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I agree that one or several of the top clubs will make a strong push for Yarran, probably with a top 15 pick. He can sulk all he wants for the remainder of the year, it won't change his value. The reality is he'd be pretty terrifying in a top team, and one of them will roll the dice to get him across. And if he stays there's every chance he'll enjoy his footy again with a fresh start under a new coach.

Lots of talk about this being a shallow draft so I hope he stays and starts enjoying his footy again.
I wonder how close Yarran and Rattan were?
 
As i said. An exchange of picks. If we could get another in the top 30. Id leap at it. Then send Lyons away for Hampton and Wilson. remembering GWS need to lose players

This is terrible.

You have the Crows giving up two reasonable to good players for garbage, and then say completely inaccurate things about GWS, who don't have to lose players.
 
Butcher re-signed 300k a year for 3 years back in 2012 when Carlton were offering 400k for him.

Approx 300k for Cornes. 600k in total.

This seems about right, and Port is at 105% of the cap, right? That's been widely reported.
 

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11 games at age 22 and performs poorly when he gets a game? After 4 years in the system as a first rounder? That has the Jordie Gysberts stink all over it.

Not all players come off in the first round. Kavanagh looks like one of them.

Gysberts atleast played 15 games in his second year.
 
I agree that one or several of the top clubs will make a strong push for Yarran, probably with a top 15 pick. He can sulk all he wants for the remainder of the year, it won't change his value. The reality is he'd be pretty terrifying in a top team, and one of them will roll the dice to get him across. And if he stays there's every chance he'll enjoy his footy again with a fresh start under a new coach.

Lots of talk about this being a shallow draft so I hope he stays and starts enjoying his footy again.
And where do you expect these top 4 clubs are going to get a pick in the top 15 from?
 
Who apart from Dangerfield (who may stay or crows may match the bid) would attract a first round compensation.

I'd say that about it this year. Years gone past their are generally at least 2 compo picks from 2 - 14 but theres only the possiblity of one.

That's unless someone overpays for Leunberger and the AFL feel sorry for the lions.
 
This seems about right, and Port is at 105% of the cap, right? That's been widely reported.
Yeah we were allowed to go up to 105% this season. Not sure if we are went all the way up to 105% though. (5% would be 500k right?)

I remember David King saying he had sources that before the trade period last year we had 1.2mil free space (including the 5% extra) and we ended up spending 1.05mil of that 1.2mil. Ryder (600k), drafted 4 kids (400k) and 1 rookie (50k).

Obviously David King might be making stuff up but if it's the truth then we may be about 350k over at the moment.

Butcher and Cornes (600k) then makes us around 250k under the cap (pending other delistings and not mentioning back ended/front loaded contracts).
 
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Yeah we were allowed to go up to 105% this season. Not if we are went all the way up to 105% though. (5% would be 500k right?)

I remember David King saying he had sources that before the trade period last year we had 1.2mil free space (including the 5% extra) and we ended up spending 1.05mil of that 1.2mil. Ryder (600k), drafted 4 kids (400k) and 1 rookie (50k).

Obviously David King might be making stuff up but if it's the truth then we may be about 350k over at the moment.

Butcher and Cornes (600k) then makes us around 250k under the cap (pending other delistings and not mentioning backended/frontended contracts).

Port would have been stupid not to use the extra cap space while it was available - even if it meant front loading contracts of players to spend as much as possible this year, but meaning there was more available in the 100% in 2016 onwards.

EDIT: People are getting too hung up on this 105% stuff. If a club is within the rules allowed to spend 10.5 million in year one, and 10 million in years 2 and three, it would be stupid of them NOT to structure contracts and spend the whole 10.5 million in the first year, other wise there 500K of cap space available to them (over the three years) that they have not used.
 
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This seems about right, and Port is at 105% of the cap, right? That's been widely reported.

Because we underpaid the cap one year , we then had to repay the extra the next year. So if you pay 95 then you cannot pay 100 next year but must pay 105. At least that's what i thought. So we haven't had to pay 105 to cover all our players , just the way we have loaded our payments. Probably underpaid one year so we can use 105 percent in a year we want to recruit a player ie Ryder , and front load his contract.
 
And where do you expect these top 4 clubs are going to get a pick in the top 15 from?

That's the beauty of being a strong club, you have a lot of players that are perfectly capable but can't break into the team. So you simply shed one to a mid-table team in return for a first round pick upgrade, then on-trade the pick for another gun.
 
That's the beauty of being a strong club, you have a lot of players that are perfectly capable but can't break into the team. So you simply shed one to a mid-table team in return for a first round pick upgrade, then on-trade the pick for another gun.
Example? Can't remmber any trades of that ilk.
 
Melbourne weren't exactly what you would call a mid table club though, I can't think of a lower 1st rounder being upgraded to a mid first using a fringe player.

Are you just bored and looking for an argument on the internet? Can we just agree that trades do in fact happen in exchange for pick upgrades? Or have you made it today's mission to bicker needlessly with a stranger over technicalities?
 
Are you just bored and looking for an argument on the internet? Can we just agree that trades do in fact happen in exchange for pick upgrades? Or have you made it today's mission to bicker needlessly with a stranger over technicalities?
Well, you said it was dead simple for a top 4 club to trade up their 1st rounder; i'ts never happended as far as I can tell, don't get upset :p
 
Well, you said it was dead simple for a top 4 club to trade up their 1st rounder; i'ts never happended as far as I can tell, don't get upset :p

*sigh* the old "u mad?" approach? Seriously? That's probably a sign I should stop talking to you, but I'll give you a hypothetical for the sake of it:

Craig Bird has been in and out of the Swans line up this year, but is a proven solid player. Do you think if the Swans packaged him and 17 in exchange for pick 15, that any club in their right mind would say no?
 
*sigh* the old "u mad?" approach? Seriously? That's probably a sign I should stop talking to you, but I'll give you a hypothetical for the sake of it:

Craig Bird has been in and out of the Swans line up this year, but is a proven solid player. Do you think if the Swans packaged him and 17 in exchange for pick 15, that any club in their right mind would say no?
Yeah you probably should. Do you have any examples that have actually happened though? Sydney would probably just trade him for a ~2nd rounder instead of that scenario IMO. The 'Tyson deal' is a rare beast. It only happened because GWS had their heart set on Kelly and knew 100% they could get him with pick 2.
 

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