2014 Trade/FA Discussions

[Ray Button]

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Merrett is the other interesting one - pretty sure Freo and Hawks would trade their 1st rd pick for him because of their need to replace McPharlin and Lake at season's end.
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Can't see Merrett attracting a 1st round pick; could barely see him getting a 2nd round.

Turning 30 shortly, his form this year has been pretty ordinary, even allowing that he's played out of his favoured position. He came only 17th in the club championship (av votes 3.5). Only a couple of years back he was regarded as one of the most important players at the club, but is now in his twilight.

I'd still like to see him around the Lions for the remainder of his contract (? two years), but given his age and form his trade currency is low, possibly as yet another stop-gap mature for one of the (?)other developing teams.

 

[Mavlions1961]

Whats every one make of this.

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[POBT]

If someone offered a top 20 pick for Merrett, I would giggle like a school girl.

Giggle, I tells ya!

The only way I see a Merrett trade going down is if Leppitsch makes it clear to Merrett that he is no longer an automatic selection in defence and Merrett makes it clear that he wants to finish his career down back. That's the sort of scenario where I could see a trade being facilitated to a club like Gold Coast or GWS.

But I don't think there is a long line of suitors desperate for Merrett. And I think his age, injury history and relative lack of performance in recent years limits any trade value he might have. Gold Coast's second round pick would be a great outcome IMO.

 

[Skoob]

Someone tweeted that Swann was interviewed on an FM radio programme this morning and confirmed Lions WILL be making an offer for Ryder.
Anyone hear/read anything to confirm?

 

[Mavlions1961]

Someone tweeted that Swann was interviewed on an FM radio programme this morning and confirmed Lions WILL be making an offer for Ryder.
Anyone hear/read anything to confirm?

You mean this

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[Skoob]

You mean this

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That's the one or one like it, thought it said a brekkie radio show. I don't know what "a footy breakfast" is.

 

[Mavlions1961]

That's the one or one like it, thought it said a brekkie radio show. I don't know what "a footy breakfast" is.

the quote came from Phil Lutton, apparently he was the MC, he is a journo for the Brisbane times.

 

[Davemonkey]

That's the one or one like it, thought it said a brekkie radio show. I don't know what "a footy breakfast" is.

11 Weetbix and a Sherrin.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Big name player eh?

Looks like we are getting Giansiracusa to pull a Mal Michael.

Seriously though, it is obviously Beams.

 

[Skoob]

the quote came from Phil Lutton, apparently he was the MC, he is a journo for the Brisbane times.

It was probably Phil's then, maybe. I follow Phil. I didn't take much notice, as I figured it would pop up here pretty quick. (As I was typing my post, as it turned out).

 

[Davemonkey]

Big name player eh?

Looks like we are getting Giansiracusa to pull a Mal Michael.

Luring Bontompelli?

Perhaps relisting Polkinghorne?

 

[Skoob]

Big name player eh?

Looks like we are getting Giansiracusa to pull a Mal Michael.

Seriously though, it is obviously Beams.

Maybe one of those hyphenated players, they go alright.

 

[Football Pope]

11 Weetbix and a Sherrin.

"The Bix" a move from Union?

 

[3KZ is Football]

If someone offered a top 20 pick for Merrett, I would giggle like a school girl.

Giggle, I tells ya!

The only way I see a Merrett trade going down is if Leppitsch makes it clear to Merrett that he is no longer an automatic selection in defence and Merrett makes it clear that he wants to finish his career down back. That's the sort of scenario where I could see a trade being facilitated to a club like Gold Coast or GWS.

But I don't think there is a long line of suitors desperate for Merrett. And I think his age, injury history and relative lack of performance in recent years limits any trade value he might have. Gold Coast's second round pick would be a great outcome IMO.

Yep. Giggle like a school girl. Me too.

 

[Mavlions1961]

Luring Bontompelli?

Perhaps relisting Polkinghorne?

The word I am getting is the return of SOKS!!

 

[Davemonkey]

The word I am getting is the return of SOKS!!

That's why I went cold on Roberts-Thompson or Hoskin-Elliot too easy to abbreviate.

 

[3KZ is Football]

Maybe one of those hyphenated players, they go alright.

Official: Lions going after Lewis Roberts-Thomson.

 

[Mavlions1961]

I quizzed Phil Lutton about the big fish, this is his response.

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[Hollow Knight]

Cale Hooker wants out as well?

 

[Mavlions1961]

Cale Hooker wants out as well?

Now is this sarcasm or fact, I can't pick you TBD.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Sarcasm.

Why are we even entertaining that the other player isn't Beams? It has to be.

 

[Davemonkey]

Now is this sarcasm or fact, I can't pick you TBD.

Follow the line. You'll get off this snag eventually.

 

[Ironmonger]

If someone offered a top 20 pick for Merrett, I would giggle like a school girl.

Giggle, I tells ya!

The only way I see a Merrett trade going down is if Leppitsch makes it clear to Merrett that he is no longer an automatic selection in defence and Merrett makes it clear that he wants to finish his career down back. That's the sort of scenario where I could see a trade being facilitated to a club like Gold Coast or GWS.

But I don't think there is a long line of suitors desperate for Merrett. And I think his age, injury history and relative lack of performance in recent years limits any trade value he might have. Gold Coast's second round pick would be a great outcome IMO.

No need to tell me twice. I fully believe that you would giggle like a school girl, POBs.

I agree that Merrett is at a stage where if he wanted to leave and someone was keen to take him we could get him to the club of his choice for a token trade, similarly to how we got West at the end of last season.

On another topic, while it's not fun to talk about trading away talented young players, the Aish > Dangerfield > Beams exchange (with draft picks and whatever thrown in as appropriate) actually makes a lot of sense. For one thing, it gives each of the Lions, Crows and Pies the opportunitiy to get full value out of a valuable player who might have itchy feet.
There are a variety of political reason why it's not likely to happen.

There's something quite broken about the AFL trading system. It doesn't seem to even occur to anyone that a trade might be done that actually benefits both clubs. We approach Collingwood about Beams, and immediately their president and fans get their backs up on the assumption that we want to screw them over, even though we appear to be prepared to offer a fair deal for a contracted player, instead of waiting until he falls out of contract and playing the PSD game.

I'm not a big fan of treating human beings like interchangable commodities that can be shifted from team to team at the whim of club owners, like we see in some American sports, but it's a shame that teams don't seem to be able to genuinely fix some problems through mutually beneficial trades.

Instead clubs try to acquire players through free agency or by manipulating themselves into a strong position ahead of trade negotiations. At the same time players seem to be finding all kinds of ways to increase their own mobility, even when under contract. This is bad news for us, particularly while we're struggling. The successful clubs in the footy heartland will always find it easier to attract player with options.

Right now, it seems exciting that we might have an opportunity to get one or two good players, but the trend of player movements over the long run should worry us.

 

[radiotron]

Official: Lions going after Lewis Roberts-Thomson.

this one?

 

[Ironmonger]

this one?

Jekyll and Hyde probably not a bad analogy for Merrett, actually.