List Mgmt. 2015 Draft Thread - Pre-Season & Rookie Draft Friday 11:00am AEDT

[webbie]

Rioli is the best crumbing forward in the draft!!!!
Has speed tackles!!!!
So hes 100% the player we need

 

[RobsJourney]

On my previous comment about keeping the faith and backing in the recruiters, there are a few clubs who might drop off and some who will come up. I think we will rise again even further. New kids aged 18 are exciting and we are likely gonna be jealous of some of the guns we don't get to draft ourselves, but what wins premierships is a cohesive unit and continuity of a good chunk of the group. We have both of those things, but our core is also still young. Their best footy is still ahead of them and our newer core players (B Ellis, Vlastuin, Miles for example) are still very young.
We will at the very least hang around a similar mark to last year and adding one new kid at pick 12 will improve our list even more, but chances are that player won't get a game as they'll be behind noobs in Townsend, Yarran, Moore and then also C Ellis and Menadue, plus Lennon's spot is now his to lose.
So whoever we do get is likely gonna be a gun and will at the least improve our depth, maybe maybe steal a spot.
But teams ahead of us getting multiple high picks won't just shoot past us, no way, otherwise Carlton and Melbourne would have already been winning flags.
And based on all this, with the low amount of multiple high picks we've had and our arguably 'just average' recruiting, we must be bloody well coached to do as well as we do. So big tick to Dimma, love ya mate!





So, with all that said.... Welcome to Richmond pick 12 - Clayton Oliver.





(nah really, he'll realistically be gone so I'm finally deciding on Ryan Burton. Take the punt Tigers, strong & bold style!)

 

[Deanos]

Rioli to Richmond. May as well trade in my membership. Will be filthy if we take him.

Spoken to a few people today, they think Ah Chee will be gone. Gold Coast/Adelaide likely. Richmond were in SA recently, so I do get the feeling they're leaning towards Burton.

I don't get that talk. Surely Gold Coast take Weideman or Francis, which ever falls if Oliver doesn't get picked early and if he doesn't they get Oliver. Then Adelaide take Milera. Even though they don't really need him.

 

[Tigers Time]

For Ah Chee to go before our pick dosen't that mean someone that was predicted to go before us have to fall?

 

[TigerOfOld77]

Kieran Collins at pick12??? ... add that to Rance, Houli, Vlastuin, Yarran, Mcintosh and Grimes.

That is a very attacking and creative back half in my opinion.

Already picked up Townsend and Moore for clearance and inside grunt.

Then maybe Kerbatieh or K. Lovell to fill our small forward void with our 2nd. (3rd round pick).

 

[GoTigers2015]

We did offer 12 for Yarran and 20.

I'd rather we had 20 & 31, myself

That was after we had pick 19. Our picks would have been 19,20 and Yarran for pick 12 , 31 and second round pick next year.
Would have been a good result if we had done that deal.

 

[GoTigers2015]

My contingency plans for each pick

Pick 12:
Ryan Clarke 185cm 84kg Midfielder - Hard gut running inside/outside midfielder, defensively accountable and able to hit the scoreboard when pushing forward.
Mitch Hibberd 191cm 85kg Utility - Big bodied utility in the Goddard mold, can play in all 3 areas of the ground. Can hurt teams with his footskills.
Callum Ah Chee 182cm 75kg Midfielder/Forward - Exciting small forward/midfielder who brings X factor. In time should develop into an exciting outside midfielder
Rhys Mathieson 185cm 79kg Midfielder - inside midfielder who loves a contest, disposal a little questionable but as an inside midfielder that can be excused.
Jade Gresham 177cm 74kg Midfielder - 6-7cm taller and he'd be my number 1 pick. Has all the tools but lacks the size you want as an AFL midfielder.

Pick 47:
Kurt Mutimer 185cm 82kg Midfielder - Similar player to Clarke in that he is an inside outside midfielder who runs hard. On the outside he can be very damaging with a left boot capable of sending it 60m accurately.
Declan Mountford 183cm 80kg Midfielder - Another midfielder with a big motor, despite his slight frame he won 50% of his possessions at WAFL reserves level in a contest. Would need to add some size to be capable of that at AFL level
David Cunningham 183cm 79kg Forward/Midfielder - quick outside midfielder who needs a fair bit of refinement to become an AFL player. Still a lot to work with and at this stage of the draft can't be too picky
Mason Redman 186cm 77kg Utility - another of those hybrid types who can play both inside and outside. Again a bit of work would need to be done to bring him up to scratch but could develop into a nice size midfielder
Hisham Kerbatieh 177cm 77kg Forward - a small forward who has plenty of tricks. Watching him play WA in Perth in the champs he showed that he can grab the ball on lead and also be a handful when the ball is on the ground. If we missed Ah Chee at 12 he'd be a handy back up option in that small forward role.

Pick 74: Unlikely to be used but just in case
Darcy Cameron 204cm 101cm Ruckman - we need ruck help and Cameron is the most ready to go ruckman in the draft this year. Would be handy if needed this year but give him a couple of years and he could be a number 1 ruck
Jack Firns 195cm 92kg KPD - Chaplin getting older uncertainty about Elton & Astbury moving forward a younger KPD option to develop won't hurt
Mitch King 200cm 92kg Ruckman - unlike Cameron King would be a project ruckman to develop alongside Soldo for 3-4 years has a high hitout to advantage rating
Patrick Levicki 194cm 89kg KPD - mature aged KPD that would provide coverage in case of injury and Elton/Astbury don't step up
Josh Porter 195cm 98kg KPF - don't really need a KPF but if he is on the board and we're not confident he makes it to the rookie draft I'd take him in the draft and lock him away

No Gach

 

[GoTigers2015]

Cal Twomey has the following go before our pick: Weitering, Shache, Mills, Oliver, Francis, Parish, Ah Chee, Weideman, Hopper, Mckay, Kennedy, Hipwood, Milera and Curnow.

Of the guys left I can only see Balic, Burton or Collins breaking into the above group and I doubt it. By now Twomey will know which players have been invited to the combine (top 10). This means we most likely miss on Ah Chee who best suits our needs.

Most likely we are choosing from Rioli, Gresham, Balic and Burton. Dam.

So of this 4 who do we want?

Welcome to Essendon Adam Tomlinson 2016?

 

[GoTigers2015]

Rioli to Richmond. May as well trade in my membership. Will be filthy if we take him.

Spoken to a few people today, they think Ah Chee will be gone. Gold Coast/Adelaide likely. Richmond were in SA recently, so I do get the feeling they're leaning towards Burton.

I have a suspicion we are tanking for Burton, so they Crows think that he is available pick 13

 

[Grockadoc]

I don't get that talk. Surely Gold Coast take Weideman or Francis, which ever falls if Oliver doesn't get picked early and if he doesn't they get Oliver. Then Adelaide take Milera. Even though they don't really need him.

Ah Chee would be a good pick for Gold Coast as that talented flanker replacement for Bennell.

 

[GoTigers2015]

Heard we were interested in a BL academy member from a reliable source. However, I heard from someone else that we liked Mabior Chol so I assumed he was the BL academy member- So possibly...

Read the article on him and is very close to his family. Would be a big risk to recruit him.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...r-chol-puts-family-first-20151107-gkt80g.html

 

[Tomnat Tigers]

Kieran Collins at pick12??? ... add that to Rance, Houli, Vlastuin, Yarran, Mcintosh and Grimes.

That is a very attacking and creative back half in my opinion.

Already picked up Townsend and Moore for clearance and inside grunt.

Then maybe Kerbatieh or K. Lovell to fill our small forward void with our 2nd. (3rd round pick).

I don't mind Collins but there is likely to be a key defender with potential available with our second pick, which this being the case I would rather go after a different type with pick 12.

 

[blaisee]

Rioli would be the most exciting high potential player we could draft and the biggest risk.

Has basically shown glimpses of brilliance, and is an elite runner with a unique blend of speed and endurance, electrifying pace.

Knock is, at the moment, he doesn't get much of the ball.

However, he does put on elite forward pressure that is Cyril like, and FFS he wouldn't have to do much to be an upgrade on Morris as he at least kicks goals.

Seeing a Rioli in a a richmond jumper on the MCG in number 17 would be a thing of beauty for us romantic Richmond fans.

What will be, will be.

 

[stars alive]

Rioli would be the most exciting high potential player we could draft and the biggest risk.

Has basically shown glimpses of brilliance, and is an elite runner with a unique blend of speed and endurance,

Knock is, at the moment, he doesn't get much of the ball.

However, he does put on elite forward pressure that is Cyril like, and FFS he wouldn't have to do much to be an upgrade on Morris as he at least kicks goals.

Seeing a Rioli in a a richmond jumper on the MCG in number 17 would be a thing of beauty for us romantic Richmond fans.

What will be, will be.

imagine rioli and kerbatieh with hardwick woowooowooowee..

 

[Tomnat Tigers]

Rioli would be the most exciting high potential player we could draft and the biggest risk.

Has basically shown glimpses of brilliance, and is an elite runner with a unique blend of speed and endurance, electrifying pace.

Knock is, at the moment, he doesn't get much of the ball.

However, he does put on elite forward pressure that is Cyril like, and FFS he wouldn't have to do much to be an upgrade on Morris as he at least kicks goals.

Seeing a Rioli in a a richmond jumper on the MCG in number 17 would be a thing of beauty for us romantic Richmond fans.

What will be, will be.

Any real/solid evidence of this?

 

[blaisee]

Any real/solid evidence of this?

Twomey usually has excellent mail.

 

[Tomnat Tigers]

Twomey usually has excellent mail.

I was questioning his goal kicking ability.

 

[TigerOfOld77]

I don't mind Collins but there is likely to be a key defender with potential available with our second pick, which this being the case I would rather go after a different type with pick 12.

I don't mind Collins but there is likely to be a key defender with potential available with our second pick, which this being the case I would rather go after a different type with pick 12.

Key position players for me in a shallow draft are held in higher regard than mids/fwds as their is greater depth in those latter positions.

With the limitation on interchange and no sub next year, I have faith in our mid brigade kicking more goals as resting forwards.

Dusty, Lids, Sheds, Cotch, Lambo etc.

A ruck man would be nice but I think that is a free-agency option in the next year or so.

 

[Charlie Pannam]

If the Hawks are keen to take Rioli with their first he's obviously got some talent they don't get much wrong.

 

[TheAnt]

Bishop knows more than anyone else in here so i'd value his opinion a bit higher than that.

Selecting a bloke who did very very little until the very end of this year at pick 12 seems like a massive risk I don't think we need to be taking, wouldn't you agree?

I wouldn't disagree Bishop knows his stuff. But heaps of AFL recruiters get made to look fools, reality is none of us know what'll happen to the kids in the AFL system and we'll back our recruiters to make the right call.

We've selected some vanilla (good vanilla) players with our first rounders, almost guaranteed solid B grade players with some more potential upside. We're right in our window, now's the time to take a risk.

 

[Deanos]

Ah Chee would be a good pick for Gold Coast as that talented flanker replacement for Bennell.

Don't disagree, Ah Chee would be a good pick up for quite a few clubs. But if one of Weideman, Francis and Oliver were still there which seems likely, i'd take them before Ah Chee.

 

[blaisee]

I was questioning his goal kicking ability.

Averaged more than a goal a game in tac cup. Kicked 4 in the final v geelong. He is a goal kicker

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

don't want a kpd and not interested in that guy who ****ed his leg up take best available mid/forward. and we wont reach on rioli

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

few guarantees in this draft who ever we pick will give us all hard on's in the nab cup. carlton will pick at least 3 spuds. and the guys Brisbane pick will want out in 3years

 

[Grockadoc]

Don't disagree, Ah Chee would be a good pick up for quite a few clubs. But if one of Weideman, Francis and Oliver were still there which seems likely, i'd take them before Ah Chee.

Oliver seems destined for Melbourne or Essendon, according to Emma Quayle.