe

["The Roar Is Back"]

Mate am i right in saying he's Lachlan's little bro ?

Yes

 

[HawkXNtric]

Can you explain those DOB!
They don't make any sense

Howe was born in December. Under-age football is based on being under a certain age as at 1st January. So the guys that turned 18 in January 2014 are eligible to play U18s in 2014 season.

Because Howe turned 18 in December 2013, he missed out on U18s in 2014 by less than a month. He was allowed to play in the TAC however as an "over-ager", which simply means he wasn't technically eligible to play - being born the "wrong" side of 1st January. He will turn 19 next month.

He was eligible for the draft the previous year in 2013 when he played U18s as a "bottom-ager". This meant of course that he was playing against many older kids. All through under-age football, the kids born in the early part of the year are at a great advantage. I did see some statistics once showing that a significantly greater portion of the kids drafted to the AFL were born in the first half of the calendar year.

So, he's not really a "mature age player" as such, as the media have described him.

 

[Blaze Storm]

Howe was born in December. Under-age football is based on being under a certain age as at 1st January. So the guys that turned 18 in January 2014 are eligible to play U18s in 2014 season.

Because Howe turned 18 in December 2013, he missed out on U18s in 2014 by less than a month. He was allowed to play in the TAC however as an "over-ager", which simply means he wasn't technically eligible to play - being born the "wrong" side of 1st January. He will turn 19 next month.

He was eligible for the draft the previous year in 2013 when he played U18s as a "bottom-ager". This meant of course that he was playing against many older kids. All through under-age football, the kids born in the early part of the year are at a great advantage. I did see some statistics once showing that a significantly greater portion of the kids drafted to the AFL were born in the first half of the calendar year.

So, he's not really a "mature age player" as such, as the media have described him.

They are referring to the fact that the post listed them as being born in 2005-2006 rather than 1995-1996.

 

[Agent Smith]

They are referring to the fact that the post listed them as being born in 2005-2006 rather than 1995-1996.

I think the dates are MM/DD not MM/YY.

 

[Steven Tyler]

I think the dates are MM/DD not MM/YY.

 

[arupist]

I think the dates are MM/DD not MM/YY.

They are not dates, they are latitude and longitude.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Was just having another look at his highlights vid after reading some comments about his 'double grabbing' of marks, and I think that's been overplayed. Look at the way his hitting the contest and contorting his body when 'double grabbing'. Even the best players do that.



Reckon this kid could be very good, as he looks to have a good read of the play as well as a nice boot and a bit of class. I won't be at all surprised if we turn him into something special.

 

[becalm]

Howe was born in December. Under-age football is based on being under a certain age as at 1st January. So the guys that turned 18 in January 2014 are eligible to play U18s in 2014 season.

Because Howe turned 18 in December 2013, he missed out on U18s in 2014 by less than a month. He was allowed to play in the TAC however as an "over-ager", which simply means he wasn't technically eligible to play - being born the "wrong" side of 1st January. He will turn 19 next month.

He was eligible for the draft the previous year in 2013 when he played U18s as a "bottom-ager". This meant of course that he was playing against many older kids. All through under-age football, the kids born in the early part of the year are at a great advantage. I did see some statistics once showing that a significantly greater portion of the kids drafted to the AFL were born in the first half of the calendar year.

So, he's not really a "mature age player" as such, as the media have described him.

The media use "mature age player" as though it was some sort of disease.
"Done't touch him hes a mature age player".

 

[dipper86]

Was just having another look at his highlights vid after reading some comments about his 'double grabbing' of marks, and I think that's been overplayed. Look at the way his hitting the contest and contorting his body when 'double grabbing'. Even the best players do that.

I think people are being a little pedantic....I only counted 2 or 3 times out of his 13 marks in the video where he double grabbed and that included the one handed attempt and one that was whacked forward out of his hands.
I'm a little bemused how we have ignored his one grab marks running back with the flight of the ball on multiple occasions in the vid.

I loved the skill and agility at 1.07 falling to the ground one hand pick up turn and dish off in the one motion.

I'm actually quite excited by this kid.

 

[Hawkas1988]

I think people are being a little pedantic....I only counted 2 or 3 times out of his 13 marks in the video where he double grabbed and that included the one handed attempt and one that was whacked forward out of his hands.
I'm a little bemused how we have ignored his one grab marks running back with the flight of the ball on multiple occasions in the vid.

I loved the skill and agility at 1.07 falling to the ground one hand pick up turn and dish off in the one motion.

I'm actually quite excited by this kid.

Yeah the more I read about him and watch his highlights, I'm really excited about him.

Love his courage and skills, if he can turn into a strong mid with elite decision making then we have a beauty.

 

[Roger Rogerson]

Looks a great size. I am struggling to think of a player we currently have who is similar in terms of footskills and ability to read the ball in the air.

 

[Lord Mud of Glenferrie]

Sorry to ruin the feel good vibe but I can't help but feel he is Jordan Kelly Mark 2. I don't like his hands really. More excited with what we got at 49 and 50 to be honest, happy to be proven wrong over time though.

You could be right. Who Knows. But he is not like Kelly.

This kid can take contested overhead marks and can win his own ball. For me that is box 1 and 2 ticked.

 

[Roger Rogerson]

Cant see the Kelly comparisons to be honest. Kelly had a poor turning circle and average pace which at times dropped to below average when he blew up. Wasnt an aerial specialist nor was he a possession winner or playmaker which Howe looks like he could be - a general. Just was a disciplined team player who did jobs week in week out and was effective at VFL level but just no way was going further.

 

[dipper86]

Sorry to ruin the feel good vibe but I can't help but feel he is Jordan Kelly Mark 2. I don't like his hands really. More excited with what we got at 49 and 50 to be honest, happy to be proven wrong over time though.

The only thing they have in common is that they both played at half back.
He looks a step above at the same age in speed agility and a deeper skill set.....time will tell.

 

[B&GBlood]

Looks a great size. I am struggling to think of a player we currently have who is similar in terms of footskills and ability to read the ball in the air.

Luke Hodge perhaps Roger

 

[Roger Rogerson]

Luke Hodge perhaps Roger

He was the one that popped into my head so agree without doubt but was hesitant to make such comparisons on a public forum. But he does have that general-type look about him.

 

[sven_inc]

SEN Mock:

Daniel HOWE
Murray Bushrangers | 4/12/95 | H: 192cm | W: 85kg
Dan is another private school boy who came back and played for us as a 19-year-old and was superb. Dan has really clean hands, makes good, quick decisions by hand and foot and executes well under pressure. He showed great vision in traffic, and will hit someone 50 metres away without them having to change stride. He went into the midfield for us this year and was brilliant, including a three-goal game in the final at Visy Park. Played well for Vic Country and three games for Richmond’s VFL team and did well. He has the dimensions and attributes of the new-age big midfielder, and has done everything right. – Murray Bushrangers coach Darren Ogier

 

[sven_inc]

Bound For Glory Mock:

Dan Howe

Position: Utility
Height: 191 cm, Weight: 84 kg, DOB: 12/04/1995
Club: Murray Bushrangers
Plays like:

Looming as the Tom Langdon of this year’s draft, Dan Howe is a tall utility who has really found a home at half back this year for the Bushrangers. In particular, he has starred in the role for Vic Country in the Championships. The 19-year old prospect has gone from rangy forward to a rebounding defender, who – like Langdon – isn’t afraid to take an overhead mark in defence and use the ball confidently by foot under pressure. He links up well with a chain of handballs, and is another player whose lateral movement is quite good. He’s comfortable at ground level, rarely fumbling while also tackling hard and holding his own in one-on-one battles. His instincts as a forward come to the fore in defence, where he takes a higher than average amount of defensive marks. He uses the ball quickly, but his composure in particular is terrific. The way in which he has evolved himself into a more damaging and versatile player since being overlooked last year points to positive signs for further development, in which he’s projected to become a permanent midfielder, or at least wingman. His elimination final for the Bushrangers was his best effort of the year, playing as a goal-kicking, high accumulating wingman who offered drive and an attacking nature blended with supreme two-way running.

 

[seysearles]

Looks a great size. I am struggling to think of a player we currently have who is similar in terms of footskills and ability to read the ball in the air.

Birchall

 

[threesixpio]

SEN Mock:

Daniel HOWE
Murray Bushrangers | 4/12/95 | H: 192cm | W: 85kg
Dan is another private school boy who came back and played for us as a 19-year-old and was superb. Dan has really clean hands, makes good, quick decisions by hand and foot and executes well under pressure. He showed great vision in traffic, and will hit someone 50 metres away without them having to change stride. He went into the midfield for us this year and was brilliant, including a three-goal game in the final at Visy Park. Played well for Vic Country and three games for Richmond’s VFL team and did well. He has the dimensions and attributes of the new-age big midfielder, and has done everything right. – Murray Bushrangers coach Darren Ogier

I know there's a bit of hyperbole around these things but that sounds kinda awesome

 

[threesixpio]

Bound For Glory Mock:

Dan Howe

Position: Utility
Height: 191 cm, Weight: 84 kg, DOB: 12/04/1995
Club: Murray Bushrangers
Plays like:

Looming as the Tom Langdon of this year’s draft, Dan Howe is a tall utility who has really found a home at half back this year for the Bushrangers. In particular, he has starred in the role for Vic Country in the Championships. The 19-year old prospect has gone from rangy forward to a rebounding defender, who – like Langdon – isn’t afraid to take an overhead mark in defence and use the ball confidently by foot under pressure. He links up well with a chain of handballs, and is another player whose lateral movement is quite good. He’s comfortable at ground level, rarely fumbling while also tackling hard and holding his own in one-on-one battles. His instincts as a forward come to the fore in defence, where he takes a higher than average amount of defensive marks. He uses the ball quickly, but his composure in particular is terrific. The way in which he has evolved himself into a more damaging and versatile player since being overlooked last year points to positive signs for further development, in which he’s projected to become a permanent midfielder, or at least wingman. His elimination final for the Bushrangers was his best effort of the year, playing as a goal-kicking, high accumulating wingman who offered drive and an attacking nature blended with supreme two-way running.

Sounds very Clarkoish. Howe many positions were mentioned there?

 

[MrFujiMoto]

I am happy we got him. He has been listed as everything from a mobile HBF to a midfielder to a HFF. That's what we like, versatility and footy smarts.

Just watched his highlights again and was reminded of my first thought when I saw them. He moves and hits the ball very much like Nat Fyfe. That's all I can see when I see him play, he looks like Nat Fyfe.

 

[MinerBoy]

Good mark you say! Related to Jeremy?

 

[sven_inc]

Another BFG Mock:

Dan Howe
Murray Bushrangers
Height: 191 cm
Weight: 84 kg
Position: Utility
Player comparison: Louis Herbert
Strengths: High flyer, run and carry, goal kicking, versatile
Areas needing improvement: Inbetween size

Coming back as a 19-year-old, Howe has had a sensational season, coming in the bests in nine out of his 11 games. Howe was named in the back pocket for the TAC Cup All Australian team. After starting as a forward, Howe showed he was versatile, moving to a back pocket where he took numerous intercept marks and created run from the back line. Howe is also a talented outside midfielder, as his speed and solid kicking makes for many successful forward pushes. His three goal haul in the finals was as exciting as you’ve ever seen in the TAC Cup. He should be ready to go in round one next year.

 

[seysearles]