2015 Trade/FA Discussion (cont. in Pt.2)

Monkey Daniel · May 30, 2015

jackess said:
I hope we don't get Schulz because nobody can spell his name right.

Could just call him Sergeant !!

Maybe would we get him for him nuthing...nuthing !!

Football Pope · May 30, 2015

jackess said:
It's all about cost and availability though. I'd love Buddy and a 23 year old Wayne Carey but I don't think that will happen. Schulz if we get him will be cheap to trade but will be a valuable member of our team for at least 2-3 years.

Ok I'll ask why would Schulz want to leave his home State?...also he is starting to get his fair share of injuries

Football Pope · May 30, 2015

TheBrownDog said:
Yeah it feels like some people think last trade period was the norm not the exception.

We still aren't a destination club, and we can't look gift horses in the mouth.

Gift horse or Trojan horse...

Hollow Knight · May 30, 2015

Football Pope said:
Ok I'll ask why would Schulz want to leave his home State?...also he is starting to get his fair share of injuries

Port have cap issues.

Football Pope · May 30, 2015

TheBrownDog said:
Port have cap issues.

That's surprising.....not like their list gives that impression...

jackess · May 30, 2015

Football Pope said:
Ok I'll ask why would Schulz want to leave his home State?...also he is starting to get his fair share of injuries

He could get at least $200,000 per season worth of reasons.

Football Pope · May 30, 2015

jackess said:
He could get at least $200,000 per season worth of reasons.

IMO it would be better spent elsewhere...

jackess · May 30, 2015

Football Pope said:
IMO it would be better spent elsewhere...

Yes, but when we don't get any of Dixon, Rance, Hawkins, Henderson or Carlisle which is probably what will happen, what do we do then?

Football Pope · May 30, 2015

jackess said:
Yes, but when we don't get any of Dixon, Rance, Hawkins, Henderson or Carlisle which is probably what will happen, what do we do then?

Invest in Freeman, Close, Paine, Smith, Bourke, McStay & Hammelmann

jackess · May 30, 2015

Football Pope said:
Invest in Freeman, Close, Paine, Smith, Bourke, McStay & Hammelmann

Who? Are they Free Agents?

Football Pope · May 30, 2015

jackess said:
Who? Are they Free Agents?

In all seriousness we can go out and purchase the best free agent forward KPP's going around...IMO aint going to do us any good if supply to them isn't happening..For years, like many of us on here, I've watched us absolutely crucify Brownie one of the greatest CHF's..I'd rather we develop our own forwards and spend on improving the supply up the ground...

Nuggo · May 30, 2015

Spend it on the Buzz.

Elixuh · May 30, 2015

Football Pope said:
..I'd rather we develop our own forwards and spend on improving the supply up the ground...

Problem is that we've been trying to develop our tall forward stocks over the past 5 seasons and are in the same position now as we were back then - close to square one.

Football Pope · May 30, 2015

Elixuh said:
Problem is that we've been trying to develop our tall forward stocks over the past 5 seasons and are in the same position now as we were back then - close to square one.

Yep totally agree... The problem "trying to develop"... Yep they haven't come on... maybe we need to look why the development works at other clubs and is not working at ours and fix it..

Lace Out · May 30, 2015

Nuggo said:
Spend it on the Buzz.

Worth 5 pesos at this stage

Elixuh · May 30, 2015

Football Pope said:
Yep totally agree... The problem "trying to develop"... Yep they haven't come on... maybe we need to look why the development works at other clubs and is not working at ours and fix it..

If you consider the age of our core group of players then its quickly getting to a stage where acquiring and using more draft picks is unlikely to help. Its also quickly getting to the stage where progressing on faith, expectation and hope in the current players we have is fraught with danger.

If the rumours are true i'm glad we're going after or considering Shulz. Shows we have a contingency plan in place and are doing our due diligence. Not just putting all of our effort into one player which is make or break.

Nuggo · May 30, 2015

I could be wrong but if I was developing a team I would highly pay the best key position talent identifier a three year contract to stock the cupboard. I would then get of hold the best midfield talent identifier available. I am not sure if our team is structured in such a manner - as in having key identifiers for specific position in the team. Costly maybe but not sure if we have ever considered this approach.

Nuggo · May 30, 2015

Lace Out said:
Worth 5 pesos at this stage

Your killing my buzz man

Lace Out · May 30, 2015

Nuggo said:
Your killing my buzz man

I do love his name.Who knows what Swann would do with it.

Nuggo · May 30, 2015

A live buzz at every game?

scoman · May 30, 2015

Played footy with Schultz brother at Redlands 10 years ago. May have some family up here?

Football Pope · May 30, 2015

Elixuh said:
If you consider the age of our core group of players then its quickly getting to a stage where acquiring and using more draft picks is unlikely to help. Its also quickly getting to the stage where progressing on faith, expectation and hope in the current players we have is fraught with danger.

If the rumours are true i'm glad we're going after or considering Shulz. Shows we have a contingency plan in place and are doing our due diligence. Not just putting all of our effort into one player which is make or break.

It's a good point...Nothing wrong with due diligence if you honestly feel that Schulz fills that void, we will agree to disagree on that ...To be honest I have little faith in the development of our players and don't believe that a buy in of the caliber of Schulz will fix our forward problem more likely it will stay the same...If that's the case then I'd prefer to get the supply up the ground better...It is disappointing, we acknowledge that our development isn't working yet as a club we continue down the same path year after year...Nothing shits me more when we lose a player to another club, just as cash strapped as ours only to see them blossom at their new club...now that irks me something chronic...We are becoming another Carlton...a club that goes out and purchases talent in the hope of a quick fix...

Elixuh · May 30, 2015

Football Pope said:
...(i) and don't believe that a buy in of the caliber of Schulz will fix our forward problem more likely it will stay the same...(ii) If that's the case then I'd prefer to get the supply up the ground better...

(i) I wouldn't see the acquisition of Schulz as anything more than a temporary fix. Essentially buying time and hoping he'll help fast-track the development of some of our younger guys.

(ii) Problem with this is, you can have the supply but even some of the best will struggle if there isn't a functioning forward line. Conversely a good forward line can make sometimes shoddy supply look good.

SizeMatters · May 30, 2015

why would he come to us? how certain is that port are having salary cap problem... I seriously cant see how they could be... Port are closer to a possible GF than us and he is a key member.

Hollow Knight · May 30, 2015

SizeMatters said:
why would he come to us?

Any more fanciful than Beams or Christensen?

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